Fast Intentions Stage 2 TT build by MA-Motorsports.

Spooler · 02-21-2022, 12:09 PM

Don't put it in backwards or that temp sensor will hang up on the surge canister. LOL

Spooler · 02-21-2022, 12:11 PM

I added a washer and put the ground back to where it was before. Fixed it right up. I had to tighten down on the other two allen bolts to make sure the ground wire and washer did not fall off when I removed the stud. Worked like a champ.

Spooler · 02-21-2022, 12:20 PM

As far as aligning the surge canister threaded legs. I use a small jewelers screwdriver and a flashlight to align the canister so I could thread the first allen bolt in place by hand. I had fuel in the tank which made the canister float around and be a little bit of a challenge.

Spooler · 02-28-2022, 11:19 PM

Just got my popcorn out watching the show for a change.

Spooler · 02-28-2022, 11:20 PM

Time for a little funky rhythm.

Spooler · 02-28-2022, 11:37 PM

I sure as hell miss my 1990 300zxtt. That was my dream car. Not a GTR, Corvette, etc. I sold it back in 2000. It was totaled about 4 months afterwards when it was drove into high floodwaters and hydrolocked the engine.

Spooler · 03-04-2022, 01:16 PM

Got stuck on a hill at a traffic light. Car was at 1/4 tank. She spit and sputtered a little bit. Pulled up at my Dew Stop and replenished my supply. Came back out and cranked the car, the fuel pressure was all over the place. I had to put 1 gallon of 93oct in the car. Ethanol content dropped down to E46. Couple miles down the road it started pumping E90 from the other side and my Ethanol content went back up to E78. It didn't like sitting on that hill at a traffic light. Never had any issues until today. I have been at 1/4 tank a couple of times. This is the only oddball incident I have had with the new CJ-Motorsports surge canister.

Spooler · 03-04-2022, 02:32 PM

I must of found a fluke. I drove it yesterday down to 1/4 tank and didn't have any issues. Got on boost and made sure both fuel pumps were on. LOL, I was behind a slow poke, Not for long.

phunk · 03-04-2022, 05:01 PM

I am going to guess that the fuel level sensor is on its way out. When mine was going out several years ago, it would intermittently shift between 2 positions about 1/4 tank worth apart. Sometimes hours apart, sometimes not long at all. Sometimes it would read full tank when I filled it, sometimes it would read less than full.

There are those fill valves on the bottom of the canister.. on level ground it would only take maybe 1", if even, of fuel depth to get to the fuel pumps. So if the tank was quite low, it would be no surprise to have fuel pickup issues on a steep hill since the fuel pump mounting flange is about in the middle of the tank (front to rear) and so is the venturi pickup on the driver side. But since it sounds like it didnt want to run even on level ground until you added fuel, I have to assume that either the tank was legit empty (level sensor reading optimistic), the check valves are blocked (unlikely with such a new installation), or perhaps the fuel pumps are too high (i have seen people slide them all the way up in the pump holder rather than setting them so the pickups are as low as possible)

redondoaveb · 03-04-2022, 05:59 PM

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Originally Posted by phunk

I am going to guess that the fuel level sensor is on its way out. When mine was going out several years ago, it would intermittently shift between 2 positions about 1/4 tank worth apart. Sometimes hours apart, sometimes not long at all. Sometimes it would read full tank when I filled it, sometimes it would read less than full.

There are those fill valves on the bottom of the canister.. on level ground it would only take maybe 1", if even, of fuel depth to get to the fuel pumps. So if the tank was quite low, it would be no surprise to have fuel pickup issues on a steep hill since the fuel pump mounting flange is about in the middle of the tank (front to rear) and so is the venturi pickup on the driver side. But since it sounds like it didnt want to run even on level ground until you added fuel, I have to assume that either the tank was legit empty (level sensor reading optimistic), the check valves are blocked (unlikely with such a new installation), or perhaps the fuel pumps are too high (i have seen people slide them all the way up in the pump holder rather than setting them so the pickups are as low as possible)

Here's where my pumps are set

Spooler · 03-04-2022, 07:19 PM

I was nose down to the drivers side at the traffic light. I then had to go up a hill. It spit at me 2 times going up the hill. I think it was just a fluke. If I would have keep driving it would have transferred fuel back to the passenger side. Instead, I parked at the store. I could have a sensor going out. It has been acting strange since I got the surge canister back in. No worries from me. I hardly ever let it get down to 1/4 tank anyways. I was doing it to test it out.

Spooler · 03-04-2022, 07:24 PM

I put 15 gallons of E90 in it and I still had 2 dots not showing. That sounds a little off. From what I remember before at 2 dots it would take 17 gallons to fill it up.

BettyZ · 03-04-2022, 08:07 PM

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Originally Posted by Spooler

I added a washer and put the ground back to where it was before. Fixed it right up. I had to tighten down on the other two allen bolts to make sure the ground wire and washer did not fall off when I removed the stud. Worked like a champ.

I had the same issue with forgetting to tighten up the other two allen bolts before I pulled the stud with the ground on it lol

Spooler · 03-05-2022, 01:09 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by BettyZ

I had the same issue with forgetting to tighten up the other two allen bolts before I pulled the stud with the ground on it lol

I didn't forget. That is how I did it. I just wanted to pass it along.

Spooler · 03-18-2022, 11:12 AM

02-21-2022, 12:11 PM	#4997 (permalink)
Spooler A True Z Fanatic Join Date: Jun 2014 Location: Ga Posts: 13,791 Drives: 2013 Nismo 370z Rep Power: 2684392	I added a washer and put the ground back to where it was before. Fixed it right up. I had to tighten down on the other two allen bolts to make sure the ground wire and washer did not fall off when I removed the stud. Worked like a champ. phunk, Rusty and BettyZ like this.

02-21-2022, 12:20 PM	#4998 (permalink)
Spooler A True Z Fanatic Join Date: Jun 2014 Location: Ga Posts: 13,791 Drives: 2013 Nismo 370z Rep Power: 2684392	As far as aligning the surge canister threaded legs. I use a small jewelers screwdriver and a flashlight to align the canister so I could thread the first allen bolt in place by hand. I had fuel in the tank which made the canister float around and be a little bit of a challenge. Rusty likes this. Last edited by Spooler; 02-21-2022 at 12:24 PM.

02-28-2022, 11:37 PM	#5001 (permalink)
Spooler A True Z Fanatic Join Date: Jun 2014 Location: Ga Posts: 13,791 Drives: 2013 Nismo 370z Rep Power: 2684392	I sure as hell miss my 1990 300zxtt. That was my dream car. Not a GTR, Corvette, etc. I sold it back in 2000. It was totaled about 4 months afterwards when it was drove into high floodwaters and hydrolocked the engine. FL 4Motion likes this.

03-04-2022, 01:16 PM	#5002 (permalink)
Spooler A True Z Fanatic Join Date: Jun 2014 Location: Ga Posts: 13,791 Drives: 2013 Nismo 370z Rep Power: 2684392	Got stuck on a hill at a traffic light. Car was at 1/4 tank. She spit and sputtered a little bit. Pulled up at my Dew Stop and replenished my supply. Came back out and cranked the car, the fuel pressure was all over the place. I had to put 1 gallon of 93oct in the car. Ethanol content dropped down to E46. Couple miles down the road it started pumping E90 from the other side and my Ethanol content went back up to E78. It didn't like sitting on that hill at a traffic light. Never had any issues until today. I have been at 1/4 tank a couple of times. This is the only oddball incident I have had with the new CJ-Motorsports surge canister. BOLIO 671, Hotrodz, johnxxx and 1 others like this.

03-04-2022, 02:32 PM	#5003 (permalink)
Spooler A True Z Fanatic Join Date: Jun 2014 Location: Ga Posts: 13,791 Drives: 2013 Nismo 370z Rep Power: 2684392	I must of found a fluke. I drove it yesterday down to 1/4 tank and didn't have any issues. Got on boost and made sure both fuel pumps were on. LOL, I was behind a slow poke, Not for long. Hotrodz, johnxxx and redondoaveb like this. Last edited by Spooler; 03-04-2022 at 02:45 PM.

02-21-2022, 12:09 PM	#4996 (permalink)
Spooler A True Z Fanatic Join Date: Jun 2014 Location: Ga Posts: 13,791 Drives: 2013 Nismo 370z Rep Power: 2684392	Don't put it in backwards or that temp sensor will hang up on the surge canister. LOL

02-28-2022, 11:19 PM	#4999 (permalink)
Spooler A True Z Fanatic Join Date: Jun 2014 Location: Ga Posts: 13,791 Drives: 2013 Nismo 370z Rep Power: 2684392	Just got my popcorn out watching the show for a change.

02-28-2022, 11:20 PM	#5000 (permalink)
Spooler A True Z Fanatic Join Date: Jun 2014 Location: Ga Posts: 13,791 Drives: 2013 Nismo 370z Rep Power: 2684392	Time for a little funky rhythm.

03-04-2022, 05:01 PM	#5004 (permalink)
phunk A True Z Fanatic Join Date: Mar 2009 Location: Chicago Posts: 3,668 Drives: 370 Rep Power: 974723	I am going to guess that the fuel level sensor is on its way out. When mine was going out several years ago, it would intermittently shift between 2 positions about 1/4 tank worth apart. Sometimes hours apart, sometimes not long at all. Sometimes it would read full tank when I filled it, sometimes it would read less than full. There are those fill valves on the bottom of the canister.. on level ground it would only take maybe 1", if even, of fuel depth to get to the fuel pumps. So if the tank was quite low, it would be no surprise to have fuel pickup issues on a steep hill since the fuel pump mounting flange is about in the middle of the tank (front to rear) and so is the venturi pickup on the driver side. But since it sounds like it didnt want to run even on level ground until you added fuel, I have to assume that either the tank was legit empty (level sensor reading optimistic), the check valves are blocked (unlikely with such a new installation), or perhaps the fuel pumps are too high (i have seen people slide them all the way up in the pump holder rather than setting them so the pickups are as low as possible) JARblue, Rusty, Hotrodz and 2 others like this. __________________ Charles @ CJ Motorsports : Website \| Facebook \| Instagram \| YouTube Home of the 9 second, stock longblock, stock drivetrain 6MT 370z. 9.91 @ 142mph

03-04-2022, 07:19 PM	#5006 (permalink)
Spooler A True Z Fanatic Join Date: Jun 2014 Location: Ga Posts: 13,791 Drives: 2013 Nismo 370z Rep Power: 2684392	I was nose down to the drivers side at the traffic light. I then had to go up a hill. It spit at me 2 times going up the hill. I think it was just a fluke. If I would have keep driving it would have transferred fuel back to the passenger side. Instead, I parked at the store. I could have a sensor going out. It has been acting strange since I got the surge canister back in. No worries from me. I hardly ever let it get down to 1/4 tank anyways. I was doing it to test it out. Hotrodz and johnxxx like this.

03-04-2022, 07:24 PM	#5007 (permalink)
Spooler A True Z Fanatic Join Date: Jun 2014 Location: Ga Posts: 13,791 Drives: 2013 Nismo 370z Rep Power: 2684392	I put 15 gallons of E90 in it and I still had 2 dots not showing. That sounds a little off. From what I remember before at 2 dots it would take 17 gallons to fill it up. Hotrodz and johnxxx like this.

03-18-2022, 11:12 AM	#5010 (permalink)
Spooler A True Z Fanatic Join Date: Jun 2014 Location: Ga Posts: 13,791 Drives: 2013 Nismo 370z Rep Power: 2684392

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