Fast Intentions Stage 2 TT build by MA-Motorsports.

Spooler · 11-05-2021, 04:19 PM

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Originally Posted by gbrettin

I read up since 10/25. Sucks to hear about the engine. I'm shocked that there wasn't a fail safe built into the tune. Oh well, not going to help now.

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Also think it's cool as heck you are sharing the complete build. That's exactly what I'm doing with my LS thread on this forum too. Someone will pick out useful bits of information, and that's awesome.

No failsafe that you can write for lifting the heads. LOL It goes into the chit happens box.

Spooler · 11-05-2021, 04:20 PM

I am leaning toward keeping my existing turbo's and upgrading my trans to hold more abuse. My trans has been on borrow time for a long long time. LOL, I almost forgot about the stock drive shaft. Need one of those too.

Spooler · 11-05-2021, 04:26 PM

I need to do something with the trans before it eats itself. More like explodes. LMAO

Spooler · 11-05-2021, 10:34 PM

The thing with an MLS headgasket is when the heads start lifting they will seal back up. They will gradually get worse and worse, then boom. If you have a pressurized coolant system you have somewhere for the coolant to go and when done it will be sucked back into the engine via the return. You will never know it until it goes boom. I was lucky this time. I caught it way before then.

Spooler · 11-06-2021, 12:33 AM

I have been looking at GTR forums trying to figure out how they are getting as much WHP out of their cars with smaller turbos. The only thing I really see is they are running massive intercoolers. 6in. deep cores and 3in piping. How the heck are they making those smaller turbos work?

Rusty · 11-06-2021, 12:48 AM

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Originally Posted by Spooler

I need to do something with the trans before it eats itself. More like explodes. LMAO

Most likely. You'll twist the input shaft into 2 pieces and then over rev the motor.

Rusty · 11-06-2021, 12:49 AM

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Originally Posted by Spooler

All the research I have done says to go up in turbo size and keep the same .82 AR on the exhaust side. It will out perform my current turbos with the larger exhaust housing and have the same response (lag). I will gain a larger compressor wheel and correct the high IAT's also. I will also gain more whp.

Driving yourself crazy.

Spooler · 11-06-2021, 01:47 AM

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Originally Posted by Rusty

Driving yourself crazy.

Nah, think about it every couple of days and give it a break for a while. That's what I do.

FL 4Motion · 11-06-2021, 09:32 AM

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Originally Posted by Spooler

I am leaning toward keeping my existing turbo's and upgrading my trans to hold more abuse. My trans has been on borrow time for a long long time. LOL, I almost forgot about the stock drive shaft. Need one of those too.

Have you installed a driveshaft loop yet?

Spooler · 11-06-2021, 01:47 PM

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Originally Posted by FL 4Motion

Have you installed a driveshaft loop yet?

No, it is not a 1/4 mile drag car and I do not launch it. If I did the input shaft would break.

Spooler · 11-06-2021, 10:52 PM

No joke stick shift 1/4 mile record was set.

Mr.Squeeze · 11-07-2021, 12:45 PM

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Originally Posted by Spooler

I have been looking at GTR forums trying to figure out how they are getting as much WHP out of their cars with smaller turbos. The only thing I really see is they are running massive intercoolers. 6in. deep cores and 3in piping. How the heck are they making those smaller turbos work?

They all run 4.5 inch intercooler cores if you look up the specs for any of the race intercoolers that's the thickness. They also run 3.5 inch intakes to the turbos 3.0-3.5 inlets from the intercooler to throttle bodies and 3.5 inch twin down pipes. They rarely run small A/R on the turbine side and choke them. This is why there are so many of them riding around with 800 plus WHP on pump 93 they have been doing this for years.

gbrettin · 11-07-2021, 06:58 PM

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Originally Posted by Spooler

No failsafe that you can write for lifting the heads. LOL It goes into the chit happens box.

I'm not sure what you are doing for an ECU, but I know you can 100% monitor that with MS3Pro and a Rife combo sensor (pressure and temp). Then a trigger can be set to take your car to limp mode of your choosing. If you currently don't have that functionality then you may have found a great reason to upgrade.

Spooler · 11-07-2021, 07:03 PM

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Originally Posted by gbrettin

I'm not sure what you are doing for an ECU, but I know you can 100% monitor that with MS3Pro and a Rife combo sensor (pressure and temp). If you currently don't have that functionality then you may have found a great reason to upgrade.

A pressure sensor only tells you when they lift. It won't prevent it. Once they lift, they keep getting worse and worse with a MLS. No combo of ECU will prevent it. Once it is done, it is done.

gbrettin · 11-08-2021, 10:08 AM

Sounds like you got it all figured out. Good luck.

11-05-2021, 04:20 PM	#4727 (permalink)
Spooler A True Z Fanatic Join Date: Jun 2014 Location: Ga Posts: 13,798 Drives: 2013 Nismo 370z Rep Power: 2684392	I am leaning toward keeping my existing turbo's and upgrading my trans to hold more abuse. My trans has been on borrow time for a long long time. LOL, I almost forgot about the stock drive shaft. Need one of those too. FL 4Motion, JARblue, Rusty and 3 others like this.

11-05-2021, 04:26 PM	#4728 (permalink)
Spooler A True Z Fanatic Join Date: Jun 2014 Location: Ga Posts: 13,798 Drives: 2013 Nismo 370z Rep Power: 2684392	I need to do something with the trans before it eats itself. More like explodes. LMAO JARblue, Rusty, old guy and 1 others like this.

11-05-2021, 10:34 PM	#4729 (permalink)
Spooler A True Z Fanatic Join Date: Jun 2014 Location: Ga Posts: 13,798 Drives: 2013 Nismo 370z Rep Power: 2684392	The thing with an MLS headgasket is when the heads start lifting they will seal back up. They will gradually get worse and worse, then boom. If you have a pressurized coolant system you have somewhere for the coolant to go and when done it will be sucked back into the engine via the return. You will never know it until it goes boom. I was lucky this time. I caught it way before then. Rusty and old guy like this.

11-06-2021, 10:52 PM	#4736 (permalink)
Spooler A True Z Fanatic Join Date: Jun 2014 Location: Ga Posts: 13,798 Drives: 2013 Nismo 370z Rep Power: 2684392	No joke stick shift 1/4 mile record was set. Rusty, Optimiser, old guy and 2 others like this.

11-08-2021, 10:08 AM	#4740 (permalink)
gbrettin A True Z Fanatic Join Date: Oct 2010 Location: Portage, MI Posts: 2,281 Drives: Tricycle Rep Power: 589151	Sounds like you got it all figured out. Good luck. FL 4Motion, Hotrodz and BettyZ like this.

11-06-2021, 12:33 AM	#4730 (permalink)
Spooler A True Z Fanatic Join Date: Jun 2014 Location: Ga Posts: 13,798 Drives: 2013 Nismo 370z Rep Power: 2684392	I have been looking at GTR forums trying to figure out how they are getting as much WHP out of their cars with smaller turbos. The only thing I really see is they are running massive intercoolers. 6in. deep cores and 3in piping. How the heck are they making those smaller turbos work?

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