370Z TT to a Supra

shadow85 · 02-02-2022, 09:57 PM

I have been contemplating and heavily leaning towards a platform switch to the, yep you guessed it, the Supra.

I am kind of growing bored of my heavily modified TT Z. And aftermarket support is still so weak for a boosted Z here in Australia.

If I want to keep the Z and just build the motor and trans for more power, I have to import everything from the states, $$ tons of cash down the drain just for shipping and import fees.

There is no reputable VQ37 motor/trans builder down here who knows all the ins and outs of the motor like SOHO, Dynosty or IPT etc. I would have to goto a random builder down here and hope for the best. Whereas with a Supra, I would only need a decent bolt on and tune upgrade to hit the 10s down a quarter, so much more simple otherwise I would keep the Z and build it.

Anyways, before I do it.

Where are all the boosted Z guys who have raced a modded and tuned Supra? Please tell me your story, how much pwr/tq your Z makes, what boosted kit you used and how did go against the modded/tuned Supra. I have seen a few youtube vids of this, but there doesn't seem to be many. The result seems they are quiet even or the Supra wins mostly.

Please share your stories of runs against the Supra. Thanks.

Spooler · 02-02-2022, 10:16 PM

Why don't you get an R32, R33, or R34 GTR since you are from down under?

shadow85 · 02-02-2022, 10:44 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Spooler

Why don't you get an R32, R33, or R34 GTR since you are from down under?

I don't want an older JDM car.

Besides, those cars are pretty much way more expensive than a used Supra down here.

Ontop of that, there already plenty of them roaming around. I want to be more unique, hence Supra. Barely any of them down here.

I am literally still 1/1 only TT 370Z in my entire state.

Hotrodz · 02-02-2022, 10:46 PM

Give me a month and I will tell you! Driven the Supra and it is an easy car to drive if you know what you are doing. It will hurt you if you don't because it is tail happy and has lots grunt or torque. I will be in a time trial class with one so I can post our times. Obviously since I don't get to drive both and my Z is heavily modified it will be an apples to oranges comparison, lol.

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OptionZero · 02-02-2022, 11:06 PM

Very much sounds like you should get a supra

cv129 · 02-03-2022, 12:27 AM

Yep Supra all the way.

BGTV8 · 02-03-2022, 01:11 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by shadow85

I have been contemplating and heavily leaning towards a platform switch to the, yep you guessed it, the Supra.

I am kind of growing bored of my heavily modified TT Z. And aftermarket support is still so weak for a boosted Z here in Australia.

If I want to keep the Z and just build the motor and trans for more power, I have to import everything from the states, $$ tons of cash down the drain just for shipping and import fees.

There is no reputable VQ37 motor/trans builder down here who knows all the ins and outs of the motor like SOHO, Dynosty or IPT etc. I would have to goto a random builder down here and hope for the best. Whereas with a Supra, I would only need a decent bolt on and tune upgrade to hit the 10s down a quarter, so much more simple otherwise I would keep the Z and build it.

Anyways, before I do it.

Where are all the boosted Z guys who have raced a modded and tuned Supra? Please tell me your story, how much pwr/tq your Z makes, what boosted kit you used and how did go against the modded/tuned Supra. I have seen a few youtube vids of this, but there doesn't seem to be many. The result seems they are quiet even or the Supra wins mostly.

Please share your stories of runs against the Supra. Thanks.

Dude, you have that much invested in your Z, sunk cost will be massive.

If you want an engine-builder, talk to Casey Engines in Melbourne. He has built multiple off-road VQ/HR engines that reliably make 700whp. Don;t think the Supra is going to be much different than your experience with your Z. There is plenty of expertise available.

PM me for contact details.

shadow85 · 02-03-2022, 06:37 AM

Yes it is true, I would lose a ton of money switching.

Truth be told, I am just getting bored of the Z. And the Supra with the Aimgain kit has really been growing on me.

I know it might sound like a stupid move, but I hear so many darn good things about the Supra platform that only increases my motivation.

I may contact your guy about the 700whp motor, but what do you mean off-road? It won't be street legal or engineerable for the streets?

Hotrodz · 02-03-2022, 09:24 AM

Off road is just that, track car! You sound like so many young people, impatient and when the shine is off you are ready to move on. If you have the means to do so, move on and in a couple of years or so you will be at the same place. Good luck with whatever decision you make.

SeeThruHead · 02-03-2022, 11:06 AM

Own both.

BGTV8 · 02-03-2022, 03:41 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by shadow85

Yes it is true, I would lose a ton of money switching.

Truth be told, I am just getting bored of the Z. And the Supra with the Aimgain kit has really been growing on me.

I know it might sound like a stupid move, but I hear so many darn good things about the Supra platform that only increases my motivation.

I may contact your guy about the 700whp motor, but what do you mean off-road? It won't be street legal or engineerable for the streets?

He builds race engines that can be tuneable for the street. "Off-Road" is dirt buggy racing (look up the Finke desert race for vehicle style).

My "70's road MG - Historic reg plates" has a life-expired full race engine in it with a softer cam that has a massive grin-factor in it. I ran that car at Geelong Sprints and it was good for a 10.7 quarter (980kgs and 390hp).

I guess you need to think about how many pineapple-notes you are going to tear up with a degree of maturity - you will get back maybe 40 cents in the dollar on your Z - possibly as low as 25 cents in the dollars, because I'm guessing you've paid multiple times for some of your mods so think about how you will avoid doing the same thing with another platform. Your story is stored on the forum for any potential purchaser to see.

I am not saying don't do it - it is your money. What I am saying is think about what you are doing to avoid the same sense of disappointment and expense - go into it with your eyes open and happy that you will burn the dollars.

SeeThruHead · 02-03-2022, 04:10 PM

The supra is awesome. It looks like a lot of fun to build as a street car. I want one. But i'm not going to pay for one at it's current price premium. Also the locked ECU of the newer models is a major PITA. AND i'm still holding out hope for a manual.

Jhill · 02-03-2022, 05:31 PM

Why would you get anything with the new Z right around the corner. That’ll be your next easily modified platform with a lot of aftermarket support I’m betting.

Hotrodz · 02-03-2022, 06:14 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by BGTV8

He builds race engines that can be tuneable for the street. "Off-Road" is dirt buggy racing (look up the Finke desert race for vehicle style).

My "70's road MG - Historic reg plates" has a life-expired full race engine in it with a softer cam that has a massive grin-factor in it. I ran that car at Geelong Sprints and it was good for a 10.7 quarter (980kgs and 390hp).

I guess you need to think about how many pineapple-notes you are going to tear up with a degree of maturity - you will get back maybe 40 cents in the dollar on your Z - possibly as low as 25 cents in the dollars, because I'm guessing you've paid multiple times for some of your mods so think about how you will avoid doing the same thing with another platform. Your story is stored on the forum for any potential purchaser to see.

I am not saying don't do it - it is your money. What I am saying is think about what you are doing to avoid the same sense of disappointment and expense - go into it with your eyes open and happy that you will burn the dollars.

Sage advise here. This is experience speaking as many of us have done and redone our Zs. I get the "compassion fatigue" as I call it and you are just done and think that if you do something different it will be better or different. Part of the trick is to remember why you got the Z in the first place and fall in love with that idea again. You state that your car is a 1 of 1 in your neck of the woods, well that is why many of us love and keep our Z. It is unique. Even if you go to a Z meet, most are one off and represent the owners personality. The one thing I can't get my head or heart around the Supra is that it lacks in that category for me. Sure, it checks a lot of boxes but at the price point I would buy a c6, c7 or c8 corvette all day long if I am going to jump on the everyone has one band wagon.

JARblue · 02-03-2022, 06:18 PM

Congrats on already having made up your mind to get the Supra

Do what makes you happy. If you're bored with the Z then you're bored with the Z. I don't ever recall fiscal responsibility factoring into your decisions

02-02-2022, 09:57 PM	#1 (permalink)
shadow85 Track Member Join Date: Jul 2015 Location: South Australia, Austra Posts: 918 Drives: 15' 370Z A/T AMM TT Rep Power: 25	370Z TT to a Supra I have been contemplating and heavily leaning towards a platform switch to the, yep you guessed it, the Supra. I am kind of growing bored of my heavily modified TT Z. And aftermarket support is still so weak for a boosted Z here in Australia. If I want to keep the Z and just build the motor and trans for more power, I have to import everything from the states, $$ tons of cash down the drain just for shipping and import fees. There is no reputable VQ37 motor/trans builder down here who knows all the ins and outs of the motor like SOHO, Dynosty or IPT etc. I would have to goto a random builder down here and hope for the best. Whereas with a Supra, I would only need a decent bolt on and tune upgrade to hit the 10s down a quarter, so much more simple otherwise I would keep the Z and build it. Anyways, before I do it. Where are all the boosted Z guys who have raced a modded and tuned Supra? Please tell me your story, how much pwr/tq your Z makes, what boosted kit you used and how did go against the modded/tuned Supra. I have seen a few youtube vids of this, but there doesn't seem to be many. The result seems they are quiet even or the Supra wins mostly. Please share your stories of runs against the Supra. Thanks.

02-02-2022, 10:16 PM	#2 (permalink)
Spooler A True Z Fanatic Join Date: Jun 2014 Location: Ga Posts: 13,834 Drives: 2013 Nismo 370z Rep Power: 2684392	Why don't you get an R32, R33, or R34 GTR since you are from down under? JARblue and Hotrodz like this.

02-02-2022, 10:46 PM	#4 (permalink)
Hotrodz A True Z Fanatic Join Date: Aug 2012 Location: NW, AZ Posts: 9,330 Drives: 10 Nissan 370z Nismo Rep Power: 2684385	Give me a month and I will tell you! Driven the Supra and it is an easy car to drive if you know what you are doing. It will hurt you if you don't because it is tail happy and has lots grunt or torque. I will be in a time trial class with one so I can post our times. Obviously since I don't get to drive both and my Z is heavily modified it will be an apples to oranges comparison, lol. Sent from my SM-G965U using Tapatalk JARblue, danegrey, Spooler and 2 others like this. __________________ *Fast Intentions TT Installed and Tuned by Seb at SpecialtyZ 610whp 560tq:\|Fast Intentions 3" TT-TDX*\|SpecialtyZ/Fast Intentions 72 Row Oil Cooler\|SZ 6 Puck Clutch & Flywheel\|3GsCustoms\|Z1\|Wavetrac\|Hotchkis\|Whiteline \|Blitz\|Fortune Auto 500\|Fujimura\|SPL\|H&R\|TK\|TWM\|RPM Rollbar\|Sparco\|Next Level Performance\|TrackSpec\|AeroFlow Dynamics\|Pioneer\|

02-02-2022, 11:06 PM	#5 (permalink)
OptionZero A True Z Fanatic Join Date: Apr 2011 Location: Sacramento Posts: 3,235 Drives: 15 370Z Nismo 6MT Rep Power: 214100	Very much sounds like you should get a supra JARblue, Hotrodz, Memphis370Z and 1 others like this. __________________ OptionZero Build Thread

02-03-2022, 12:27 AM	#6 (permalink)
cv129 A True Z Fanatic Join Date: Jul 2011 Location: Dallas, TX Posts: 3,237 Drives: 09 Nismo, 16 Nismo Rep Power: 163995	Yep Supra all the way. JARblue, Memphis370Z and shadow85 like this. __________________ Setrab \| RE-71 \| SPL \| JRZ \| Nismo \| ARK \| Whiteline \| RacingBrake \| CJM Oil Pan \| Ti shield

02-03-2022, 06:37 AM	#8 (permalink)
shadow85 Track Member Join Date: Jul 2015 Location: South Australia, Austra Posts: 918 Drives: 15' 370Z A/T AMM TT Rep Power: 25	Yes it is true, I would lose a ton of money switching. Truth be told, I am just getting bored of the Z. And the Supra with the Aimgain kit has really been growing on me. I know it might sound like a stupid move, but I hear so many darn good things about the Supra platform that only increases my motivation. I may contact your guy about the 700whp motor, but what do you mean off-road? It won't be street legal or engineerable for the streets?

02-03-2022, 09:24 AM	#9 (permalink)
Hotrodz A True Z Fanatic Join Date: Aug 2012 Location: NW, AZ Posts: 9,330 Drives: 10 Nissan 370z Nismo Rep Power: 2684385	Off road is just that, track car! You sound like so many young people, impatient and when the shine is off you are ready to move on. If you have the means to do so, move on and in a couple of years or so you will be at the same place. Good luck with whatever decision you make. BGTV8, JARblue, Elmo370z and 4 others like this. __________________ *Fast Intentions TT Installed and Tuned by Seb at SpecialtyZ 610whp 560tq:\|Fast Intentions 3" TT-TDX*\|SpecialtyZ/Fast Intentions 72 Row Oil Cooler\|SZ 6 Puck Clutch & Flywheel\|3GsCustoms\|Z1\|Wavetrac\|Hotchkis\|Whiteline \|Blitz\|Fortune Auto 500\|Fujimura\|SPL\|H&R\|TK\|TWM\|RPM Rollbar\|Sparco\|Next Level Performance\|TrackSpec\|AeroFlow Dynamics\|Pioneer\|

02-03-2022, 11:06 AM	#10 (permalink)
SeeThruHead Track Member Join Date: Jun 2020 Location: Toronto Posts: 716 Drives: Red '18 Sport Manual Rep Power: 23498	Own both. phunk, EZT, xxAGAVExx and 2 others like this. __________________ My Build thread STH Build Plan Thread Images too big fix here

02-03-2022, 04:10 PM	#12 (permalink)
SeeThruHead Track Member Join Date: Jun 2020 Location: Toronto Posts: 716 Drives: Red '18 Sport Manual Rep Power: 23498	The supra is awesome. It looks like a lot of fun to build as a street car. I want one. But i'm not going to pay for one at it's current price premium. Also the locked ECU of the newer models is a major PITA. AND i'm still holding out hope for a manual. __________________ My Build thread STH Build Plan Thread Images too big fix here

02-03-2022, 05:31 PM	#13 (permalink)
Jhill Track Member Join Date: Mar 2016 Location: San jose Posts: 854 Drives: 2013 370z sport Rep Power: 3384	Why would you get anything with the new Z right around the corner. That’ll be your next easily modified platform with a lot of aftermarket support I’m betting. Optimiser and Falconquey like this.

02-03-2022, 06:18 PM	#15 (permalink)
JARblue A True Z Fanatic Join Date: Mar 2011 Location: Austin, TX Age: 43 Posts: 36,450 Drives: 11 Z34, 98 E36 M3 Rep Power: 2684440	Congrats on already having made up your mind to get the Supra Do what makes you happy. If you're bored with the Z then you're bored with the Z. I don't ever recall fiscal responsibility factoring into your decisions cv129, danegrey, Hotrodz and 3 others like this. __________________ 2011 370Z 6MT Sport Gun Metallic \| ARC \| CJM \| Ecutek \| FI \| Fujimura \| R2C \| SPL \| Stillen \| TWM \| Z1 \| ZSpeed \|

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