A2A Supercharged Intake Options

Senna-F1

Hey man, you helped me out early on, so I can probably work with you on getting you something. I just don’t want to give away all the hard work to someone who might try to do something with it that I wouldn’t approve of. I’ve gotten mostly laughs and disbelief comments. Those comments got more likes than my posts of the design or data I posted. So I’m not really eager to share anything at this point. There a few guys who get it, and I’m fine helping them out and sharing things. I’ll email you!

takemorepills

Hey guys, maybe I am way outta line here! But, why the heck all of the effort to squeeze an intake through the radiator support?

The radiator support on our cars is just a plastic structure that has nearly zero value as a crash integrity structure, so why not just window the area that we need an intake tube to go through?

Please excuse me if I am asking a naive question. I am planning on getting the TG ACE kit, and all of this effort about a clean way to bring intake air into the SC has me researching a lot. I have looked at pictures of the 370Z and G37 front end and radiator supports and am just wondering why not hack it up? It's not going to rust away.....

Senna-F1

Turtle and I both did plenty of hacking. Did you see where he went through 7 cutting wheels or something like that? So, we’re hacking, we’re just not removing all of it like one guy did. As for my approach, I didn’t want to be limited to a tube shape because as you can see, you can’t fit a large tube in there, and that greatly affects the surface area of the intake.

takemorepills

Maybe I'm naive. I haven't personally fully disassembled the front end on my Q60....yet. But, looking at the pics of the core support, it almost seems that you could section-out the core support, completely, and have enough room for a round tube intake. And the consequences would be nil, I guess??
core support.jpg

takemorepills

I guess there are AC lines right there also?

Senna-F1

And metal, and a headlight, more metal, bumper attachment point , a supercharger inlet that doesn’t line up with anything, etc.

turtle64b

Yeah, I got as close as I felt comfortable getting. I essentially did my best to round out that rectangle-ish hole there to fit a 3.5" silicone tube through. It has enough pliability to let me bend it to the Supercharger inlet. The problem being that with the pliability, comes collapse-ability... I haven't had the time I've wanted to work on a fix yet. My current setup collapses right around 10psi.

The reason that this is dangerous is because when the tube un-collapses, fuel may not be able to compensate fast enough to prevent the car from leaning out. Hence why I haven't taken it out for much datalogging lately.

Senna-F1

Bens version 2. Just noticed this new video.

https://youtu.be/6YVHLzsSg4A

turtle64b

That looks really interesting. Made out of fiberglass definitely gives it more rigidity than silicone haha

Senna-F1

It just looks like fiberglass. It was printed in ABS and then coated with clear epoxy.

DrBacon

That placement looks a little less than ideal, hit a small puddle and you're hydrolocked.

turtle64b

The inner liner of the wheel has a triangle-ish point on the bottom that mates to the front bumper cover. There are some holes in it, but you should be safe as long as you don't submerge it for more than a few seconds. Thos holes could be sealed up pretty easily too, if desired for a little extra protection.

takemorepills

Ben's intake doesn't seem to clear the driver side bumper mount (could be a bad camera angle) and his core support is all cut up. Also, are his A/C lines gone?

turtle64b

AC lines are still there. Pause at the 15 second point to see them. He is doing great work, but I (and some others) don't like how much was cut to make it fit.

V8Killer

Keep it pushing guys. Trial and error is gonna be a normal thing when breaking the norm. Don't let some people on the forum sway you from what you are trying to accomplish, I am positive there are other people out there like me waiting patiently to see the fruits of your labor.

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