The 2020 370z needs a DCT

phunk · 02-04-2020, 08:02 PM

These flywheels can’t get here soon enough. Every evening I’m holding myself back from sending off a nagging ETA email

solidus · 02-04-2020, 08:55 PM

I've already been lookin. Transmissions going for between 1500 and 2k on ebay. I can probably get one a little cheaper at a breaker. Once Charles is finished I give it 3 months before the price jumps.

Hotrodz · 02-04-2020, 09:13 PM

I need to talk to Seb because timing might be right for my build. LMAO!!!

phunk · 02-04-2020, 09:20 PM

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Originally Posted by solidus

I've already been lookin. Transmissions going for between 1500 and 2k on ebay. I can probably get one a little cheaper at a breaker. Once Charles is finished I give it 3 months before the price jumps.

We are small peanuts in this scene. Whats going to effect the pricing on them is the fact that there are already adapter kits available for 2JZ, LS, Coyote, Miata, K series, I think F series is being worked on, and I saw some guys working on rotaries. Once these swaps become more "discovered" in the US, I predict that its going to be a bread and butter surgery across many platforms. I think that a conversion like this is going to become essential to keep the tuner car performance relevant for another decade, if it hasnt already. For those of you who have not already experienced what this type of transmission does for a car, I am excited for you. It is unimaginable how much fun it is, and how much consistently quicker the car becomes. This is huge performance being left on the table that no amount of HP gain can collect. I believe that with this transmission conversion, we will be able to see a 370z run a 9 second 1/4 mile with less than 700whp, and maybe even on 18" wheels.

solidus · 02-04-2020, 09:51 PM

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Originally Posted by phunk

We are small peanuts in this scene. Whats going to effect the pricing on them is the fact that there are already adapter kits available for 2JZ, LS, Coyote, Miata, K series, I think F series is being worked on, and I saw some guys working on rotaries. Once these swaps become more "discovered" in the US, I predict that its going to be a bread and butter surgery across many platforms. I think that a conversion like this is going to become essential to keep the tuner car performance relevant for another decade, if it hasnt already. For those of you who have not already experienced what this type of transmission does for a car, I am excited for you. It is unimaginable how much fun it is, and how much consistently quicker the car becomes. This is huge performance being left on the table that no amount of HP gain can collect. I believe that with this transmission conversion, we will be able to see a 370z run a 9 second 1/4 mile with less than 700whp, and maybe even on 18" wheels.

So my Tunerexic translator tool reads this as : We better get to steppin because the price is gonna go up most expeditiously.
This would explain why I found some trans variants at under 1k.
Which one exactly should I be looking for? The ones I saw were BMW F80 F82 F83 M3 M4 S55 DCT 7-SPEED DUAL CLUTCH TRANSMISSION. Am I on the right track?

And Phunk I'm gonna need you to talk to my son about the benefits of community college over 6MT.

phunk · 02-04-2020, 10:08 PM

The adapter plate I am making is specifically for the DCT transmission variant from the inline 6 turbo engines. F80 M4 and alike. If it came from an inline 6, and its a DCT, all information that I have says that it is compatible with this project. This is not for any of the V8 versions. In the future, I may decide to add the V8 versions to the adapter. But I will have little reason to, and probably wont unless it becomes necessary for availability.

Nobody should buy a trans yet until we have our test cars running and driving. That is unless you are willing to risk having to just flip it on ebay again if we are unable to perfect the conversion. There is a piece of me that wonders if they are worth buying as an investment, just to sell them when the value goes up later. I wouldnt be surprised if the street price goes up to 4000 for a clean example in the next year or two. For reference I paid $1750 (picked up local) for mine with under 2000 miles on it.

solidus · 02-04-2020, 10:40 PM

Considering the MK4 Getrag is ranging in the 5 to 9k range and this is an alternate, I'd say the DCT's will be approaching that within the next few years if they go free range. Already these same guys are driving up the prices of our own CD009s because they're an option in 2JZ land. I feel like I'm gonna hold off on a triple disc till you guys get this sorted to save a few bucks. I'm rooting for you hard to get this done.

Martijn_b · 02-08-2020, 06:11 AM

They are in popular demand here in Europe too. Friends of mine are using them on boosted Honda S2000's

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phunk · 03-02-2020, 05:01 AM

Progress on my end.

Still waiting for the flywheels.

But I’m going to start getting on their case this week about them. I need to get the trans up in the car so I can work on the trans mount and driveshaft, and I didn’t really want to do it without the flywheel since that means doing it twice. But it may come to that if the flywheels aren't on their way in the next 10 days.

DarkJak · 03-08-2020, 08:53 AM

Midwest 7AT Z here interested. I have a backup track car and a big want to get this done on my car.
If this works, I want to be one of the first in line.

Sequentials are too expensive for me to justify and I feel like the 7at is going to be the first point of failure for me at track days.

phunk · 03-08-2020, 02:56 PM

First unit finished. DCT on a VQ is real now.

Hotrodz · 03-08-2020, 08:14 PM

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Originally Posted by phunk

First unit finished. DCT on a VQ is real now.

Oh my! My heart is all a twitter!!!

redondoaveb · 03-08-2020, 08:53 PM

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Originally Posted by Hotrodz

Oh my! My heart is all a twitter!!!

You going automatic now?

Ventruck · 03-08-2020, 09:26 PM

Wow, indeed if anything standalone was to take a Z another step into the modern car world, it would be a DCT.

Looking forward to seeing how this progresses.

Hotrodz · 03-08-2020, 09:35 PM

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Originally Posted by redondoaveb

You going automatic now?

Well the timing is right!

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02-04-2020, 08:02 PM	#31 (permalink)
phunk A True Z Fanatic Join Date: Mar 2009 Location: Chicago Posts: 3,668 Drives: 370 Rep Power: 974723	These flywheels can’t get here soon enough. Every evening I’m holding myself back from sending off a nagging ETA email Rusty, Hotrodz and Spooler like this. __________________ Charles @ CJ Motorsports : Website \| Facebook \| Instagram \| YouTube Home of the 9 second, stock longblock, stock drivetrain 6MT 370z. 9.91 @ 142mph

02-04-2020, 08:55 PM	#32 (permalink)
solidus Track Member Join Date: Oct 2014 Location: Orlando, Florida Posts: 694 Drives: 15' Nismo Black 6MT Rep Power: 10081	I've already been lookin. Transmissions going for between 1500 and 2k on ebay. I can probably get one a little cheaper at a breaker. Once Charles is finished I give it 3 months before the price jumps. Rusty likes this.

02-04-2020, 09:13 PM	#33 (permalink)
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02-04-2020, 10:08 PM	#36 (permalink)
phunk A True Z Fanatic Join Date: Mar 2009 Location: Chicago Posts: 3,668 Drives: 370 Rep Power: 974723	The adapter plate I am making is specifically for the DCT transmission variant from the inline 6 turbo engines. F80 M4 and alike. If it came from an inline 6, and its a DCT, all information that I have says that it is compatible with this project. This is not for any of the V8 versions. In the future, I may decide to add the V8 versions to the adapter. But I will have little reason to, and probably wont unless it becomes necessary for availability. Nobody should buy a trans yet until we have our test cars running and driving. That is unless you are willing to risk having to just flip it on ebay again if we are unable to perfect the conversion. There is a piece of me that wonders if they are worth buying as an investment, just to sell them when the value goes up later. I wouldnt be surprised if the street price goes up to 4000 for a clean example in the next year or two. For reference I paid $1750 (picked up local) for mine with under 2000 miles on it. JARblue, EZT, Rusty and 3 others like this. __________________ Charles @ CJ Motorsports : Website \| Facebook \| Instagram \| YouTube Home of the 9 second, stock longblock, stock drivetrain 6MT 370z. 9.91 @ 142mph Last edited by phunk; 02-04-2020 at 10:14 PM.

02-04-2020, 10:40 PM	#37 (permalink)
solidus Track Member Join Date: Oct 2014 Location: Orlando, Florida Posts: 694 Drives: 15' Nismo Black 6MT Rep Power: 10081	Considering the MK4 Getrag is ranging in the 5 to 9k range and this is an alternate, I'd say the DCT's will be approaching that within the next few years if they go free range. Already these same guys are driving up the prices of our own CD009s because they're an option in 2JZ land. I feel like I'm gonna hold off on a triple disc till you guys get this sorted to save a few bucks. I'm rooting for you hard to get this done. EZT, Rusty, Hotrodz and 3 others like this.

02-08-2020, 06:11 AM	#38 (permalink)
Martijn_b Enthusiast Member Join Date: Jan 2018 Location: Netherlands Posts: 280 Drives: 2010 370z MB 6MT Rep Power: 3786	They are in popular demand here in Europe too. Friends of mine are using them on boosted Honda S2000's Sent from my SM-G973F using Tapatalk Rusty and Hotrodz like this. __________________ Instagram: Boosted_Fairlady

03-02-2020, 05:01 AM	#39 (permalink)
phunk A True Z Fanatic Join Date: Mar 2009 Location: Chicago Posts: 3,668 Drives: 370 Rep Power: 974723	Progress on my end. Still waiting for the flywheels. But I’m going to start getting on their case this week about them. I need to get the trans up in the car so I can work on the trans mount and driveshaft, and I didn’t really want to do it without the flywheel since that means doing it twice. But it may come to that if the flywheels aren't on their way in the next 10 days. EZT, Rusty, Hotrodz and 10 others like this. __________________ Charles @ CJ Motorsports : Website \| Facebook \| Instagram \| YouTube Home of the 9 second, stock longblock, stock drivetrain 6MT 370z. 9.91 @ 142mph Last edited by phunk; 03-10-2020 at 01:04 AM.

03-08-2020, 08:53 AM	#40 (permalink)
DarkJak A True Z Fanatic Join Date: Jun 2011 Location: Madison, WI Posts: 1,397 Drives: 2009 370Z Rep Power: 16804	Midwest 7AT Z here interested. I have a backup track car and a big want to get this done on my car. If this works, I want to be one of the first in line. Sequentials are too expensive for me to justify and I feel like the 7at is going to be the first point of failure for me at track days. phunk, Hotrodz and Chrisc3 like this. __________________ @stupidtoycars \| My track vids 09 7AT\|MCS 2WNR\|Topgunz Rotrex\|Ecutek (Eugene)\|Maxxis RC1\|Titan-7 TS-5\|OSG LSD\|Rear Mount Derale Oil Cooler (WIP)+25 Trans Cooler\|Fismo\|G-LOC R12/R10\|Zeta III L\|NLR Wing and Splitter\|CJM Pan and Fuel Hat\|Radium Surge Tank\|AP Racing CP9668

03-08-2020, 02:56 PM	#41 (permalink)
phunk A True Z Fanatic Join Date: Mar 2009 Location: Chicago Posts: 3,668 Drives: 370 Rep Power: 974723	First unit finished. DCT on a VQ is real now. JARblue, EZT, cv129 and 19 others like this. __________________ Charles @ CJ Motorsports : Website \| Facebook \| Instagram \| YouTube Home of the 9 second, stock longblock, stock drivetrain 6MT 370z. 9.91 @ 142mph Last edited by phunk; 03-10-2020 at 01:04 AM.

03-08-2020, 09:26 PM	#44 (permalink)
Ventruck Track Member Join Date: Jun 2016 Location: California Posts: 785 Drives: '13 Sport+Touring M6 Rep Power: 22898	Wow, indeed if anything standalone was to take a Z another step into the modern car world, it would be a DCT. Looking forward to seeing how this progresses.

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