370Z TT to a Supra
 

I have been contemplating and heavily leaning towards a platform switch to the, yep you guessed it, the Supra.

I am kind of growing bored of my heavily modified TT Z. And aftermarket support is still so weak for a boosted Z here in Australia.

If I want to keep the Z and just build the motor and trans for more power, I have to import everything from the states, $$ tons of cash down the drain just for shipping and import fees.

There is no reputable VQ37 motor/trans builder down here who knows all the ins and outs of the motor like SOHO, Dynosty or IPT etc. I would have to goto a random builder down here and hope for the best. Whereas with a Supra, I would only need a decent bolt on and tune upgrade to hit the 10s down a quarter, so much more simple otherwise I would keep the Z and build it.

Anyways, before I do it.

Where are all the boosted Z guys who have raced a modded and tuned Supra? Please tell me your story, how much pwr/tq your Z makes, what boosted kit you used and how did go against the modded/tuned Supra. I have seen a few youtube vids of this, but there doesn't seem to be many. The result seems they are quiet even or the Supra wins mostly.

Please share your stories of runs against the Supra. Thanks.

Why don't you get an R32, R33, or R34 GTR since you are from down under?

I don't want an older JDM car.

Besides, those cars are pretty much way more expensive than a used Supra down here.

Ontop of that, there already plenty of them roaming around. I want to be more unique, hence Supra. Barely any of them down here.

I am literally still 1/1 only TT 370Z in my entire state.

Give me a month and I will tell you! Driven the Supra and it is an easy car to drive if you know what you are doing. It will hurt you if you don't because it is tail happy and has lots grunt or torque. I will be in a time trial class with one so I can post our times. Obviously since I don't get to drive both and my Z is heavily modified it will be an apples to oranges comparison, lol.

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Very much sounds like you should get a supra

Yep Supra all the way.

Dude, you have that much invested in your Z, sunk cost will be massive.

If you want an engine-builder, talk to Casey Engines in Melbourne. He has built multiple off-road VQ/HR engines that reliably make 700whp. Don;t think the Supra is going to be much different than your experience with your Z. There is plenty of expertise available.

PM me for contact details.

Yes it is true, I would lose a ton of money switching.

Truth be told, I am just getting bored of the Z. And the Supra with the Aimgain kit has really been growing on me.

I know it might sound like a stupid move, but I hear so many darn good things about the Supra platform that only increases my motivation.

I may contact your guy about the 700whp motor, but what do you mean off-road? It won't be street legal or engineerable for the streets?

Off road is just that, track car! You sound like so many young people, impatient and when the shine is off you are ready to move on. If you have the means to do so, move on and in a couple of years or so you will be at the same place. Good luck with whatever decision you make.

Own both.

He builds race engines that can be tuneable for the street. "Off-Road" is dirt buggy racing (look up the Finke desert race for vehicle style).

My "70's road MG - Historic reg plates" has a life-expired full race engine in it with a softer cam that has a massive grin-factor in it. I ran that car at Geelong Sprints and it was good for a 10.7 quarter (980kgs and 390hp).

I guess you need to think about how many pineapple-notes you are going to tear up with a degree of maturity - you will get back maybe 40 cents in the dollar on your Z - possibly as low as 25 cents in the dollars, because I'm guessing you've paid multiple times for some of your mods so think about how you will avoid doing the same thing with another platform. Your story is stored on the forum for any potential purchaser to see.

I am not saying don't do it - it is your money. What I am saying is think about what you are doing to avoid the same sense of disappointment and expense - go into it with your eyes open and happy that you will burn the dollars.

The supra is awesome. It looks like a lot of fun to build as a street car. I want one. But i'm not going to pay for one at it's current price premium. Also the locked ECU of the newer models is a major PITA. AND i'm still holding out hope for a manual.

Why would you get anything with the new Z right around the corner. That’ll be your next easily modified platform with a lot of aftermarket support I’m betting.

:iagree: Sage advise here. This is experience speaking as many of us have done and redone our Zs. I get the "compassion fatigue" as I call it and you are just done and think that if you do something different it will be better or different. Part of the trick is to remember why you got the Z in the first place and fall in love with that idea again. You state that your car is a 1 of 1 in your neck of the woods, well that is why many of us love and keep our Z. It is unique. Even if you go to a Z meet, most are one off and represent the owners personality. The one thing I can't get my head or heart around the Supra is that it lacks in that category for me. Sure, it checks a lot of boxes but at the price point I would buy a c6, c7 or c8 corvette all day long if I am going to jump on the everyone has one band wagon.

Congrats on already having made up your mind to get the Supra :tup: :driving:

Do what makes you happy. If you're bored with the Z then you're bored with the Z. I don't ever recall fiscal responsibility factoring into your decisions :icon17:

You always have to remember where you came from. That will help guide your direction of where you are going. I still love my Z. It's a pain in my arse sometimes but what modified car isn't.

I honestly wish I could afford both! Even if I get rid of my Z for the Supra, I can't get over how much of a great car and platform it is. It will be very deeply missed!

Well I am going for 50%. If I don't get 50% then the Z stays.
Can't be as low as 25%. That is lower than a current market value 2015 stock NA 370Z with double the kms my Z has. My 2015 Z is a full TT build with extensive supporting mods and fully engineered, regency approved, mod plated, has certificate of exemption, passed emissions etc Should definitely be worth more than a stock NA 2015 370Z.


Look I hate to say it, but the new Z front end really destroys it for me. It looks so gutless from the front end. It looks like some sort of scared bug staring at you. I really dislike it. But the side profile and rear end are sick for sure! I just wish the front end was even just a tiny bit more aggressive.

Ontop of that, I really can't see that VR30 platform going anywhere near what the B58 is already smashing. I mean, I would like to be wrong, but I highly doubt it. Where are all the current VR30 guys now? I never hear anyone say that platform is mental and smashing out great performance numbers Iike alot of people are saying the b58 does. I guess I will just have to wait and see, if the VR30 is better on the new Z and be proven wrong.

Yea I would get a c8 too. But remember I am in Australia, the C8 is more than 2x the price of the Supra here with all the governemnt BS luxury taxes added on.

Also, I am not jumping on the evryone has one band wagon, because the Supra is still pretty rare in my neck of the woods. If you think I am on some band wagon, then I would have got a mustang GT? You can see one of them on every 2nd street down here. Plenty of local support for them too, and from what I hear can also make loads of power and good performance numbers. But the mustang GT does nothing for me looks wise. It does not pull me in, in anyway. The supra on the other hand does, obviously you can tell by now.

Maybe to you and other enthusiasts. But to the average buyer those are all negative aspects that reduce the reliability of the vehicle. Most potential buyers will likely see a 2015 stock car with more miles as the better value :twocents:

Good luck with your next move whatever it winds up being :tup: :driving:

Have you considered a Porsche product? Perhaps a decent one in used market? (as opposed to cost of new Supra, If you have the money)

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I assume you've already paid this car off, it's not costing you much to keep it?
You're going to get half your money back when trying to sell such a modified car (probably less?)
Unless you're going to part out all the mods which requires a lot of effort.
I guess if you're really over it you should sell it to someone who will love it but.
Why not buy the supra and keep both for a little while, if you still never drive the Z sell it after a year or something.

Yeah, well as I said if I don't get back 50%, then the Z will stay. I still do love it!

I have not considered a Porsche, I would assume they are still way too expensive in Australia compared to a Supra.


Yes Z and all mods is fully payed off. No finance owing on it. Not planning a part out, I agree with you would be alot of effort.
And I mentioned before, I could not afford the Supra without selling the Z, otherwise I would 100% like to keep the Z and still get the Supra.

Nissan has already shown a much improved alternate front end that likely will become available. And there will definitely be aftermarket options too. A front bumper cover is a super easy part to swap.

No doubt the B58 will always outperform a VR30. If you are going down the path of ultimate HP, do you guys get Tesla cars in OZ? I mean, all this talk about BMW vs. Z....pfft a Tesla will obliterate both.

The VR30 currently doesn't get any love because it has been stuck a heavy luxury coupe with a mandatory 7AT. However, there are many many people making very impressive power with the VR30. I will tip my hat to the B58, but the VR30 is definitely in the fight. Again, both pale to a Tesla Plaid.

I think the BMW is a pretty decent car, especially if you want to make power. Can't go wrong. Personally, I can't/won't own another German car!

My buddy has a Supra that runs 9.8 on DRs(IIRC he's sub-600hp on E85). TBH, it makes sense to go Supra if you're wanting to go with an automatic transmission. I have a similar ZF in my Audi and that thing is the ****!

As stated before, not much built VR30s just because of the car they're in....maybe in a couple years after the release of the new Z you'll see/hear more about them. Hell, B58 didn't get as much attention until they put "Supra" on it. Not completely sure of the build but Devil-Z 300ZX runs a (stock-block?) VG30DETT with a TH400 and his car has run a best of 8.6 in the quarter mile(avg 9.1). I'd imagine the VR30 should be about as capable.

If you're just going outright power, a TT Corvette is pretty hard to beat. Not uncommon to see a C6 running 10s with just nitrous and tires.

The VR30 is limited due to the open deck design. Not even as good as the VQ37VHR due to lack of displacement.

It wouldn't be the first time an open-deck engine is capable of power. A closed deck can be added via resleeving. I believe the record for a stock-internal VR30 is right around 600hp; so not too far off from a larger turbocharged VQ35/37 and the B58(though I think the B58 will take gobs more torque). I'm a fan of larger engines but there's plenty of people running high boost on smaller engines with success. I'd keep the VQ37 over either engines but hey, to each their own.

I would pass on the VR30. I am not going through what I have been through with the VQ37VHR again. I would keep the older car. I am not a big fan of the new Z.

I would much rather have a B58 than a VR30 or even VQ37 personally. But a car is not it's engine. Supra has electric power steering (as does the new z) and no manual so 😢

Yea I saw that orange alternaye fromt Z, it does look tons better than the original version they are releasing imo.

But then it comes back to the 2nd point, the VR30 is not going to go near the B58 in terms of outrite potential and performance. Hence, why I am not really interested in the new Z.

In Australia, even the cheapest C6 is about 40K more than a used Supra. So definitely a no go there.