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G37Sam 08-16-2009 06:49 PM

Dayum Sam don't do this to us lol

Brazilbro 08-16-2009 06:55 PM

:woot:
Can't wait for the numbers! Is this with your 3in turbo exaust?

SAM@GTM 08-16-2009 07:11 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by westpak@HPLogic (Post 153445)
nice video, but get off the dyno and ship me the kit LOL I have an awaiting customer chomping at the bit

We are there Guss, The move just relay killed us, I appreciate Your patients . And it will be worth the wait .

Sam

SAM@GTM 08-16-2009 07:11 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Brazilbro (Post 153453)
:woot:
Can't wait for the numbers! Is this with your 3in turbo exaust?

Yes

Sam

370z4Steve 08-16-2009 07:17 PM

numbers?

SAM@GTM 08-16-2009 07:30 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by 370z4Steve (Post 153479)
numbers?

Expect 550 to 600 WHP :D

We will start a new thread with a complete Write up.

Sam

370z4Steve 08-16-2009 07:35 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by SAM@GTM (Post 153497)
Expect 550 to 600 WHP :D

We will start a new thread with a complete Write up.

Sam

looking forward to it.:tup:

LiquidZ 08-16-2009 09:31 PM

I was wondering what happened to you guys!

JoeD 08-16-2009 09:36 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by SAM@GTM (Post 153497)
Expect 550 to 600 WHP :D

Stock block/internals/cams?

Not to veer OT, but what is the upper range of power these motors can be reliably (I know that's relative) pushed to? I'm not talking the brink of the envelope where one bad batch of gas and the motor is toast, but rather where the engine can dish it out on a regular basis and you don't cringe everytime you go WOT.

MrBMW 08-16-2009 10:31 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by SAM@GTM (Post 153431)
We are finally on the dyno, Stay tuned

Sam
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I had just found that video on Youtube doing a random search. Great work guys:tiphat:, cant wait for this to come and/or be available for us in Australia.

Red370 08-16-2009 10:48 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by SAM@GTM (Post 153497)
Expect 550 to 600 WHP :D

We will start a new thread with a complete Write up.

Sam

OMG... take that EVO boys!!!! MUHAHAHAHA! :eek:

Mitsuyager9 08-16-2009 11:48 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Red370 (Post 153880)
OMG... take that EVO boys!!!! MUHAHAHAHA! :eek:

4 cylinders and less money can easily make that hp on pump

sktvietdragon 08-17-2009 12:24 AM

more vids!!!

Red370 08-17-2009 12:29 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Mitsuyager9 (Post 153982)
4 cylinders and less money can easily make that hp on pump

I own a 95' GSX, no sir, they cannot. You go beyond 500whp on a 4G/EJ, internals need to be beefed up, putting you beyond this TT cost. And no. not on pump.:ugh2:

Brazilbro 08-17-2009 12:31 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Red370 (Post 153880)
OMG... take that EVO boys!!!! MUHAHAHAHA! :eek:

I will be as soon as they ship it out :owned:

Red370 08-17-2009 12:35 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Brazilbro (Post 154094)
I will be as soon as they ship it out :owned:

And please sir, post the vid when you do.

Dcwatson7 08-17-2009 01:38 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Red370 (Post 154087)
I own a 95' GSX, no sir, they cannot. You go beyond 500whp on a 4G/EJ, internals need to be beefed up, putting you beyond this TT cost. And no. not on pump.:ugh2:

Hmm, thats strange...because i have a 95 Eagle Talon putting down over 500 whp on pump gas...but yes it did cost alot to get there :(

Valentino 08-17-2009 01:44 PM

come on Sam... you can rev it more then that ... we want to hear that blow off valve... :D

jmlenz 08-17-2009 01:59 PM

Awwwwwww yes finally!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Abilor 08-17-2009 04:15 PM

O god. Post dyno vid soon plz.

JoeD 08-17-2009 04:55 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by JoeD (Post 153742)
Stock block/internals/cams?

Not to veer OT, but what is the upper range of power these motors can be reliably (I know that's relative) pushed to? I'm not talking the brink of the envelope where one bad batch of gas and the motor is toast, but rather where the engine can dish it out on a regular basis and you don't cringe everytime you go WOT.

Anyone? After some snooping around, the consensus on pump-gas in the range of 450-500 RWHP. That seems a little exaggerated to me, but is there any truth behind this?

Red370 08-17-2009 07:38 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Dcwatson7 (Post 154600)
Hmm, thats strange...because i have a 95 Eagle Talon putting down over 500 whp on pump gas...but yes it did cost alot to get there :(

Is this a TSI? Because if it is, of course its expensive to make that kinda power, you have to compensate for the drivetrain loss of the AWD, the GS-Ts made power way easier. I spent a total of 12k to make 500whp, and its only "safe" running a fuel mix containing 110. You might make that power, but that engine will not last, especially if you have stock rods/pistons, the earlier 4G's were made of glass.

ishthemienguy 08-18-2009 09:16 AM

man...sex on wheels....

Rob@Altered 08-18-2009 10:55 AM

GTM,
Very nice!!! I would love to see good number on that kit!

dyezak 08-19-2009 09:17 AM

Back in 02-04 I worked at a prominent DSM shop outside of D.C. It was absolutely childs play to get to 450-500hp in a DSM without even lifting the head off the block. Problem is at that level you are tuned pretty close to the edge. One tank of sub par pump gas and you are toast. Good example:

Personal GSX stock longblock, t3/t4 setup on a 60-1 compressor side, AEM EMS, 720 injectors put down 469hp to the wheels without pushing it too much. I ran like that for almost a year on pump gas, but one night I must have had a bad tank... Hit a little detonation and the #1 piston decided to come apart, demolishing the shortblock, head, and turbo.

On the 4g63 the stock cast pistons are the weak link, a little knock and poof you are gone. We normally suggested our customers to go with rods/pistons at the 450hp mark, and if not turn down the boost on pump, and only run full boost on c16.

Even though I didn't do a LOT to my car to get to 469whp, I did end up spending around $7k, and did all the work myself and was getting dirt cheap prices cause I worked at the shop.

EMS: $1400
Turb: $800
Exhaust: $800
t3/t4 manifold: $300
Wastegate: $200
Injectors/Pump: $500
Boost Controler: $400
FMIC: $1200
Clutch/Flywheel: $600
Misc: $???

So although it was easy to get there...staying there in one piece without a little internal engine work was a little more difficult :) Heck, my cost on rods/pistons was only $800, and could have gotten the machine work for another $200. For another $1000 I could have made that setup a completely reliable venture. Again, doing all the work myself.

If we were to do the install on all that the bill would have been around $3500....

So this 370z kit is VERY reasonable.

Red370 08-19-2009 10:32 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by dyezak (Post 157604)
Back in 02-04 I worked at a prominent DSM shop outside of D.C. It was absolutely childs play to get to 450-500hp in a DSM without even lifting the head off the block. Problem is at that level you are tuned pretty close to the edge. One tank of sub par pump gas and you are toast. Good example:

Personal GSX stock longblock, t3/t4 setup on a 60-1 compressor side, AEM EMS, 720 injectors put down 469hp to the wheels without pushing it too much. I ran like that for almost a year on pump gas, but one night I must have had a bad tank... Hit a little detonation and the #1 piston decided to come apart, demolishing the shortblock, head, and turbo.

On the 4g63 the stock cast pistons are the weak link, a little knock and poof you are gone. We normally suggested our customers to go with rods/pistons at the 450hp mark, and if not turn down the boost on pump, and only run full boost on c16.

Even though I didn't do a LOT to my car to get to 469whp, I did end up spending around $7k, and did all the work myself and was getting dirt cheap prices cause I worked at the shop.

EMS: $1400
Turb: $800
Exhaust: $800
t3/t4 manifold: $300
Wastegate: $200
Injectors/Pump: $500
Boost Controler: $400
FMIC: $1200
Clutch/Flywheel: $600
Misc: $???

So although it was easy to get there...staying there in one piece without a little internal engine work was a little more difficult :) Heck, my cost on rods/pistons was only $800, and could have gotten the machine work for another $200. For another $1000 I could have made that setup a completely reliable venture. Again, doing all the work myself.

If we were to do the install on all that the bill would have been around $3500....

So this 370z kit is VERY reasonable.

Words of wisdom. I was looking into buying another, but GSX's/TSI's arent exactly easy to come by.

dainedazz 08-20-2009 07:30 AM

intercooler is HUGE. this is gonna be sex. i wonder if the stock front bumper would be able to fit..

dainedazz 08-20-2009 07:31 AM

need DYNO RESULTSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSS :)

nq23 08-20-2009 10:09 AM

im excited!:worship:

Equinox 08-21-2009 12:57 PM

Subscribo.

Abilor 08-21-2009 03:05 PM

Bueller?

roddy 08-25-2009 04:30 PM

subscribing

shabarivas 08-25-2009 04:47 PM

no updates? you guys are doing the whole hype thing too huh

dainedazz 08-25-2009 04:51 PM

LOL shabarivas your all over the forced induction thread pwahha

Solus 08-26-2009 05:46 PM

comeon lol... rev it up a little

shabarivas 08-26-2009 06:10 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by dainedazz (Post 168906)
LOL shabarivas your all over the forced induction thread pwahha

Well :) Can I say I have some serious plans for the Z... I am holding off on small mods in the hopes that I can do something major :p - Probably end up going SC - either stillen or vortec :)

mrmixitup 08-27-2009 01:25 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by SAM@GTM (Post 153431)
We are finally on the dyno, Stay tuned

Sam

Good lord. 3 months from "almost done" to a dyno video which doesn't show much of anything?

That TT G37 was put together alot faster than this.

Turbo Tuner 08-27-2009 11:18 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by mrmixitup (Post 172053)
Good lord. 3 months from "almost done" to a dyno video which doesn't show much of anything?

That TT G37 was put together alot faster than this.

Come on' man... this is how you KNOW the kit will be "good." They're dyno tuning it for THREE MONTHS to get it perfect...LMAO!!:icon18:

dainedazz 08-27-2009 01:20 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by shabarivas (Post 171222)
Well :) Can I say I have some serious plans for the Z... I am holding off on small mods in the hopes that I can do something major :p - Probably end up going SC - either stillen or vortec :)

true. lots of anticipation and speculating going on nowadays.
them dudes @ stillen/vortech are :stirthepot::stirthepot::stirthepot:

westpak 08-29-2009 09:41 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by SAM@GTM (Post 153465)
We are there Guss, The move just relay killed us, I appreciate Your patients . And it will be worth the wait .

Sam

got the last of the boxes, kit looks very nice.

Hope to be installing it next week :)


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