FI newb on a rebuild project

Duc_Z09 · 09-04-2020, 10:25 PM

I've been lurking on the FI section for a while but until recently it's not something I'd seriously considered for cost reasons. Then, suddenly a Winnebago pulls across a major highway and f*cks up my prized nismo (see thread RIP #206). I'm despondent.

Fast forward to today and I'm left with a car that's damaged but completely repairable, a pile of $$ for a total loss settlement (including a small bribe for not suing the sh*t out of them for a broken finger), and grand plans to get this thing back on the road. Obviously a donor car will get me all the boring stuff like front clip assembly, airbags, windshield, control arm and wheel that broke, etc. But I want more than just my bone stock car back on the road, which brings me to the fun part.

From what I read Fast Intentions is the way to go. Aside from their stage 1 TT kit with all the options (not that an oil cooler is optional) what supporting mods should I be considering besides the ones I've already got planned or have even ordered already? These include a Mishimoto radiator, silicone hoses, oil pan spacer, diff upgrade kit with Whiteline bushings, 2 piece rotor upgrade kit, clutch/flywheel kit, motor/trans mounts, subframe connector inserts, FI exhaust (duh), and head studs. I'm also replacing all the pulleys on the front of the engine while it's apart (65k miles on an 09).

Car will be a weekend toy on a safe 93 tune 99% of the time but I wouldn't be opposed to E85 once in a blue moon. I should probably add that I have my own garage and lift bay, an assortment of air tools, and a buddy who builds/finishes cars and does collision repair professionally. The car has already been on a frame machine and it's straight.

BettyZ · 09-04-2020, 10:46 PM

There's a general trend against all things Mishitmoto, but it's your choice.

You have a good starter list. For a weekend toy I'd recommend basically the whole SPL catalog. Check Rusty's build thread for ideas regarding general builds. Hotrodz, Spooler, and Madwi are also great people with extensive experience. And, if you just love the fvck out of stickers, talk to EW.

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Duc_Z09 · 09-04-2020, 11:07 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by BettyZ

There's a general trend against all things Mishitmoto, but it's your choice.

You have a good starter list. For a weekend toy I'd recommend basically the whole SPL catalog. Check Rusty's build thread for ideas regarding general builds. Hotrodz, Spooler, and Madwi are also great people with extensive experience. And, if you just love the fvck out of stickers, talk to EW.

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What's wrong with Mishimoto? I thought they were supposed to be good.

Spooler · 09-05-2020, 12:30 AM

If you want to build the motor do it right the first time and save yourself a ton of money. Going for a 2nd go around sucks.

Duc_Z09 · 09-05-2020, 12:37 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Spooler

If you want to build the motor do it right the first time and save yourself a ton of money. Going for a 2nd go around sucks.

I hear you on that but for this car I wanna keep it to just head studs and easy stuff if possible. I have a Jeep 4.0 stroker project and eventually an LS3 for my 56 Bel Air that'll give me all the engine building I'll ever want.

How far do you think I can push the stock block (and trans/diff) safely? I'm thinking I'll be happy with 550whp.

Elmo370z · 09-05-2020, 01:09 AM

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Originally Posted by Duc_Z09

I hear you on that but for this car I wanna keep it to just head studs and easy stuff if possible. I have a Jeep 4.0 stroker project and eventually an LS3 for my 56 Bel Air that'll give me all the engine building I'll ever want.

How far do you think I can push the stock block (and trans/diff) safely? I'm thinking I'll be happy with 550whp.

Head studs aren't going to keep your heads from lifting, keep the motor stock and just add the supporting mods. 550 whp the motor will last for a really long time as long as you don’t unnecessarily beat on it and keep up with maintenance.
Since you’re in Maryland go speak with Brian and Jon at Mamotorsports they will get you right.

Spooler · 09-05-2020, 01:14 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Duc_Z09

I hear you on that but for this car I wanna keep it to just head studs and easy stuff if possible. I have a Jeep 4.0 stroker project and eventually an LS3 for my 56 Bel Air that'll give me all the engine building I'll ever want.

How far do you think I can push the stock block (and trans/diff) safely? I'm thinking I'll be happy with 550whp.

Head studs are useless. The rods are what is going to break. A stock unopened motor is just fine with stock headstuds.

Spooler · 09-05-2020, 01:22 AM

The best advice I could give you is research stock motor Twin turbo build threads on here. There is a ton of research you can do.

Martijn_b · 09-07-2020, 03:53 PM

Good list, if you dont mind doing a little bit more DIY work the GTR TT kit is also something you can consider.

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Duc_Z09 · 09-07-2020, 08:11 PM

From what I've been reading on this forum and from my own general mechanical knowledge it seems like I'm on the right track so long as I don't want anything insane.

Sound about right?

Spooler · 09-07-2020, 09:39 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Duc_Z09

From what I've been reading on this forum and from my own general mechanical knowledge it seems like I'm on the right track so long as I don't want anything insane.

Sound about right?

Yeap, You can go with a FI stage 1 or 2, 1300cc IDA injectors if you are doing E85, a diff upgrade to keep the power under control, A return fuel system of your choice, A clutch of your choice, and diff bushing upgrade.

Duc_Z09 · 09-07-2020, 10:58 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Spooler

Yeap, You can go with a FI stage 1 or 2, 1300cc IDA injectors if you are doing E85, a diff upgrade to keep the power under control, A return fuel system of your choice, A clutch of your choice, and diff bushing upgrade.

Sounds like a plan then. I'm just happy that this car can take an additional 250hp without any "meaningful" upgrades. Meaningful meaning engine or other drivetrain issues... I come from a Mustang background.😂

Duc_Z09 · 10-06-2020, 06:40 PM

Currently bidding on a salvage title nismo for my rebuild. Wish me luck.

Duc_Z09 · 11-12-2020, 06:42 PM

Lost a pair of salvage auctions. The hunt continues.

JARblue · 11-12-2020, 09:00 PM

Good luck on the build, brother. We're rooting for you

09-04-2020, 10:25 PM	#1 (permalink)
Duc_Z09 Track Member Join Date: Jan 2014 Location: Frederick MD Posts: 876 Drives: With the blinker on. Rep Power: 23	FI newb on a rebuild project I've been lurking on the FI section for a while but until recently it's not something I'd seriously considered for cost reasons. Then, suddenly a Winnebago pulls across a major highway and fcks up my prized nismo (see thread RIP #206). I'm despondent. Fast forward to today and I'm left with a car that's damaged but completely repairable, a pile of $$ for a total loss settlement (including a small bribe for not suing the sht out of them for a broken finger), and grand plans to get this thing back on the road. Obviously a donor car will get me all the boring stuff like front clip assembly, airbags, windshield, control arm and wheel that broke, etc. But I want more than just my bone stock car back on the road, which brings me to the fun part. From what I read Fast Intentions is the way to go. Aside from their stage 1 TT kit with all the options (not that an oil cooler is optional) what supporting mods should I be considering besides the ones I've already got planned or have even ordered already? These include a Mishimoto radiator, silicone hoses, oil pan spacer, diff upgrade kit with Whiteline bushings, 2 piece rotor upgrade kit, clutch/flywheel kit, motor/trans mounts, subframe connector inserts, FI exhaust (duh), and head studs. I'm also replacing all the pulleys on the front of the engine while it's apart (65k miles on an 09). Car will be a weekend toy on a safe 93 tune 99% of the time but I wouldn't be opposed to E85 once in a blue moon. I should probably add that I have my own garage and lift bay, an assortment of air tools, and a buddy who builds/finishes cars and does collision repair professionally. The car has already been on a frame machine and it's straight. JARblue likes this. __________________ 2009 370z #206 (all mods are Home Depot) 2009 Ducati 848 (full Ohlins, Termignoni, etc) 2003 Grand Cherokee (long arms, big tires, 4.56, lockers)

09-04-2020, 10:46 PM	#2 (permalink)
BettyZ A True Z Fanatic Join Date: Aug 2018 Location: Chicagoland Age: 37 Posts: 5,261 Drives: A Garage Queen Rep Power: 2684371	There's a general trend against all things Mishitmoto, but it's your choice. You have a good starter list. For a weekend toy I'd recommend basically the whole SPL catalog. Check Rusty's build thread for ideas regarding general builds. Hotrodz, Spooler, and Madwi are also great people with extensive experience. And, if you just love the fvck out of stickers, talk to EW. Sent from my SM-G955U using Tapatalk Elmo370z, Ghostvette, Duc_Z09 and 1 others like this. __________________ '14 MB Nismo \| Boost Lab 6870 1.32 AR 553 HP / 471 ft.-lbs. Betty Mods

09-05-2020, 12:30 AM	#4 (permalink)
Spooler A True Z Fanatic Join Date: Jun 2014 Location: Ga Posts: 13,797 Drives: 2013 Nismo 370z Rep Power: 2684392	If you want to build the motor do it right the first time and save yourself a ton of money. Going for a 2nd go around sucks. JARblue, Rusty, Duc_Z09 and 1 others like this.

09-05-2020, 01:22 AM	#8 (permalink)
Spooler A True Z Fanatic Join Date: Jun 2014 Location: Ga Posts: 13,797 Drives: 2013 Nismo 370z Rep Power: 2684392	The best advice I could give you is research stock motor Twin turbo build threads on here. There is a ton of research you can do. JARblue, cv129, Rusty and 2 others like this.

09-07-2020, 03:53 PM	#9 (permalink)
Martijn_b Enthusiast Member Join Date: Jan 2018 Location: Netherlands Posts: 280 Drives: 2010 370z MB 6MT Rep Power: 3786	Good list, if you dont mind doing a little bit more DIY work the GTR TT kit is also something you can consider. Sent from my SM-G973F using Tapatalk Duc_Z09 likes this. __________________ Instagram: Boosted_Fairlady

09-07-2020, 08:11 PM	#10 (permalink)
Duc_Z09 Track Member Join Date: Jan 2014 Location: Frederick MD Posts: 876 Drives: With the blinker on. Rep Power: 23	From what I've been reading on this forum and from my own general mechanical knowledge it seems like I'm on the right track so long as I don't want anything insane. Sound about right? __________________ 2009 370z #206 (all mods are Home Depot) 2009 Ducati 848 (full Ohlins, Termignoni, etc) 2003 Grand Cherokee (long arms, big tires, 4.56, lockers)

10-06-2020, 06:40 PM	#13 (permalink)
Duc_Z09 Track Member Join Date: Jan 2014 Location: Frederick MD Posts: 876 Drives: With the blinker on. Rep Power: 23	Currently bidding on a salvage title nismo for my rebuild. Wish me luck. Hotrodz, Ghostvette and Martijn_b like this. __________________ 2009 370z #206 (all mods are Home Depot) 2009 Ducati 848 (full Ohlins, Termignoni, etc) 2003 Grand Cherokee (long arms, big tires, 4.56, lockers)

11-12-2020, 06:42 PM	#14 (permalink)
Duc_Z09 Track Member Join Date: Jan 2014 Location: Frederick MD Posts: 876 Drives: With the blinker on. Rep Power: 23	Lost a pair of salvage auctions. The hunt continues. __________________ 2009 370z #206 (all mods are Home Depot) 2009 Ducati 848 (full Ohlins, Termignoni, etc) 2003 Grand Cherokee (long arms, big tires, 4.56, lockers)

11-12-2020, 09:00 PM	#15 (permalink)
JARblue A True Z Fanatic Join Date: Mar 2011 Location: Austin, TX Age: 43 Posts: 36,450 Drives: 11 Z34, 98 E36 M3 Rep Power: 2684440	Good luck on the build, brother. We're rooting for you cv129, Rusty and Duc_Z09 like this. __________________ 2011 370Z 6MT Sport Gun Metallic \| ARC \| CJM \| Ecutek \| FI \| Fujimura \| R2C \| SPL \| Stillen \| TWM \| Z1 \| ZSpeed \|

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