A few issues with my Stillen supercharger

Bikeracer1098 · 05-09-2018, 02:09 PM

Bought a 2016 370z Nismo which has had a stillen supercharger fitted along with the smaller 9lb pulley.
During the conversion which was done at around 1200miles, it also had the following Parts fitted - uprated fuel pump, fuel return system, ID 725cc injectors, UPrev GT MAFs, bypass valve, thermostatic oil cooler, ECUTek remap, Xtreme single puck clutch, gearbox oil cooler, diff oil cooler, cobra catback exhaust, japspeed decats, and uprated brakes.

Done around 1800miles in the last 6 weeks and whilst Car drives well, acceleration from 2000-3700RPM doesn’t feel as strong as the dyno graph suggests.

Recently the car has struggled to accelerate from around 2200 RPM during the first 4 miles and also the engine cut out twice whilst deaccelerating towards a junction.

Also on a few occasions whilst pulliing away from a cold start the revs rose to around 2500RPM

Car seems to run OK at the moment apart from not acccelerating as hard as I would expect from 2000-3700RPM

The company who installed the Parts and did the mapping are busy for the next 3 weeks.

Any suggestions? Could it be a faulty MAF etc

Thanks

turtle64b · 05-09-2018, 09:58 PM

I don't think the Uprev MAFs play with the Ecutek tune...

7ssain · 05-10-2018, 06:25 AM

if you have the Ecutek cable or bluetooth ecu connect.. i would take few logs and send them to a well known tuner who is familiar with this platform for a review.. he will be able to tell u if its something in the tune or ur having some sort of mechanical issue

Bikeracer1098 · 05-10-2018, 05:04 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by 7ssain

if you have the Ecutek cable or bluetooth ecu connect.. i would take few logs and send them to a well known tuner who is familiar with this platform for a review.. he will be able to tell u if its something in the tune or ur having some sort of mechanical issue

Thanks for the advice.
Haven’t got the ECUtek cable or connect but got the car booked into the tunner who mapped the car on the 30th May.

ihiryu · 05-10-2018, 05:08 PM

It doesn't what MAF you use, since you're scaling it. However, your car almost has the same issues that most have with the stillen supercharger. P1239

It's an issue with the extension cables, so I'd definitely give those a once over.

Bikeracer1098 · 05-10-2018, 07:34 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ihiryu

It doesn't what MAF you use, since you're scaling it. However, your car almost has the same issues that most have with the stillen supercharger. P1239

It's an issue with the extension cables, so I'd definitely give those a once over.

Is there a way to check the extension cable? Maybe measuring the resistance of each individual cable etc

Thanks

TopgunZ · 05-10-2018, 09:20 PM

I have 2 sets of brand new gen 2 cables just sitting around. If you need a set let me know.

Bikeracer1098 · 05-11-2018, 03:07 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by TopgunZ

I have 2 sets of brand new gen 2 cables just sitting around. If you need a set let me know.

Thanks, will try and test mine and I’ll send you a PM

Any idea when were the Gen 2 cables released.

Mine was fitted in August 2016

So probably shipped from Stillen in a June/ early July 2016

Bikeracer1098 · 05-11-2018, 02:34 PM

Is there a way to test these leads?

Tried to read the resistance with a multimeter this afternoon but failed due to the connector

Thanks

redondoaveb · 05-11-2018, 02:52 PM

I may be wrong but I thought I read another thread on here that the gen 2 cables have a different outside coating (housing) than the 1st gen. I'm sure others on here can verify if that's correct or if I'm just going crazy.

TBatt · 05-11-2018, 04:59 PM

They look very similar but the wire gauge is larger for the gen 2 cables. The problem with the earlier ones was an intermittent connection. Very hard to test with a multi-meter.

One other thing, the SC system just starts making boost at around 3K rpm, so below that it is a NA engine.

You need to let the engine warm up before you flog it. The oil will be thick and the oil pressure will be extremely high if you rev it hard while cool. I always get the oil temp up to at least 140 before I start to have some fun. Your engine will thank you.

TBatt · 05-11-2018, 05:00 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by redondoaveb

I may be wrong but I thought I read another thread on here that the gen 2 cables have a different outside coating (housing) than the 1st gen. I'm sure others on here can verify if that's correct or if I'm just going crazy.

I have both and the outer skin (referred to as "snake skin") is the same nylon material.

TopgunZ · 05-11-2018, 05:04 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by TBatt

I have both and the outer skin (referred to as "snake skin") is the same nylon material.

Can you put a caliper on a cable of each gen so we can vary them?

Bikeracer1098 · 05-12-2018, 11:59 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by TBatt

I have both and the outer skin (referred to as "snake skin") is the same nylon material.

Are you able to post up a photo of the Gen 1 & Gen 2 cables with the connectors next to each other?

Thanks

Bikeracer1098 · 05-12-2018, 12:14 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by TBatt

They look very similar but the wire gauge is larger for the gen 2 cables. The problem with the earlier ones was an intermittent connection. Very hard to test with a multi-meter.

One other thing, the SC system just starts making boost at around 3K rpm, so below that it is a NA engine.

You need to let the engine warm up before you flog it. The oil will be thick and the oil pressure will be extremely high if you rev it hard while cool. I always get the oil temp up to at least 140 before I start to have some fun. Your engine will thank you.

Comming from a background of racing Bikes I have OCD with warning up engines properly.

My std 2018 370 Nismo feels far more torquy between 2000-3000RPM than my 2016 Supercharged Nismo.

Recently had the car stutter at around 2200RPM during the first 4 miles or so of a journey also stalled twice but hasn’t done so since. On startup the revs have also bounced up to around 2300RPM a few times.

Will post up a video showing the car accelerating on a hot engine from 2000-7000RPM. Car seems to accelerate slower between 2200-3700RPM as if it’s restricted.

Is this the symptoms of faulty extension MAF cables?

05-09-2018, 02:09 PM	#1 (permalink)
Bikeracer1098 Base Member Join Date: Dec 2017 Location: Camberley Posts: 59 Drives: Porsche 997.2 turbo Rep Power: 7	A few issues with my Stillen supercharger Bought a 2016 370z Nismo which has had a stillen supercharger fitted along with the smaller 9lb pulley. During the conversion which was done at around 1200miles, it also had the following Parts fitted - uprated fuel pump, fuel return system, ID 725cc injectors, UPrev GT MAFs, bypass valve, thermostatic oil cooler, ECUTek remap, Xtreme single puck clutch, gearbox oil cooler, diff oil cooler, cobra catback exhaust, japspeed decats, and uprated brakes. Done around 1800miles in the last 6 weeks and whilst Car drives well, acceleration from 2000-3700RPM doesn’t feel as strong as the dyno graph suggests. Recently the car has struggled to accelerate from around 2200 RPM during the first 4 miles and also the engine cut out twice whilst deaccelerating towards a junction. Also on a few occasions whilst pulliing away from a cold start the revs rose to around 2500RPM Car seems to run OK at the moment apart from not acccelerating as hard as I would expect from 2000-3700RPM The company who installed the Parts and did the mapping are busy for the next 3 weeks. Any suggestions? Could it be a faulty MAF etc Thanks __________________

05-10-2018, 06:25 AM	#3 (permalink)
7ssain Base Member Join Date: Jul 2014 Location: Bahrain Posts: 58 Drives: 2013 BP Turbo 370z Rep Power: 11	if you have the Ecutek cable or bluetooth ecu connect.. i would take few logs and send them to a well known tuner who is familiar with this platform for a review.. he will be able to tell u if its something in the tune or ur having some sort of mechanical issue turtle64b likes this.

05-10-2018, 05:08 PM	#5 (permalink)
ihiryu Base Member Join Date: Oct 2016 Location: TX Posts: 141 Drives: 2013 Nismo 370z 6MT Rep Power: 34	It doesn't what MAF you use, since you're scaling it. However, your car almost has the same issues that most have with the stillen supercharger. P1239 It's an issue with the extension cables, so I'd definitely give those a once over. Optimiser likes this.

05-10-2018, 09:20 PM	#7 (permalink)
TopgunZ A True Z Fanatic Join Date: Jun 2012 Location: Minneapolis Posts: 2,651 Drives: 06 350Z , 09 370Z MT Rep Power: 6834	I have 2 sets of brand new gen 2 cables just sitting around. If you need a set let me know. __________________ ROTREX SUPERCHARGER TUNER KITS - $6799/ CUSTOM STILLEN AIR TO AIR KITS -$2100/ 700+ WHP!! WWW.TOPGUNSPEEDWORKS.COM

05-11-2018, 02:34 PM	#9 (permalink)
Bikeracer1098 Base Member Join Date: Dec 2017 Location: Camberley Posts: 59 Drives: Porsche 997.2 turbo Rep Power: 7	Is there a way to test these leads? Tried to read the resistance with a multimeter this afternoon but failed due to the connector Thanks __________________

05-09-2018, 09:58 PM	#2 (permalink)
turtle64b Track Member Join Date: Jun 2015 Location: Granbury, TX Posts: 550 Drives: '11 SC Blue 7AT Rep Power: 3366	I don't think the Uprev MAFs play with the Ecutek tune...

05-11-2018, 02:52 PM	#10 (permalink)
redondoaveb A True Z Fanatic Join Date: Apr 2017 Location: So. Commiefornia Posts: 6,360 Drives: 2014 Nismo Gunmetal Rep Power: 2684374	I may be wrong but I thought I read another thread on here that the gen 2 cables have a different outside coating (housing) than the 1st gen. I'm sure others on here can verify if that's correct or if I'm just going crazy. __________________ Fast Intentions "Stage Seb" twin turbo #098- Specialty Z/Tial-Xonarotor/CJM/Ecutek/HKS/KW/SPL/Hotchkis/Rohana/Toyo 700+whp

05-11-2018, 04:59 PM	#11 (permalink)
TBatt Track Member Join Date: Apr 2013 Location: Huntsville, AL Posts: 832 Drives: 2019 GT-R Rep Power: 20168	They look very similar but the wire gauge is larger for the gen 2 cables. The problem with the earlier ones was an intermittent connection. Very hard to test with a multi-meter. One other thing, the SC system just starts making boost at around 3K rpm, so below that it is a NA engine. You need to let the engine warm up before you flog it. The oil will be thick and the oil pressure will be extremely high if you rev it hard while cool. I always get the oil temp up to at least 140 before I start to have some fun. Your engine will thank you. wideglideleon and turtle64b like this. __________________ RJM pedal, Hotchkis Sway Bars, FI TDX, FOG Light, Z1 Slotted Drilled rotors, Stillen SC, Quaife ATB, Z1 Oil cooler, AEM Gauge Set, Galeforce gauge mount, Avant Garde M590 Hypersilver w/RE-11, TopgunZ A2A kit., ECUtek tuned by Seb: ROLL TIDE! Last edited by TBatt; 05-11-2018 at 05:01 PM.

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