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Originally Posted by Elmo370z I had one shortly after. It’s a weak cast design. And the gtr did kill the VQ. It was far superior in all ways, transmission, block,

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Old 11-21-2021, 09:48 AM   #1 (permalink)
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I had one shortly after. It’s a weak cast design. And the gtr did kill the VQ. It was far superior in all ways, transmission, block, engine, and Ecu.
I don’t know about nowadays with older used gtr’s, but during the first few years of its release, most gtr owners were buying down, not buying up to get the gtr, they were curious about all the hype.

Since the majority of these r35 owners were coming from vettes, Porsches, even adding to Ferrari and Lamborghini stables, there was lots of real $$ flying around for a car that came factory TT’d with for the time otherworldly handling, platform etc.

Most shops saw an opportunity to make real money from folks with deep pockets with many more higher end builds on the gtr platform and the return on investment was/is bigger. I’m mean that’s just Econ 101 principles at work.

With enough time and money anything is possible. The z34 development is way further along than I could have ever imagined 8-10 years ago. At that elite top 5% build level there are better platforms for the money but you can make that argument about almost any car.

Speaking strictly for myself, I only provide a contrarian/devil’s advocate pov on here periodically bc I consider spooler to be a forum friend. A real friend will tell you their honest opinion not just be a yes man or egg you on for entertainment.

Also, the best way to reach a good decision on almost anything important is to always try and see the problem from all angles including the ones you don’t want to hear or like, it’ll help (spooler in this case) have the best chance of not missing something.

Oh, and I like to give him a bit of a good natured hard time once in a while.
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I don’t know about nowadays with older used gtr’s, but during the first few years of its release, most gtr owners were buying down, not buying up to get the gtr, they were curious about all the hype.

Since the majority of these r35 owners were coming from vettes, Porsches, even adding to Ferrari and Lamborghini stables, there was lots of real $$ flying around for a car that came factory TT’d with for the time otherworldly handling, platform etc.

Most shops saw an opportunity to make real money from folks with deep pockets with many more higher end builds on the gtr platform and the return on investment was/is bigger. I’m mean that’s just Econ 101 principles at work.
Exactly 100% correct considering you could get a new GTR back then when it first came out for 70k. That is what created the demand for all these shops and aftermarket companies jump on it. The development of the platform benefited greatly from this now the base price for a new GTR is over 110k MSRP. The car is no longer the bargain it used to be it never killed the Z34 development.
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I don’t know about nowadays with older used gtr’s, but during the first few years of its release, most gtr owners were buying down, not buying up to get the gtr, they were curious about all the hype.

Since the majority of these r35 owners were coming from vettes, Porsches, even adding to Ferrari and Lamborghini stables, there was lots of real $$ flying around for a car that came factory TT’d with for the time otherworldly handling, platform etc.

Most shops saw an opportunity to make real money from folks with deep pockets with many more higher end builds on the gtr platform and the return on investment was/is bigger. I’m mean that’s just Econ 101 principles at work.

With enough time and money anything is possible. The z34 development is way further along than I could have ever imagined 8-10 years ago. At that elite top 5% build level there are better platforms for the money but you can make that argument about almost any car.

Speaking strictly for myself, I only provide a contrarian/devil’s advocate pov on here periodically bc I consider spooler to be a forum friend. A real friend will tell you their honest opinion not just be a yes man or egg you on for entertainment.

Also, the best way to reach a good decision on almost anything important is to always try and see the problem from all angles including the ones you don’t want to hear or like, it’ll help (spooler in this case) have the best chance of not missing something.

Oh, and I like to give him a bit of a good natured hard time once in a while.
Those lambo, Ferrari owners is what drives the aftermarket to throw money into development of a platform. We don’t have that crazy Honda fan base that will throw child support money into a build while there babies are running around in dirty diapers. Z34 development pretty much dead in the water. Soho is the only company pushing the platform to hold big power. Facts you still have a huge majority of the community thinking an open deck block and head studs will hold anything 800whp is proof.
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Those lambo, Ferrari owners is what drives the aftermarket to throw money into development of a platform. We don’t have that crazy Honda fan base that will throw child support money into a build while there babies are running around in dirty diapers. Z34 development pretty much dead in the water. Soho is the only company pushing the platform to hold big power. Facts you still have a huge majority of the community thinking an open deck block and head studs will hold anything 800whp is proof.
Maybe not kill the development. But severely slow the process down.
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