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overtureZ 03-21-2018 12:36 PM

Oh I also did section 11 (filter delete) because I'm installing the aeromotive external filter Friday. Could that have any affect on this?

phunk 03-21-2018 01:16 PM

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Originally Posted by overtureZ (Post 3740632)
Oh I also did section 11 (filter delete) because I'm installing the aeromotive external filter Friday. Could that have any affect on this?

:happydance: Boom. There you have it.

This is absolutely your problem. With the filter cut out, you will have to add an external regulator. The stock regulator is spliced off the filter housing. By deleting the filter, the stock regulator is not doing anything at all.

No wonder your engine is flooding so bad.. you have unregulated pressure, as high as the pump can push.

overtureZ 03-21-2018 01:46 PM

Well ****... Oops, What are my options? Can I just slap on a regulator externally without the entire return kit?

phunk 03-21-2018 01:55 PM

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Originally Posted by overtureZ (Post 3740646)
Well ****... Oops, What are my options? Can I just slap on a regulator externally without the entire return kit?

If you did not entirely cut the filter out, and merely bypassed it, then you can put it back how it was and be good to go.

If you did fully chop it out irreversibly, you are not in the best of shape at the moment. When the stock regulator is eliminated, you still have to send bypass fuel into the same port that the stock regulator did. This is to keep the venturi pumps active. We produce the custom fitting for doing this, and we are currently out of stock on them for a couple weeks. You could build a custom return kit but without our return conversion hardware you will have inactive venturis and not be able to run the car below 1/2 - 3/4 tank.

sirnixalot 03-21-2018 02:01 PM

sorry for the side question but its semi relevant

https://cj-motorsports.com/products/...-pump-kit-370z

could you add an option on this for your 4 way tap as well as the option to not get the top hat?

I have the top hat already installed but plan to covert to return and external filter

phunk 03-21-2018 02:14 PM

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Originally Posted by sirnixalot (Post 3740649)
sorry for the side question but its semi relevant

https://cj-motorsports.com/products/...-pump-kit-370z

could you add an option on this for your 4 way tap as well as the option to not get the top hat?

I have the top hat already installed but plan to covert to return and external filter

If you intended to go with our S1.E kit, it will install the same to the billet hat without any custom changes to the order.

If you are planning to build your own RFS: I can configure a custom invoice for those components. We do not want to sell the return conversion pieces outside of a return kit but without the top hat. However if you already have the top hat, than we would gladly permit that.

Although at the moment we are a few weeks out on having those components available again.

bcfromfl 03-21-2018 02:55 PM

I'm dreading this part of the upgrades. Hope I don't get in over my head...

overtureZ 03-21-2018 02:57 PM

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Originally Posted by phunk (Post 3740647)
If you did not entirely cut the filter out, and merely bypassed it, then you can put it back how it was and be good to go.

If you did fully chop it out irreversibly, you are not in the best of shape at the moment. When the stock regulator is eliminated, you still have to send bypass fuel into the same port that the stock regulator did. This is to keep the venturi pumps active. We produce the custom fitting for doing this, and we are currently out of stock on them for a couple weeks. You could build a custom return kit but without our return conversion hardware you will have inactive venturis and not be able to run the car below 1/2 - 3/4 tank.

So what your saying is, I have to buy the return kit?

Or can I remove the basket and mound some plastic to the bottom to seal it back off? Pretty much only deleting the paper filter inside..

phunk 03-21-2018 03:07 PM

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Originally Posted by bcfromfl (Post 3740669)
I'm dreading this part of the upgrades. Hope I don't get in over my head...

Its not too bad. But if you really dont want to do the fuel pump modifications, you can send yours to me and I will build it for you for $85 plus return shipping. I also have cores I can build for $250 core charge, refunded when yours gets back to me.

After the fuel pump is rebuilt and back in the tank, the rest is pretty easy. Just leave yourself a generous amount of time to route the hoses neatly. Routing the hoses takes longer than youd expect by the time you are really satisfied with how they are sitting.

If you take some time to look at the fuel pump housing and consider its layout, it will become less intimidating. It really is pretty simple after you give it some attention: fuel is drawn into the pump through the strainer, it exits the pump through a hose leading into a filter, and then a hose from the filter out the top of the tank (through the plastic flange). Attached on the side of the filter there is a regulator that bleeds pressure out to maintain 52psi. The fuel that the regulator bled out travels to a T fitting where it splits off to 2 different venturis (which are basically just pinholes that create a suction effect). And that is really it. The OP's trouble is that he has eliminated the filter, which also means he has eliminated the regulator, and thus the venturis that follow the regulator.

phunk 03-21-2018 03:08 PM

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Originally Posted by overtureZ (Post 3740673)
So what your saying is, I have to buy the return kit?

Or can I remove the basket and mound some plastic to the bottom to seal it back off? Pretty much only deleting the paper filter inside..

I would have to see exactly what you have left to determine options from here. Ultimately, you need the regulator plumbed into the system, and the fuel leaving the regulator needs to remain plumbed into the venturi passages.

overtureZ 03-21-2018 03:16 PM

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Originally Posted by phunk (Post 3740677)
I would have to see exactly what you have left to determine options from here. Ultimately, you need the regulator plumbed into the system, and the fuel leaving the regulator needs to remain plumbed into the venturi passages.

If you look at section 11 of the instructions, my fuel filter basic is identical to that one shown.

phunk 03-21-2018 03:28 PM

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Originally Posted by overtureZ (Post 3740683)
If you look at section 11 of the instructions, my fuel filter basic is identical to that one shown.

I see. Since the filter is entirely eliminated, there is no practical way to continue using the stock pressure regulator since its housing is built into the filter housing. It would take a custom built regulator housing and in-tank plumbing to re-integrate it... it would be easier to just replace the unit with an unmodified one.

VQStryker 03-21-2018 04:41 PM

Hey I was kind of right :ughdance:

Good thing Phunk came in for the rescue! Just get the the return fuel system, you'll want it eventually anyway and you already have the pump :driving:

overtureZ 03-21-2018 05:24 PM

Ahhh, thank you Phunk! I have sent you a PM inquiring on the return system.

overtureZ 03-21-2018 06:14 PM

Good thing for now those pump assemblies are cheap af on ebay. Got a 13 g37 one for $52. Lessons learned here, READ ENTIRE INSTRUCTION.. LOL

....Now what do I do with this aeromotive filter I bought.. No point in using two filters


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