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Spooler 02-03-2022 05:24 PM

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Originally Posted by Hotrodz (Post 4019406)
:iagree: Sage advise here. This is experience speaking as many of us have done and redone our Zs. I get the "compassion fatigue" as I call it and you are just done and think that if you do something different it will be better or different. Part of the trick is to remember why you got the Z in the first place and fall in love with that idea again. You state that your car is a 1 of 1 in your neck of the woods, well that is why many of us love and keep our Z. It is unique. Even if you go to a Z meet, most are one off and represent the owners personality. The one thing I can't get my head or heart around the Supra is that it lacks in that category for me. Sure, it checks a lot of boxes but at the price point I would buy a c6, c7 or c8 corvette all day long if I am going to jump on the everyone has one band wagon.

You always have to remember where you came from. That will help guide your direction of where you are going. I still love my Z. It's a pain in my arse sometimes but what modified car isn't.

shadow85 02-05-2022 08:30 AM

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Originally Posted by SeeThruHead (Post 4019370)
Own both.

I honestly wish I could afford both! Even if I get rid of my Z for the Supra, I can't get over how much of a great car and platform it is. It will be very deeply missed!

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Originally Posted by BGTV8 (Post 4019390)

I guess you need to think about how many pineapple-notes you are going to tear up with a degree of maturity - you will get back maybe 40 cents in the dollar on your Z - possibly as low as 25 cents in the dollars, because I'm guessing you've paid multiple times for some of your mods so think about how you will avoid doing the same thing with another platform.

Well I am going for 50%. If I don't get 50% then the Z stays.
Can't be as low as 25%. That is lower than a current market value 2015 stock NA 370Z with double the kms my Z has. My 2015 Z is a full TT build with extensive supporting mods and fully engineered, regency approved, mod plated, has certificate of exemption, passed emissions etc Should definitely be worth more than a stock NA 2015 370Z.


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Originally Posted by Jhill (Post 4019401)
Why would you get anything with the new Z right around the corner. That’ll be your next easily modified platform with a lot of aftermarket support I’m betting.

Look I hate to say it, but the new Z front end really destroys it for me. It looks so gutless from the front end. It looks like some sort of scared bug staring at you. I really dislike it. But the side profile and rear end are sick for sure! I just wish the front end was even just a tiny bit more aggressive.

Ontop of that, I really can't see that VR30 platform going anywhere near what the B58 is already smashing. I mean, I would like to be wrong, but I highly doubt it. Where are all the current VR30 guys now? I never hear anyone say that platform is mental and smashing out great performance numbers Iike alot of people are saying the b58 does. I guess I will just have to wait and see, if the VR30 is better on the new Z and be proven wrong.

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Originally Posted by Hotrodz (Post 4019406)
The one thing I can't get my head or heart around the Supra is that it lacks in that category for me. Sure, it checks a lot of boxes but at the price point I would buy a c6, c7 or c8 corvette all day long if I am going to jump on the everyone has one band wagon.

Yea I would get a c8 too. But remember I am in Australia, the C8 is more than 2x the price of the Supra here with all the governemnt BS luxury taxes added on.

Also, I am not jumping on the evryone has one band wagon, because the Supra is still pretty rare in my neck of the woods. If you think I am on some band wagon, then I would have got a mustang GT? You can see one of them on every 2nd street down here. Plenty of local support for them too, and from what I hear can also make loads of power and good performance numbers. But the mustang GT does nothing for me looks wise. It does not pull me in, in anyway. The supra on the other hand does, obviously you can tell by now.

JARblue 02-05-2022 09:59 AM

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Originally Posted by shadow85 (Post 4019522)
My 2015 Z is a full TT build with extensive supporting mods and fully engineered, regency approved, mod plated, has certificate of exemption, passed emissions etc Should definitely be worth more than a stock NA 2015 370Z.

Maybe to you and other enthusiasts. But to the average buyer those are all negative aspects that reduce the reliability of the vehicle. Most potential buyers will likely see a 2015 stock car with more miles as the better value :twocents:

Good luck with your next move whatever it winds up being :tup: :driving:

ZoomZ 02-05-2022 10:47 AM

Have you considered a Porsche product? Perhaps a decent one in used market? (as opposed to cost of new Supra, If you have the money)

zz

SeeThruHead 02-05-2022 01:45 PM

I assume you've already paid this car off, it's not costing you much to keep it?
You're going to get half your money back when trying to sell such a modified car (probably less?)
Unless you're going to part out all the mods which requires a lot of effort.
I guess if you're really over it you should sell it to someone who will love it but.
Why not buy the supra and keep both for a little while, if you still never drive the Z sell it after a year or something.

shadow85 02-05-2022 03:53 PM

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Originally Posted by JARblue (Post 4019528)
Maybe to you and other enthusiasts. But to the average buyer those are all negative aspects that reduce the reliability of the vehicle. Most potential buyers will likely see a 2015 stock car with more miles as the better value :twocents:

Good luck with your next move whatever it winds up being :tup: :driving:

Yeah, well as I said if I don't get back 50%, then the Z will stay. I still do love it!

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Originally Posted by ZoomZ (Post 4019532)
Have you considered a Porsche product? Perhaps a decent one in used market? (as opposed to cost of new Supra, If you have the money)

zz

I have not considered a Porsche, I would assume they are still way too expensive in Australia compared to a Supra.


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Originally Posted by SeeThruHead (Post 4019539)
I assume you've already paid this car off, it's not costing you much to keep it?
You're going to get half your money back when trying to sell such a modified car (probably less?)
Unless you're going to part out all the mods which requires a lot of effort.
I guess if you're really over it you should sell it to someone who will love it but.
Why not buy the supra and keep both for a little while, if you still never drive the Z sell it after a year or something.

Yes Z and all mods is fully payed off. No finance owing on it. Not planning a part out, I agree with you would be alot of effort.
And I mentioned before, I could not afford the Supra without selling the Z, otherwise I would 100% like to keep the Z and still get the Supra.

takemorepills 02-05-2022 08:58 PM

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Originally Posted by shadow85 (Post 4019522)



Look I hate to say it, but the new Z front end really destroys it for me. It looks so gutless from the front end. It looks like some sort of scared bug staring at you. I really dislike it. But the side profile and rear end are sick for sure! I just wish the front end was even just a tiny bit more aggressive.

Ontop of that, I really can't see that VR30 platform going anywhere near what the B58 is already smashing. I mean, I would like to be wrong, but I highly doubt it. Where are all the current VR30 guys now? I never hear anyone say that platform is mental and smashing out great performance numbers Iike alot of people are saying the b58 does. I guess I will just have to wait and see, if the VR30 is better on the new Z and be proven wrong.

Nissan has already shown a much improved alternate front end that likely will become available. And there will definitely be aftermarket options too. A front bumper cover is a super easy part to swap.

No doubt the B58 will always outperform a VR30. If you are going down the path of ultimate HP, do you guys get Tesla cars in OZ? I mean, all this talk about BMW vs. Z....pfft a Tesla will obliterate both.

The VR30 currently doesn't get any love because it has been stuck a heavy luxury coupe with a mandatory 7AT. However, there are many many people making very impressive power with the VR30. I will tip my hat to the B58, but the VR30 is definitely in the fight. Again, both pale to a Tesla Plaid.

I think the BMW is a pretty decent car, especially if you want to make power. Can't go wrong. Personally, I can't/won't own another German car!

K2e2vin 02-05-2022 11:19 PM

My buddy has a Supra that runs 9.8 on DRs(IIRC he's sub-600hp on E85). TBH, it makes sense to go Supra if you're wanting to go with an automatic transmission. I have a similar ZF in my Audi and that thing is the ****!

As stated before, not much built VR30s just because of the car they're in....maybe in a couple years after the release of the new Z you'll see/hear more about them. Hell, B58 didn't get as much attention until they put "Supra" on it. Not completely sure of the build but Devil-Z 300ZX runs a (stock-block?) VG30DETT with a TH400 and his car has run a best of 8.6 in the quarter mile(avg 9.1). I'd imagine the VR30 should be about as capable.

If you're just going outright power, a TT Corvette is pretty hard to beat. Not uncommon to see a C6 running 10s with just nitrous and tires.

Spooler 02-06-2022 12:05 AM

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Originally Posted by K2e2vin (Post 4019553)
My buddy has a Supra that runs 9.8 on DRs(IIRC he's sub-600hp on E85). TBH, it makes sense to go Supra if you're wanting to go with an automatic transmission. I have a similar ZF in my Audi and that thing is the ****!

As stated before, not much built VR30s just because of the car they're in....maybe in a couple years after the release of the new Z you'll see/hear more about them. Hell, B58 didn't get as much attention until they put "Supra" on it. Not completely sure of the build but Devil-Z 300ZX runs a (stock-block?) VG30DETT with a TH400 and his car has run a best of 8.6 in the quarter mile(avg 9.1). I'd imagine the VR30 should be about as capable.

If you're just going outright power, a TT Corvette is pretty hard to beat. Not uncommon to see a C6 running 10s with just nitrous and tires.

The VR30 is limited due to the open deck design. Not even as good as the VQ37VHR due to lack of displacement.

K2e2vin 02-06-2022 03:45 AM

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Originally Posted by Spooler (Post 4019555)
The VR30 is limited due to the open deck design. Not even as good as the VQ37VHR due to lack of displacement.

It wouldn't be the first time an open-deck engine is capable of power. A closed deck can be added via resleeving. I believe the record for a stock-internal VR30 is right around 600hp; so not too far off from a larger turbocharged VQ35/37 and the B58(though I think the B58 will take gobs more torque). I'm a fan of larger engines but there's plenty of people running high boost on smaller engines with success. I'd keep the VQ37 over either engines but hey, to each their own.

Spooler 02-06-2022 11:13 AM

I would pass on the VR30. I am not going through what I have been through with the VQ37VHR again. I would keep the older car. I am not a big fan of the new Z.

SeeThruHead 02-06-2022 12:27 PM

I would much rather have a B58 than a VR30 or even VQ37 personally. But a car is not it's engine. Supra has electric power steering (as does the new z) and no manual so 😢

shadow85 02-06-2022 06:59 PM

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Originally Posted by takemorepills (Post 4019549)
Nissan has already shown a much improved alternate front end that likely will become available. And there will definitely be aftermarket options too. A front bumper cover is a super easy part to swap.

Yea I saw that orange alternaye fromt Z, it does look tons better than the original version they are releasing imo.

But then it comes back to the 2nd point, the VR30 is not going to go near the B58 in terms of outrite potential and performance. Hence, why I am not really interested in the new Z.

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Originally Posted by K2e2vin (Post 4019553)
If you're just going outright power, a TT Corvette is pretty hard to beat. Not uncommon to see a C6 running 10s with just nitrous and tires.

In Australia, even the cheapest C6 is about 40K more than a used Supra. So definitely a no go there.


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