Topgunz ROTREX C38R Supercharger Kit

TopgunZ · 04-09-2021, 10:12 AM

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Originally Posted by NorthStyle

IIRC you mentioned previously that these numbers were on E85, when should we expect to see the 93 numbers? I'd love to go E85, but it's just not readily available in my area (without a 45min one-way trip)

Another Q: what was the fuel system/components for this vehicle?

I am not sure when we will have 93 numbers. However, I am sure you have nothing to worry about. I can GUARANTEE this will make more power on 93 than any other supercharger option you have been considering. Really, what would be the reason it wouldn't even if you ran with a dirt ingesting kit?

The supercharger is more efficient, the intercooler is very efficient (24*F temp rise at 21psi! ) , it can control boost to dial in exactly where you make power with timing vs boost. Just looking at this kit can tell you it will dominate any other SC on 93 all while filtering the air.

And the hummm and whine of this unit puts it in a whole new realm of sound vs the marbles effect.

Geeoo · 04-09-2021, 05:01 PM

How much boost can we run with what comes with kit? Or do we need to buy a separate electronic boost controller ?

TopgunZ · 04-09-2021, 07:34 PM

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Originally Posted by Geeoo

How much boost can we run with what comes with kit? Or do we need to buy a separate electronic boost controller ?

The kit will come with 5 wastegate springs. Dial in whatever you want with those. You could add a manual or even better electronic boost controller to dial in on the fly. Revolutionary in the supercharger industry. No kit on any platform has offered this.

VHRpurr · 04-09-2021, 09:23 PM

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Originally Posted by TopgunZ

The kit will come with 5 wastegate springs. Dial in whatever you want with those. You could add a manual or even better electronic boost controller to dial in on the fly. Revolutionary in the supercharger industry. No kit on any platform has offered this.

Best part is you can buy a Specialty Z boost solenoid wiring kit, a Mac boost solenoid and control it all through EcuTek, and monitor with the Bluetooth dongle. 😎

rspray2000 · 04-10-2021, 09:10 AM

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Originally Posted by VHRpurr

Best part is you can buy a Specialty Z boost solenoid wiring kit, a Mac boost solenoid and control it all through EcuTek, and monitor with the Bluetooth dongle. ��

Any reading on how these all interface and work through the tune? Does it just eliminate the need for the boost controller in the cockpit?

Nevermind, I think I found here: https://www.full-race.com/store/borg...ol-solenoid-1/

VHRpurr · 04-10-2021, 08:20 PM

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Originally Posted by ab370

Is there going to be any option for the current ace kit to accept the new Rotex Unit.

That was already answered on the last page or 2 pages ago brotha.

TopgunZ · 04-11-2021, 07:45 AM

kromberg · 04-13-2021, 05:44 AM

I currently see the kit on the website. Does that mean is it currently in production? If so what is turn around from order place to it being shipped? With its current configuration( pulley ratio, etc ), what is the expected boost level and rwhp it is expected to produce?

SwedeZ · 04-13-2021, 06:23 AM

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Originally Posted by kromberg

I currently see the kit on the website. Does that mean is it currently in production?

What is your definition of "in production"? You won't see customers running the kit already. It was literally just announced as you can tell from this thread.

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Originally Posted by kromberg

If so what is turn around from order place to it being shipped?

On https://www.topgunspeedworks.com/nis...percharger-kit it says:

"We have many of these components being fabricated but will not be able to assemble and ship kits for 6-10 weeks."

So expect up towards 10 weeks, I guess, before it'll be shipped to you.

My local tuner here in Sweden has just put down an order for me. Really looking forward to it. Been waiting for a Topgun kit since November last year.

TopgunZ · 04-13-2021, 08:02 AM

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Originally Posted by kromberg

I currently see the kit on the website. Does that mean is it currently in production? If so what is turn around from order place to it being shipped? With its current configuration( pulley ratio, etc ), what is the expected boost level and rwhp it is expected to produce?

Swedez summed up most of this. I placed a dyno sheet for boost and rwhp on the first page. Basically, you can make anywhere from 400whp to 800whp. It all depends on what you want.

kromberg · 04-13-2021, 11:43 AM

So basically it is a 700+ rwhp kit that is being sold and if you want less rwhp you have to buy a external wastegate, boost controller, and then either manually set the boost level or control it electronic ally with a tune. Looks like EcuTek and not UpRev can do this through a tune.

Realistically this is a $9300+ kit. Base supercharger kit, fuel injectors and connectors, return style fuel system, boost controller, electronic wastegate, EcuTek license & tuning, plus X amount of unanticipated things. Does that sum things up?

TopgunZ · 04-13-2021, 12:43 PM

A wastegate comes with it with 5 springs. It's on the listing on the site. You just put whatever psi spring or combo of springs to hit your desires power level. If you want to run on the fly different power levels then an in cabin boost controller is needed or wire into ecutek. But you would still want an afr and boost gauge so you might as well opt for the innovate scb-1 which is those plus boost controller all in one for $320.

It's hard to put a dollar amount on it since everyone wants a different build and fuel required to do that. You can get fic injectors for half the price of ID...etc..

TopgunZ · 04-13-2021, 09:35 PM

TOPGUN SPEEDWORKS ROTREX SC KIT Vs. competition SCs.

www.topgunspeedworks.com

Rotrex: Record breaking 556+wtq and 22+ psi out of the box with a full filter
Competition: V3 requires overspinning and a sand eating turboguard for only 15psi.
Rotrex:Full filter that can be cleaned in 5 minutes.
Comp

irt and sand ingesting turboguard..or motorcycle filter that restricts psi to 12 and requires the removal of the entire supercharger to clean.
Rotrex: Stock plenum
Competition: Stillen plenum requiring MAF and TB extension harnesses which are extremely problematic and known heatsoak issues
Rotrex: Purrs like a kitten and whines like a F1 car
Competition: Marbles in a coffee can due to gear backlash
Rotrex: Ability to dial in exactly what psi you want to run with in cabin boost select options
Competition: Choice between 8psi or 9psi pulley. Manually removing them to swap.
Rotrex: Most affordable supercharger kit on the market that can break 500whp.
Competition: More expensive.

***We are just scratching the surface on what this kit can do!***

redondoaveb · 04-13-2021, 10:17 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by TopgunZ

TOPGUN SPEEDWORKS ROTREX SC KIT Vs. competition SCs.

www.topgunspeedworks.com

Rotrex: Record breaking 556+wtq and 22+ psi out of the box with a full filter
Competition: V3 requires overspinning and a sand eating turboguard for only 15psi.
Rotrex:Full filter that can be cleaned in 5 minutes.
Comp

irt and sand ingesting turboguard..or motorcycle filter that restricts psi to 12 and requires the removal of the entire supercharger to clean.
Rotrex: Stock plenum
Competition: Stillen plenum requiring MAF and TB extension harnesses which are extremely problematic and known heatsoak issues
Rotrex: Purrs like a kitten and whines like a F1 car
Competition: Marbles in a coffee can due to gear backlash
Rotrex: Ability to dial in exactly what psi you want to run with in cabin boost select options
Competition: Choice between 8psi or 9psi pulley. Manually removing them to swap.
Rotrex: Most affordable supercharger kit on the market that can break 500whp.
Competition: More expensive.

***We are just scratching the surface on what this kit can do!***

And don't forget to add, Vortech's customer and technical service are one of the worse to deal with.

DrBacon · 04-14-2021, 02:23 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by TopgunZ

TOPGUN SPEEDWORKS ROTREX SC KIT Vs. competition SCs.

www.topgunspeedworks.com

Rotrex: Record breaking 556+wtq and 22+ psi out of the box with a full filter
Competition: V3 requires overspinning and a sand eating turboguard for only 15psi.
Rotrex:Full filter that can be cleaned in 5 minutes.
Comp

irt and sand ingesting turboguard..or motorcycle filter that restricts psi to 12 and requires the removal of the entire supercharger to clean.
Rotrex: Stock plenum
Competition: Stillen plenum requiring MAF and TB extension harnesses which are extremely problematic and known heatsoak issues
Rotrex: Purrs like a kitten and whines like a F1 car
Competition: Marbles in a coffee can due to gear backlash
Rotrex: Ability to dial in exactly what psi you want to run with in cabin boost select options
Competition: Choice between 8psi or 9psi pulley. Manually removing them to swap.
Rotrex: Most affordable supercharger kit on the market that can break 500whp.
Competition: More expensive.

***We are just scratching the surface on what this kit can do!***

To be fair the old kit is easily possible to hit 15psi with that tiny filter, seems most people can't figure out proper belt tension to save their lives. I was at 15psi with a fresh filter, now after a year of almost daily driving the car without cleaning the filter it's only down to 14psi.

Anyways, the new kit looks amazing, good job. Love seeing the constant progress being made with this platform.

04-11-2021, 07:45 AM	#127 (permalink)
TopgunZ A True Z Fanatic Join Date: Jun 2012 Location: Minneapolis Posts: 2,651 Drives: 06 350Z , 09 370Z MT Rep Power: 6834	Optimiser, NorthStyle and VHRpurr like this. __________________ ROTREX SUPERCHARGER TUNER KITS - $6799/ CUSTOM STILLEN AIR TO AIR KITS -$2100/ 700+ WHP!! WWW.TOPGUNSPEEDWORKS.COM

04-13-2021, 05:44 AM	#128 (permalink)
kromberg Base Member Join Date: Apr 2012 Location: Colorado Posts: 93 Drives: 2013 Nismo Rep Power: 13	I currently see the kit on the website. Does that mean is it currently in production? If so what is turn around from order place to it being shipped? With its current configuration( pulley ratio, etc ), what is the expected boost level and rwhp it is expected to produce? Optimiser likes this.

04-13-2021, 11:43 AM	#131 (permalink)
kromberg Base Member Join Date: Apr 2012 Location: Colorado Posts: 93 Drives: 2013 Nismo Rep Power: 13	So basically it is a 700+ rwhp kit that is being sold and if you want less rwhp you have to buy a external wastegate, boost controller, and then either manually set the boost level or control it electronic ally with a tune. Looks like EcuTek and not UpRev can do this through a tune. Realistically this is a $9300+ kit. Base supercharger kit, fuel injectors and connectors, return style fuel system, boost controller, electronic wastegate, EcuTek license & tuning, plus X amount of unanticipated things. Does that sum things up? Optimiser likes this.

04-13-2021, 12:43 PM	#132 (permalink)
TopgunZ A True Z Fanatic Join Date: Jun 2012 Location: Minneapolis Posts: 2,651 Drives: 06 350Z , 09 370Z MT Rep Power: 6834	A wastegate comes with it with 5 springs. It's on the listing on the site. You just put whatever psi spring or combo of springs to hit your desires power level. If you want to run on the fly different power levels then an in cabin boost controller is needed or wire into ecutek. But you would still want an afr and boost gauge so you might as well opt for the innovate scb-1 which is those plus boost controller all in one for $320. It's hard to put a dollar amount on it since everyone wants a different build and fuel required to do that. You can get fic injectors for half the price of ID...etc.. Rusty, VHRpurr and SwedeZ like this. __________________ ROTREX SUPERCHARGER TUNER KITS - $6799/ CUSTOM STILLEN AIR TO AIR KITS -$2100/ 700+ WHP!! WWW.TOPGUNSPEEDWORKS.COM Last edited by TopgunZ; 04-13-2021 at 01:21 PM.

04-13-2021, 09:35 PM	#133 (permalink)
TopgunZ A True Z Fanatic Join Date: Jun 2012 Location: Minneapolis Posts: 2,651 Drives: 06 350Z , 09 370Z MT Rep Power: 6834	TOPGUN SPEEDWORKS ROTREX SC KIT Vs. competition SCs. www.topgunspeedworks.com Rotrex: Record breaking 556+wtq and 22+ psi out of the box with a full filter Competition: V3 requires overspinning and a sand eating turboguard for only 15psi. Rotrex:Full filter that can be cleaned in 5 minutes. Compirt and sand ingesting turboguard..or motorcycle filter that restricts psi to 12 and requires the removal of the entire supercharger to clean. Rotrex: Stock plenum Competition: Stillen plenum requiring MAF and TB extension harnesses which are extremely problematic and known heatsoak issues Rotrex: Purrs like a kitten and whines like a F1 car Competition: Marbles in a coffee can due to gear backlash Rotrex: Ability to dial in exactly what psi you want to run with in cabin boost select options Competition: Choice between 8psi or 9psi pulley. Manually removing them to swap. Rotrex: Most affordable supercharger kit on the market that can break 500whp. Competition: More expensive. *We are just scratching the surface on what this kit can do!* Rusty, Senna-F1, ZontheRocks and 3 others like this. __________________ ROTREX SUPERCHARGER TUNER KITS - $6799/ CUSTOM STILLEN AIR TO AIR KITS -$2100/ 700+ WHP!! WWW.TOPGUNSPEEDWORKS.COM

04-09-2021, 05:01 PM	#122 (permalink)
Geeoo Base Member Join Date: Dec 2019 Location: AZ Posts: 8 Drives: 09 Nissan 370Z M6 Rep Power: 6	How much boost can we run with what comes with kit? Or do we need to buy a separate electronic boost controller ?

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