Need advice for 370z mainly track

Chuck33079 · 11-30-2021, 12:22 PM

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Originally Posted by Rusty

You guys missed this part. Admin tuning.

I' would run from this. It's a ticking bomb waiting to go off.

Admin tuning doesn't have a rep on this forum. Most of his tunes are copy and paste.

I'll put up $10 why that car is for sale now that I see Moncef "tuned" it.

Spooler · 11-30-2021, 07:58 AM

We had one guy who tried to track an A2A supercharged car. Let's just say it didn't work out for him. It was ugly.

ytian9 · 11-30-2021, 01:03 PM

thanks .
Looks like n/a fits me better. I will run away from this nismo. I did some research, though the Stella is a ticking bomb not soho. I guess it's all about admin tuning.

I am listening guys. Good thing is I went here before purchase.

I will keep you updated.

thanks again.

Rusty · 11-30-2021, 01:23 PM

Anything tuned by Admin tuning. I would stay away from. The good tuners are Sep, Vince at RT Tuning, SOHO, and Jon at Z1.

JARblue · 11-30-2021, 01:55 PM

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Originally Posted by Rusty

Anything tuned by Admin tuning. I would stay away from. The good tuners are Sep, Vince at RT Tuning, SOHO, and Jon at Z1.

I would add Eugene with EAC to the good tuner list

Rusty · 11-30-2021, 02:06 PM

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Originally Posted by JARblue

I would add Eugene with EAC to the good tuner list

I keep forgetting about him since he is somewhat new to the forum.

Elmo370z · 11-30-2021, 03:21 PM

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Originally Posted by JARblue

I would add Eugene with EAC to the good tuner list

I’d put Rs enthrapy ahead of jon

SteveVQ · 12-01-2021, 12:01 PM

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Originally Posted by Elmo370z

I’d put Rs enthrapy ahead of jon

Should also add to the list, Harry Sandhu who owns ZTuner in Bradenton, FL. He's a friend of Martin from RS-Enthalpy as well.

DarkJak · 11-30-2021, 03:40 PM

Would stay away from forced induction as a track build unless the previous owner was a track rat who would've went through the GRUELING iterative work of making an FI'd car work out at the track.
Heat in all systems (coolant, oil, brakes, diff) get pushed past stable operating limits on an NA car driven hard at the track without proper mods, and 1.5-2x'ing the power makes it that much tougher.

For a track car, the 2015 is by far the best starting point of the ones posted.

LSD, solid bushings and good suspension parts, front bar, lightweight 18 inch wheels.
It's not too far away from being a solid track build.

Elmo370z · 11-30-2021, 05:08 PM

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Originally Posted by DarkJak

Would stay away from forced induction as a track build unless the previous owner was a track rat who would've went through the GRUELING iterative work of making an FI'd car work out at the track.
Heat in all systems (coolant, oil, brakes, diff) get pushed past stable operating limits on an NA car driven hard at the track without proper mods, and 1.5-2x'ing the power makes it that much tougher.

For a track car, the 2015 is by far the best starting point of the ones posted.

LSD, solid bushings and good suspension parts, front bar, lightweight 18 inch wheels.
It's not too far away from being a solid track build.

I can’t agree with this anymore, unless that individual is willing to spend twice as much to keep things cool.

Jhill · 11-30-2021, 06:48 PM

As with others are saying I’d stay away from the boost for a first. I think one of the great things of the 370z is how easy it is to make track ready, this can’t be said with a lot of newer cars. Some simple improvements will last you a long time of tracking until you get good enough to require the more power. So many boosted cars at the track really only have the higher power for a few laps and then they start having heat soak and more and more reduced power. It’ll be interesting to see if the next Z will be as readily track able.

Hotrodz · 12-01-2021, 05:02 PM

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Originally Posted by Jhill

As with others are saying I’d stay away from the boost for a first. I think one of the great things of the 370z is how easy it is to make track ready, this can’t be said with a lot of newer cars. Some simple improvements will last you a long time of tracking until you get good enough to require the more power. So many boosted cars at the track really only have the higher power for a few laps and then they start having heat soak and more and more reduced power. It’ll be interesting to see if the next Z will be as readily track able.

The new Z has over heating issues they are trying to work out!

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ytian9 · 11-30-2021, 10:05 PM

Actually I own a used car dealership, and my partner used to work at mechanic shop. He know a lot about cars. So for any some issues, we can figure it out by ourselves. This is just a toy car for myself, I mean I will drive this in the summer and some track days whenever I have time. That's why I said I can remove all the mods from 2015.
If the heat is the only problem for FIs, we can figure it out, even I have a plan to install a 72 row oil cooler on whatever car I am going to keep. I am processing to purchase the 2015 one.

ytian9 · 11-30-2021, 10:09 PM

The 09 has 45k miles
2015 has 67k miles
2011 nismo has 56k miles
Their price are almost the same around 21k

ytian9 · 11-30-2021, 11:26 PM

My original plan was bring 2015 back to stock.
Put all the mods parts on 09 or 11 nismo, then work on cooling mods. Then do what phunk said " getting the car to a serious tuning shop who has real track car experience to have the power set as conservatively as the wastegates allow, and to have the car inspected both mechanically and its tuning to make sure you have the best shot of making it through a day at the track."
If they can make it 3 safe maps - high power , middle power, lower power. These will be my 3 stages - beginner as lower whp, then intermediate level as middle whp.
After all your suggestions, I don't know if I should do this or just keeping the 2015.

11-30-2021, 07:58 AM	#2 (permalink)
Spooler A True Z Fanatic Join Date: Jun 2014 Location: Ga Posts: 13,980 Drives: 2013 Nismo 370z Rep Power: 2684392	We had one guy who tried to track an A2A supercharged car. Let's just say it didn't work out for him. It was ugly. Rusty and Hotrodz like this.

11-30-2021, 01:03 PM	#3 (permalink)
ytian9 Base Member Join Date: Nov 2021 Location: Toronto Posts: 13 Drives: 09 Nissan 370Z Back Rep Power: 4	thanks . Looks like n/a fits me better. I will run away from this nismo. I did some research, though the Stella is a ticking bomb not soho. I guess it's all about admin tuning. I am listening guys. Good thing is I went here before purchase. I will keep you updated. thanks again. Rusty likes this.

11-30-2021, 01:23 PM	#4 (permalink)
Rusty Ronin Samurai - Assassin Join Date: Dec 2011 Location: Fayettenam,Pennsyltucky Age: 69 Posts: 35,362 Drives: 2011 Nismo GM 6M Rep Power: 2684438	Anything tuned by Admin tuning. I would stay away from. The good tuners are Sep, Vince at RT Tuning, SOHO, and Jon at Z1. JARblue, DarkJak, Hotrodz and 1 others like this. __________________ 浪人 - 殺し屋 "The Difficult Anytime, The Impossible By Appointment Only" http://www.the370z.com/members-370z-...o-journal.html

11-30-2021, 03:40 PM	#9 (permalink)
DarkJak A True Z Fanatic Join Date: Jun 2011 Location: Madison, WI Posts: 1,397 Drives: 2009 370Z Rep Power: 16804	Would stay away from forced induction as a track build unless the previous owner was a track rat who would've went through the GRUELING iterative work of making an FI'd car work out at the track. Heat in all systems (coolant, oil, brakes, diff) get pushed past stable operating limits on an NA car driven hard at the track without proper mods, and 1.5-2x'ing the power makes it that much tougher. For a track car, the 2015 is by far the best starting point of the ones posted. LSD, solid bushings and good suspension parts, front bar, lightweight 18 inch wheels. It's not too far away from being a solid track build. Rusty and Hotrodz like this. __________________ @stupidtoycars \| My track vids 09 7AT\|MCS 2WNR\|Topgunz Rotrex\|Ecutek (Eugene)\|Maxxis RC1\|Titan-7 TS-5\|OSG LSD\|Rear Mount Derale Oil Cooler (WIP)+25 Trans Cooler\|Fismo\|G-LOC R12/R10\|Zeta III L\|NLR Wing and Splitter\|CJM Pan and Fuel Hat\|Radium Surge Tank\|AP Racing CP9668

11-30-2021, 06:48 PM	#11 (permalink)
Jhill Track Member Join Date: Mar 2016 Location: San jose Posts: 854 Drives: 2013 370z sport Rep Power: 3385	As with others are saying I’d stay away from the boost for a first. I think one of the great things of the 370z is how easy it is to make track ready, this can’t be said with a lot of newer cars. Some simple improvements will last you a long time of tracking until you get good enough to require the more power. So many boosted cars at the track really only have the higher power for a few laps and then they start having heat soak and more and more reduced power. It’ll be interesting to see if the next Z will be as readily track able. Rusty and Hotrodz like this.

11-30-2021, 10:05 PM	#13 (permalink)
ytian9 Base Member Join Date: Nov 2021 Location: Toronto Posts: 13 Drives: 09 Nissan 370Z Back Rep Power: 4	Actually I own a used car dealership, and my partner used to work at mechanic shop. He know a lot about cars. So for any some issues, we can figure it out by ourselves. This is just a toy car for myself, I mean I will drive this in the summer and some track days whenever I have time. That's why I said I can remove all the mods from 2015. If the heat is the only problem for FIs, we can figure it out, even I have a plan to install a 72 row oil cooler on whatever car I am going to keep. I am processing to purchase the 2015 one.

11-30-2021, 10:09 PM	#14 (permalink)
ytian9 Base Member Join Date: Nov 2021 Location: Toronto Posts: 13 Drives: 09 Nissan 370Z Back Rep Power: 4	The 09 has 45k miles 2015 has 67k miles 2011 nismo has 56k miles Their price are almost the same around 21k

11-30-2021, 11:26 PM	#15 (permalink)
ytian9 Base Member Join Date: Nov 2021 Location: Toronto Posts: 13 Drives: 09 Nissan 370Z Back Rep Power: 4	My original plan was bring 2015 back to stock. Put all the mods parts on 09 or 11 nismo, then work on cooling mods. Then do what phunk said " getting the car to a serious tuning shop who has real track car experience to have the power set as conservatively as the wastegates allow, and to have the car inspected both mechanically and its tuning to make sure you have the best shot of making it through a day at the track." If they can make it 3 safe maps - high power , middle power, lower power. These will be my 3 stages - beginner as lower whp, then intermediate level as middle whp. After all your suggestions, I don't know if I should do this or just keeping the 2015.

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