Need advice for 370z mainly track

Elmo370z · 11-30-2021, 06:08 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by DarkJak

Would stay away from forced induction as a track build unless the previous owner was a track rat who would've went through the GRUELING iterative work of making an FI'd car work out at the track.
Heat in all systems (coolant, oil, brakes, diff) get pushed past stable operating limits on an NA car driven hard at the track without proper mods, and 1.5-2x'ing the power makes it that much tougher.

For a track car, the 2015 is by far the best starting point of the ones posted.

LSD, solid bushings and good suspension parts, front bar, lightweight 18 inch wheels.
It's not too far away from being a solid track build.

I can’t agree with this anymore, unless that individual is willing to spend twice as much to keep things cool.

Jhill · 11-30-2021, 07:48 PM

As with others are saying I’d stay away from the boost for a first. I think one of the great things of the 370z is how easy it is to make track ready, this can’t be said with a lot of newer cars. Some simple improvements will last you a long time of tracking until you get good enough to require the more power. So many boosted cars at the track really only have the higher power for a few laps and then they start having heat soak and more and more reduced power. It’ll be interesting to see if the next Z will be as readily track able.

ytian9 · 11-30-2021, 11:05 PM

Actually I own a used car dealership, and my partner used to work at mechanic shop. He know a lot about cars. So for any some issues, we can figure it out by ourselves. This is just a toy car for myself, I mean I will drive this in the summer and some track days whenever I have time. That's why I said I can remove all the mods from 2015.
If the heat is the only problem for FIs, we can figure it out, even I have a plan to install a 72 row oil cooler on whatever car I am going to keep. I am processing to purchase the 2015 one.

ytian9 · 11-30-2021, 11:09 PM

The 09 has 45k miles
2015 has 67k miles
2011 nismo has 56k miles
Their price are almost the same around 21k

ytian9 · 12-01-2021, 12:26 AM

My original plan was bring 2015 back to stock.
Put all the mods parts on 09 or 11 nismo, then work on cooling mods. Then do what phunk said " getting the car to a serious tuning shop who has real track car experience to have the power set as conservatively as the wastegates allow, and to have the car inspected both mechanically and its tuning to make sure you have the best shot of making it through a day at the track."
If they can make it 3 safe maps - high power , middle power, lower power. These will be my 3 stages - beginner as lower whp, then intermediate level as middle whp.
After all your suggestions, I don't know if I should do this or just keeping the 2015.

OptionZero · 12-01-2021, 02:23 AM

Why are you ******* with parts swapping
We havr already warned you of the dangers if buying a USED car with forced induction. This isnt a turbo car stock, you have no idea if the work was done properly; hell, you never really know whats been done

Buy the car closest to stock and get the mods you specifically need

Moreover you have been told that track experience is WAY more important than power at your current level

All of this sounds like jumped in and lit a buncha on fire bc you didnt do any research.

Chuck33079 · 12-01-2021, 06:47 AM

Your plan to shuffle parts around sucks. Stop making bad plans.

So all of these cars were dumped at a used car dealership? They're all completely ******. You don't trade in a boosted Z at a used car lot unless it's completely beat.

But, you've been told a dozen times here what you should do. There's really no point in continuing this thread. Go make your mistake and learn from it.

ytian9 · 12-01-2021, 08:27 AM

None of any at used car dealership.
I am here for suggestion, and I will listen.
09 will be selling for sure.
And i am during the process of buying 2015.
I will keep the 2015 one.
Will NOT TOUCH 11 nismo.
Thanks again

Whjaxn17 · 12-01-2021, 09:33 AM

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Originally Posted by Chuck33079

Let me guess, you're a "drop it off at the shop and write a check" kinda guy?

You sure did bitch about having to work on your car or it being down a lot to have that kind of holier than thou attitude

SteveVQ · 12-01-2021, 01:01 PM

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Originally Posted by Elmo370z

I’d put Rs enthrapy ahead of jon

Should also add to the list, Harry Sandhu who owns ZTuner in Bradenton, FL. He's a friend of Martin from RS-Enthalpy as well.

OptionZero · 12-01-2021, 01:09 PM

Why are you guys recommending him Florida shops?

His location is Toronto

For a major metropolitan area like that, surely there are local clubs that can help him get track time with instruction and various tuning outlets that can set up his suspension or, down the line, turbo his car properly

SteveVQ · 12-01-2021, 01:20 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by OptionZero

Why are you guys recommending him Florida shops?

His location is Toronto

For a major metropolitan area like that, surely there are local clubs that can help him get track time with instruction and various tuning outlets that can set up his suspension or, down the line, turbo his car properly

Not so much the shop locations being recommended, more so the tuner themselves, who can e-tune of course.

Chuck33079 · 12-01-2021, 01:39 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Whjaxn17

You sure did bitch about having to work on your car or it being down a lot to have that kind of holier than thou attitude

What holier than thou attitude? I’m trying to keep the op from opening a huge can of worms if he has to pay labor for every little thing. You feel differently. Ok, great. Some dude on the internet disagrees. Cool.

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Whjaxn17 · 12-01-2021, 01:50 PM

Having the car looked over by a trusted shop and remedy any (hopefully minor) issues before you take it out and start beating on it would be an idea, assuming due diligence is done on the front end and you don't buy a clapped out junker.

Outsourcing labor is obviously more expensive, but your Sunday afternoon schedule will be clear and grease, road grime, and frustration free.

Hotrodz · 12-01-2021, 06:02 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Jhill

As with others are saying I’d stay away from the boost for a first. I think one of the great things of the 370z is how easy it is to make track ready, this can’t be said with a lot of newer cars. Some simple improvements will last you a long time of tracking until you get good enough to require the more power. So many boosted cars at the track really only have the higher power for a few laps and then they start having heat soak and more and more reduced power. It’ll be interesting to see if the next Z will be as readily track able.

The new Z has over heating issues they are trying to work out!

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11-30-2021, 07:48 PM	#32 (permalink)
Jhill Track Member Join Date: Mar 2016 Location: San jose Posts: 854 Drives: 2013 370z sport Rep Power: 3384	As with others are saying I’d stay away from the boost for a first. I think one of the great things of the 370z is how easy it is to make track ready, this can’t be said with a lot of newer cars. Some simple improvements will last you a long time of tracking until you get good enough to require the more power. So many boosted cars at the track really only have the higher power for a few laps and then they start having heat soak and more and more reduced power. It’ll be interesting to see if the next Z will be as readily track able. Rusty and Hotrodz like this.

12-01-2021, 02:23 AM	#36 (permalink)
OptionZero A True Z Fanatic Join Date: Apr 2011 Location: Sacramento Posts: 3,231 Drives: 15 370Z Nismo 6MT Rep Power: 214100	Why are you ******* with parts swapping We havr already warned you of the dangers if buying a USED car with forced induction. This isnt a turbo car stock, you have no idea if the work was done properly; hell, you never really know whats been done Buy the car closest to stock and get the mods you specifically need Moreover you have been told that track experience is WAY more important than power at your current level All of this sounds like jumped in and lit a buncha on fire bc you didnt do any research. JARblue and Chuck33079 like this. __________________ OptionZero Build Thread

12-01-2021, 06:47 AM	#37 (permalink)
Chuck33079 A True Z Fanatic Join Date: Nov 2011 Location: Houston Posts: 12,265 Drives: 2011 370ztt Rep Power: 29539	Your plan to shuffle parts around sucks. Stop making bad plans. So all of these cars were dumped at a used car dealership? They're all completely ******. You don't trade in a boosted Z at a used car lot unless it's completely beat. But, you've been told a dozen times here what you should do. There's really no point in continuing this thread. Go make your mistake and learn from it. 2011 Nismo#91, JARblue, Rusty and 2 others like this. __________________ 2011 MB Touring-Sport-6sp-Nav/GTM TT/FI TT TDX/JTran/Kosmic/Eibach/Hotchkis/SPC/CSF/RPS/SoThatsWhereAllMyMoneyWent

12-01-2021, 08:27 AM	#38 (permalink)
ytian9 Base Member Join Date: Nov 2021 Location: Toronto Posts: 13 Drives: 09 Nissan 370Z Back Rep Power: 4	None of any at used car dealership. I am here for suggestion, and I will listen. 09 will be selling for sure. And i am during the process of buying 2015. I will keep the 2015 one. Will NOT TOUCH 11 nismo. Thanks again Last edited by ytian9; 12-01-2021 at 09:16 AM.

12-01-2021, 01:09 PM	#41 (permalink)
OptionZero A True Z Fanatic Join Date: Apr 2011 Location: Sacramento Posts: 3,231 Drives: 15 370Z Nismo 6MT Rep Power: 214100	Why are you guys recommending him Florida shops? His location is Toronto For a major metropolitan area like that, surely there are local clubs that can help him get track time with instruction and various tuning outlets that can set up his suspension or, down the line, turbo his car properly __________________ OptionZero Build Thread

11-30-2021, 11:05 PM	#33 (permalink)
ytian9 Base Member Join Date: Nov 2021 Location: Toronto Posts: 13 Drives: 09 Nissan 370Z Back Rep Power: 4	Actually I own a used car dealership, and my partner used to work at mechanic shop. He know a lot about cars. So for any some issues, we can figure it out by ourselves. This is just a toy car for myself, I mean I will drive this in the summer and some track days whenever I have time. That's why I said I can remove all the mods from 2015. If the heat is the only problem for FIs, we can figure it out, even I have a plan to install a 72 row oil cooler on whatever car I am going to keep. I am processing to purchase the 2015 one.

11-30-2021, 11:09 PM	#34 (permalink)
ytian9 Base Member Join Date: Nov 2021 Location: Toronto Posts: 13 Drives: 09 Nissan 370Z Back Rep Power: 4	The 09 has 45k miles 2015 has 67k miles 2011 nismo has 56k miles Their price are almost the same around 21k

12-01-2021, 12:26 AM	#35 (permalink)
ytian9 Base Member Join Date: Nov 2021 Location: Toronto Posts: 13 Drives: 09 Nissan 370Z Back Rep Power: 4	My original plan was bring 2015 back to stock. Put all the mods parts on 09 or 11 nismo, then work on cooling mods. Then do what phunk said " getting the car to a serious tuning shop who has real track car experience to have the power set as conservatively as the wastegates allow, and to have the car inspected both mechanically and its tuning to make sure you have the best shot of making it through a day at the track." If they can make it 3 safe maps - high power , middle power, lower power. These will be my 3 stages - beginner as lower whp, then intermediate level as middle whp. After all your suggestions, I don't know if I should do this or just keeping the 2015.

12-01-2021, 01:50 PM	#44 (permalink)
Whjaxn17 Enthusiast Member Join Date: Sep 2015 Location: Alabama Age: 29 Posts: 420 Drives: 17 370Z 6MT Rep Power: 3365	Having the car looked over by a trusted shop and remedy any (hopefully minor) issues before you take it out and start beating on it would be an idea, assuming due diligence is done on the front end and you don't buy a clapped out junker. Outsourcing labor is obviously more expensive, but your Sunday afternoon schedule will be clear and grease, road grime, and frustration free. Optimiser likes this. __________________ 377whp/299wtq NA 704whp/519wtq, SOHO stage 2.5 IG: pearlywhite.z

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