Billet VQ37HR block.

phunk · 12-10-2019, 01:02 PM

$9 grand isnt bad. When comparing to their DE block pricing, I am assuming that we are talking about reusing the stock bed plate / main caps? In which case the final product of this block is actually a little more simple than a DE. That is just how I figure the numbers are working out. If it comes with a billet bed plate as well, that is a heavy group discount.

Spooler · 12-10-2019, 01:20 PM

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Originally Posted by phunk

$9 grand isnt bad. When comparing to their DE block pricing, I am assuming that we are talking about reusing the stock bed plate / main caps? In which case the final product of this block is actually a little more simple than a DE. That is just how I figure the numbers are working out. If it comes with a billet bed plate as well, that is a heavy group discount.

He did mention something about upgraded main caps with it. If we get more people we can get more details.

Chrisc3 · 12-11-2019, 01:44 AM

Can the 6mt hold 1500hp?

Elmo370z · 12-11-2019, 08:00 AM

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Originally Posted by Chrisc3

Can the 6mt hold 1500hp?

Yeah how much do you have to spend

Mr.Squeeze · 12-11-2019, 08:48 AM

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Originally Posted by Chrisc3

Can the 6mt hold 1500hp?

The weak link in our transmission's is the input shaft. It would be nice if there was an option to upgrade it.

Elmo370z · 12-11-2019, 09:18 AM

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Originally Posted by Mr.Squeeze

The weak link in our transmission's is the input shaft. It would be nice if there was an option to upgrade it.

There is. Break out the bank account, billet parts. Or move to a stand-alone to help manage the torque and boost off the line. Y’all spend so much time and effort into making huge power but miss the elephant in the room.

Spooler · 12-11-2019, 10:30 AM

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Originally Posted by Elmo370z

There is. Break out the bank account, billet parts. Or move to a stand-alone to help manage the torque and boost off the line. Y’all spend so much time and effort into making huge power but miss the elephant in the room.

Our input shafts will break at 650hp. If you shock load the input shaft it will snap like a twig. One day mine will break.

Elmo370z · 12-11-2019, 10:51 AM

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Originally Posted by Spooler

Our input shafts will break at 650hp. If you shock load the input shaft it will snap like a twig. One day mine will break.

With a stand-alone you can leave the line with as little or as much boost as you want. Technically you could launch a 1,000whp Z on stock axles with breaking much. For example leave the line at 6k making only 2-5 psi, the. Aggressively ramp in the boost. All depends if your tuner is willing to work with you while test and R&D. Communication is going to be huge for you if you go this route.

Mr.Squeeze · 12-11-2019, 11:27 AM

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Originally Posted by Spooler

Our input shafts will break at 650hp. If you shock load the input shaft it will snap like a twig. One day mine will break.

It can take a decent pounding when I broke mine it was after countless powershifting/flatfoot shifting. I use to beat the hell out of it sounded like a sledgehammer almost 20k miles. You have more power than what I had back in the day time will tell how long it will last.

Spooler · 12-11-2019, 09:41 AM

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Originally Posted by Chrisc3

Can the 6mt hold 1500hp?

Straight answer, Noop.

Elmo370z · 12-11-2019, 10:48 AM

This is alien territory. Going to have to start having 1 off parts being made. Test, break, replace, test, #]^*} shyte, replace until it start to work

phunk · 12-11-2019, 12:00 PM

At less than $2000 brand new, these transmissions are pretty expendable. It can be replaced for a similar cost as your tires for an event.

phunk · 12-11-2019, 01:03 PM

This stuff is expensive, but so is moving on.

(begin off topic rant)

I bought a new Mustang GT 6MT in 2015. I modified it similar to how my 370z was at the time (bolt-on FI, wheels/tires, mild suspension for daily driving, fuel system and tuning, exhaust/clutch). It made 815whp at 12psi on the stock engine, and at that power its about as dependable as a 370z at maybe 725whp stock engine. Similar performance between the 2 as well (it just barely inched away from Justins Z running at 700whp).

Lately I have considered selling that Mustang. Based on the going rate for one setup like it, I stand to lose $35,000 - $38,000 in depreciation (car+mods-sale value). I have about 24,000 miles on that car. So I paid 35+ to drive that car for 24,000 miles, and it really doesnt have much on a 370z, if anything at all. A slightly better stereo and nicer seats. If I had at least purchased the auto, it would be quite a bit quicker at the drag strip. But mine is manual trans.

Moving to other platforms can look like a better value from the outside sometimes. And they might have been, had you not already owned a 370z. But imagine what I could have done with 65 grand into my 370z over 4 years. I think I would have had to start stuffing wads of cash in the glovebox to even put that kind of money into it. It certainly would have been a much wiser business decision for me.

Sometimes it sounds insane to put 30-40g into building a engine and trans setup for your car... but that is merely the depreciation you will eat moving on to a new platform. We just need something like this billet block (or figure out a complete solution for the cast block) so that we can truly reap the benefits of building these, spending some quality time behind the wheel. Dealing with broken transmissions, axles, whatever you can think of... sounds like a complete JOY to me, because that means the glass ceiling has been broken. That other stuff is more typical and expected costs of racing.

(end off topic)

Elmo370z · 12-11-2019, 02:28 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by phunk

This stuff is expensive, but so is moving on.

(begin off topic rant)

I bought a new Mustang GT 6MT in 2015. I modified it similar to how my 370z was at the time (bolt-on FI, wheels/tires, mild suspension for daily driving, fuel system and tuning, exhaust/clutch). It made 815whp at 12psi on the stock engine, and at that power its about as dependable as a 370z at maybe 725whp stock engine. Similar performance between the 2 as well (it just barely inched away from Justins Z running at 700whp).

Lately I have considered selling that Mustang. Based on the going rate for one setup like it, I stand to lose $35,000 - $38,000 in depreciation (car+mods-sale value). I have about 24,000 miles on that car. So I paid 35+ to drive that car for 24,000 miles, and it really doesnt have much on a 370z, if anything at all. A slightly better stereo and nicer seats. If I had at least purchased the auto, it would be quite a bit quicker at the drag strip. But mine is manual trans.

Moving to other platforms can look like a better value from the outside sometimes. And they might have been, had you not already owned a 370z. But imagine what I could have done with 65 grand into my 370z over 4 years. I think I would have had to start stuffing wads of cash in the glovebox to even put that kind of money into it. It certainly would have been a much wiser business decision for me.

Sometimes it sounds insane to put 30-40g into building a engine and trans setup for your car... but that is merely the depreciation you will eat moving on to a new platform. We just need something like this billet block (or figure out a complete solution for the cast block) so that we can truly reap the benefits of building these, spending some quality time behind the wheel. Dealing with broken transmissions, axles, whatever you can think of... sounds like a complete JOY to me, because that means the glass ceiling has been broken. That other stuff is more typical and expected costs of racing.

(end off topic)

Edgar Charles poe

Hotrodz · 12-11-2019, 03:37 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by phunk

This stuff is expensive, but so is moving on.

(begin off topic rant)

I bought a new Mustang GT 6MT in 2015. I modified it similar to how my 370z was at the time (bolt-on FI, wheels/tires, mild suspension for daily driving, fuel system and tuning, exhaust/clutch). It made 815whp at 12psi on the stock engine, and at that power its about as dependable as a 370z at maybe 725whp stock engine. Similar performance between the 2 as well (it just barely inched away from Justins Z running at 700whp).

Lately I have considered selling that Mustang. Based on the going rate for one setup like it, I stand to lose $35,000 - $38,000 in depreciation (car+mods-sale value). I have about 24,000 miles on that car. So I paid 35+ to drive that car for 24,000 miles, and it really doesnt have much on a 370z, if anything at all. A slightly better stereo and nicer seats. If I had at least purchased the auto, it would be quite a bit quicker at the drag strip. But mine is manual trans.

Moving to other platforms can look like a better value from the outside sometimes. And they might have been, had you not already owned a 370z. But imagine what I could have done with 65 grand into my 370z over 4 years. I think I would have had to start stuffing wads of cash in the glovebox to even put that kind of money into it. It certainly would have been a much wiser business decision for me.

Sometimes it sounds insane to put 30-40g into building a engine and trans setup for your car... but that is merely the depreciation you will eat moving on to a new platform. We just need something like this billet block (or figure out a complete solution for the cast block) so that we can truly reap the benefits of building these, spending some quality time behind the wheel. Dealing with broken transmissions, axles, whatever you can think of... sounds like a complete JOY to me, because that means the glass ceiling has been broken. That other stuff is more typical and expected costs of racing.

(end off topic)

As I have said it is cheaper to keep her especially because she is still sexy, doesn't talk back or cheats on me. I have thoughts all the time about other cars but at $50k plus there is nothing I want to put me in debt to lose more money. Anyway I slice it I am way ahead building a motor than buying something newer, slower car that will not excite my senses as much unless I want to drop six figures....and I don't. I am in month 12 of my wait and I am in no rush as I am hopeful that a solution will be soon daylighted.

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12-10-2019, 01:02 PM	#1 (permalink)
phunk A True Z Fanatic Join Date: Mar 2009 Location: Chicago Posts: 3,669 Drives: 370 Rep Power: 974724	$9 grand isnt bad. When comparing to their DE block pricing, I am assuming that we are talking about reusing the stock bed plate / main caps? In which case the final product of this block is actually a little more simple than a DE. That is just how I figure the numbers are working out. If it comes with a billet bed plate as well, that is a heavy group discount. Rusty, Hotrodz and Spooler like this. __________________ Charles @ CJ Motorsports : Website \| Facebook \| Instagram \| YouTube Home of the 9 second, stock longblock, stock drivetrain 6MT 370z. 9.91 @ 142mph

12-11-2019, 10:48 AM	#11 (permalink)
Elmo370z A True Z Fanatic Join Date: Apr 2013 Location: st. petersburg Posts: 5,724 Drives: 09 nissan 370z Sp M6 Rep Power: 295378	This is alien territory. Going to have to start having 1 off parts being made. Test, break, replace, test, #]^*} shyte, replace until it start to work jchammond likes this.

12-11-2019, 12:00 PM	#12 (permalink)
phunk A True Z Fanatic Join Date: Mar 2009 Location: Chicago Posts: 3,669 Drives: 370 Rep Power: 974724	At less than $2000 brand new, these transmissions are pretty expendable. It can be replaced for a similar cost as your tires for an event. JARblue, Rusty, Hotrodz and 3 others like this. __________________ Charles @ CJ Motorsports : Website \| Facebook \| Instagram \| YouTube Home of the 9 second, stock longblock, stock drivetrain 6MT 370z. 9.91 @ 142mph

12-11-2019, 01:03 PM	#13 (permalink)
phunk A True Z Fanatic Join Date: Mar 2009 Location: Chicago Posts: 3,669 Drives: 370 Rep Power: 974724	This stuff is expensive, but so is moving on. (begin off topic rant) I bought a new Mustang GT 6MT in 2015. I modified it similar to how my 370z was at the time (bolt-on FI, wheels/tires, mild suspension for daily driving, fuel system and tuning, exhaust/clutch). It made 815whp at 12psi on the stock engine, and at that power its about as dependable as a 370z at maybe 725whp stock engine. Similar performance between the 2 as well (it just barely inched away from Justins Z running at 700whp). Lately I have considered selling that Mustang. Based on the going rate for one setup like it, I stand to lose $35,000 - $38,000 in depreciation (car+mods-sale value). I have about 24,000 miles on that car. So I paid 35+ to drive that car for 24,000 miles, and it really doesnt have much on a 370z, if anything at all. A slightly better stereo and nicer seats. If I had at least purchased the auto, it would be quite a bit quicker at the drag strip. But mine is manual trans. Moving to other platforms can look like a better value from the outside sometimes. And they might have been, had you not already owned a 370z. But imagine what I could have done with 65 grand into my 370z over 4 years. I think I would have had to start stuffing wads of cash in the glovebox to even put that kind of money into it. It certainly would have been a much wiser business decision for me. Sometimes it sounds insane to put 30-40g into building a engine and trans setup for your car... but that is merely the depreciation you will eat moving on to a new platform. We just need something like this billet block (or figure out a complete solution for the cast block) so that we can truly reap the benefits of building these, spending some quality time behind the wheel. Dealing with broken transmissions, axles, whatever you can think of... sounds like a complete JOY to me, because that means the glass ceiling has been broken. That other stuff is more typical and expected costs of racing. (end off topic) JARblue, cv129, Rusty and 10 others like this. __________________ Charles @ CJ Motorsports : Website \| Facebook \| Instagram \| YouTube Home of the 9 second, stock longblock, stock drivetrain 6MT 370z. 9.91 @ 142mph Last edited by phunk; 12-11-2019 at 01:16 PM.

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