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BP does Twins :)
Been working on this for a couple of weeks now, on and off. Two COMP turbo 5847's, with a V-band stainless .86 a/r turbine housing. Each turbo is rated at 600HP, so the potential do well is there.
Everything is up above the subframe, so I am happy about that. Now the next steps are to get the IC piping done. Plan is to have intake pipes go to the front, stopping with air filter just before the front sway bar. Aftermarket engine mounts are required, but those are easy to install...a couple of pictures: https://i137.photobucket.com/albums/...pstwzkps6y.jpg https://i137.photobucket.com/albums/...psrkzyegrj.jpg https://i137.photobucket.com/albums/...ps3ww70fqv.jpg Next step is to get the IC pipes done, then jig the current hot side, build a kit from the jigs, and install...followed by road testing. Should be a fun spring :) On a side note, there are twin scroll kits in stock, ready to ship. |
Twin turbos were not even on my radar when I read the thread title hahaha. I thought I was on a different web site.
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Looks like a kit for manualshttps://themustangsource.com/forums/...ilies/baby.gif.....What about the guys that wanna go REAL fast with Autos???https://themustangsource.com/forums/...milies/heh.gifhttps://themustangsource.com/forums/...ies/ohsnap.gif
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whaaaaaaaaaaa awesome.
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Nice work, Sasha :tup: :tiphat: |
Not to start a single vs twins debate ... but what benefits would there be with twins on our platform .. I would assume smaller turbos would spool faster but considering your single kit spools very fast as is .. seems like any faster spooling wouldn’t be in any usable RPM range .. the single is spooling around 3.4k. And with a manual wouldn’t you be shifting above that range anytime you would require boost anyway ... And wouldn’t it lead to even more traction issues as if any boosted 370z needed that .... I haven’t ever driven a twin turbo setup to compare the difference so I really don’t know
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let me guess..........manual only still?
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Had a few inquires about pricing on this kit, based on some ballpark estimates this is what it's looking like:
Tuner kit: $8,300 Turn key: $9,500 Both would include a complete 30 row oil cooler kit with thermostatic plate, the turn key would come with 340lph fuel pump, 750cc injectors, and UpRev Tuner (with cable). Aftermarket urethane engine mounts included as well, with both tuner and turn key kits. The turbos are 58mm, capable of 600HP each, so plenty of room for big power potential. Kit would work with any exhaust system on the market. This kit will be extremely easy to install, everything is simple bolt on, with V-bands everywhere. Air filters will be easy to get to for servicing, as will EVERYTHING else. Absolutely NO NEED TO PULL THE ENGINE at all. There are no oil lines, and no coolant lines, so everything OEM is left alone. No need to pull washer reservoir off, relocate PS reservoir, or coolant overflow tank, or anything else OEM, except the crash bar. Kit is still a little ways away from being available, as there is still road testing to be done, as well as some dyno time, which will be done in June. |
Where would be the location of the air filters?
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These will be CSC delete friendly also?
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Who wants to buy my Bp single.
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Exploring some intercooler options, with a possibility to retain the OEM crash bar.
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Twins !! and CJ motorsports making adapter for the BMW DCT trans. What a time for the Z
Any word if deciding to do this for the 350 HR |
Well, it's time to sell my kit :rofl2::yum:...Sasha lemme know when the pre-order starts brother!!
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If you are going to do it, then might as well go all out:
https://i137.photobucket.com/albums/...psmo0jczla.jpg https://i137.photobucket.com/albums/...ps3q7bxkbc.jpg Looks like I'll be able to run the 2.25" IC pipe from turbo to intercooler, which is good. It is tight, but it may just work out. With turbos, the largest option will be two 62mm (65mm turbine), which are rated at 850HP EACH! Base turbos will likely be 51mm (47mm turbine) which will yield instant spool, and plenty of potential, with each being rated at 600HP each. Install of this kit will be QUICK, and easy. Same goes for any maintenance. |
Will it pull all the way to the top, or do you think it will fall off early say 6500 rpm? Great work!
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Those are the nicest test pipes I have ever seen. |
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I guess here's one way to fix an exhaust leak at the header. |
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For those of already running your kit , are you going to make it easier to make this swap if we keep parts of our current setup that would not be necessary with a full kit? Meaning the kit for a swap would only necessarily need the turbo setup with charge pipes and the intercooler. I'm just trying to justify the swap because I'm in the market for the DCT conversion.
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Don't think the DTC will be compatible for the above stated reasons...just a bit too wide of a transmission.
On another note, been driving the car, everything is performing flawlessly. These turbos come on hard at 2,500rpm, which is impressive, and just keep pulling. Just a touch on the throttle and and it is in boost on the gauge. With COVID-19 restrictions being lifter in the coming weeks, I hope to find a dyno. Just running a conservative tune, and 8.7psi springs in the wastegates on 94 octane. Also went ahead and built some 3" pipes coming off the turbo, where the Y-pipe would be. Also used two 100 cell, Mil.Spec converters to keep the smell to a minimum. Turn out really good. Still need to build the rest of the exhaust, it will be dual 3" titanium to the tips. https://i137.photobucket.com/albums/...psqlm5umxz.jpg https://i137.photobucket.com/albums/...psjilagpig.jpg |
Looks amazing. Do you have a ballpark estimate on the potential cost for the three-inch dual exhaust?
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I do not have an estimate on the exhaust at this time, as it is not completely built. |
How much time do you estimate that a tuner will need to install the twin turbo kit?
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I recommend doing it yourself. Turboing an NA car is not child’s play. You need to be in the position to ensure it is always in mechanical working order. Installing the system is going to familiarize you with it and give you a leg up in understanding it if something goes wrong. |
Thank you both. I am really torn between supercharging (A2A) and the new BP twin turbo set up. Essentially, I am looking for instant power, but nothing more than 12 psi, as the car will be driven daily (short distances, as I currently have 38K miles and the car is 4 years old).
I am looking for low 500s whp and mid to upper 400s wtq. I believe in very spirited driving, but the car will not be tracked. If the current wastegate settings show promise, I might be good with the 8.7 psi that the test car is currently running. I think that emissions will be the deciding factor, as I have to do OBD II testing (but no visual or sniffer) every two years starting this summer. The dual 100 mil spec cats that Sasha designed will help. I currently have Fast Intentions HFCs and Fast Intentions Cat Back Exhaust, but I would likely sell that exhaust, as the HFCs would not be of any use. That's why I also inquired about the full exhaust pricing. Do you believe that a defouler connected to the o2 sensor would allow me to show all sensors active and supported? |
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As for the kit, the boost/power is virtually instant. I am really impressed with these 51mm turbos, and how insanely fast they spool, even with the .86 a/r tubines. |
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I can't wait till this kit is ready
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Excited to hear any more news about this kit if you have any to share!
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