Fast Intentions Stage 2 TT build by MA-Motorsports.

Spooler

I may just say F it and go for 1200whp..... I just need the right turbo's.

DrBacon

Stock ecu is still okay up to those levels of power?

Shame there's no real practical aftermarket options.

Spooler

Yes, the motor has always been the issue. Getting that fixed. Traction, LOL, that will be another story. I got some tricks up my sleeve for that. I need to get past keeping the motor alive to figure all that out.

FL 4Motion

If you keep upping your power goals, then this THIRD built motor may not survive.

I know you’re gonna say hat this new motor will be built enough to have the head room (or should I say head lift) for it. But I’m pretty sure you said the same about at least one of the last two.


PS - just kidding about the head lift, I know you can be a bit sensitive sometimes.

husam2012

If you think you need more power than 900whp, then the VQ is definitely not the best motor to stick with. Out of thousands of builds, they have proven to be unreliable.

VR can be built for 15-20k to handle 1500whp, it's a no brainer. The VQ37VHR ECU might be able to control it with VVEL deleted aswell.

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SteveVQ

Whoa whoa whoa whoa, $20K for a 1500HP VR?

You have any links to back that up? Very curious, if true I may trade in the 370 for the "Nissan Z" when it comes out.

If the VR has that kind of potential... it seems like a no brainer to me too.

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husam2012

I didn't mean the bastard VR in the new Z and Q60, that motor is junk with really bad flowing heads, rail and injector issues and is open deck.

The VR38 has been proven time and time again, every drift/time attack boosted VQ ended up switching motors as the VQ kept having head issues. If those teams with almost unlimited budgets gave up, then why would someone as a customer keep trying?

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SteveVQ

Of course, should of known better, GTR motor swap.

So in reality, still looking at close to six figures when all is said and done.

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Spooler

I think you are leaving out the most important part. A junk yard long block VR38 is 15k. Then, if you need to bore it you will need a new block from Nissan. So the real numbers are 30k to 35k. I don't care for motor swaps anyway.
Beside, most folks don't build the VQ correctly anyways. They cheap out big time and expect it to hold.

Elmo370z

There is, called a stand-alone.

Spooler

Name one SOHO motor that has lifted the heads with top fuel hoops.

Spooler

You know I want one. I just need to get past the damn motor holding together.

Spooler

Ah, those drift guys want the motors for free. They are sponsored by the engine builders. Chris Forsberg was sponsored by RJM back in the day. We all know what kind of guy Bobby is. I will just leave it at that.

DrBacon

I'm aware they exist but there's no "affordable" drop in replacements unlike our earlier Z brothers.

From my 10 minutes of research you get:

Syvecs which seems to be the best option but it's also 5k
Motec looks promising but needs a harness (supposedly you can buy a harness for this one though, unlike Haltech)
Haltech requires a custom harness to be made
Link can't control vvel

Which also doesn't include trying to find a competent tuner who knows a VQ and can tune on these other platforms as well. Most specialized vq tuners are pretty well dedicated to uprev/ecutek. I'm sure they're out there but yeah...

Elmo370z

You’re 100% wrong. Wayne Potts didn’t get all that involved with syvecs, T1 killed that program. Haltech does control Vvel, motec is plug n play. Expensive. So is rebuilding motors, turbo kits and supporting mods. This is the problem with the VQ community. Why this platform is stuck in a rut for the last 13 years.