Fast Intentions Stage 2 TT build by MA-Motorsports.

Rid3_FaM0uS · 03-14-2018, 09:16 AM

I mean if we’re being honest there are several possible reasons we don’t hear much about it. 1st and foremost being the lack of cars in that power range. I would wager someone a good $1000 that there is, absolutely, no more than 20-25 800+whp z34/g37 VQ37 powered cars in the entirety of the world currently. The people who are there most of them likely tight lipped or shop builds(which often times leaves owners out of the loop if they aren’t familiar with engine building/failures). Two(which happened to be my case) no one wants to build this engine 10 times over, failure after failure, scratching your head wondering where the hell youre going wrong; when you’re doing everything the way it should be. Most people driven that far would probably just give up anyway. Another reason being the shops that are aware of this don’t want to share the secret. If you’re always giving away what you know then it becomes increasingly hard to stay one step ahead. Sounds selfish, but it’s business. I happen to have learned the hard way whilst staying dedicated. I would just hate to see someone else wind up on the same path, when for a small fee of $1500(which was about the average cost of each of the 7 or 8 initial times I rebuilt the motor), you can have an insurance that 110% prevents you from this. My high compression 930whp RJM closed deck engine was running like a champ when it let go, and there’s not a doubt in my mind at all that it would still be going strong had I not suffered severe con rod failures that led to a total loss of the engine.

Spooler · 03-14-2018, 09:35 AM

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Originally Posted by Rid3_FaM0uS

I mean if we’re being honest there are several possible reasons we don’t hear much about it. 1st and foremost being the lack of cars in that power range. I would wager someone a good $1000 that there is, absolutely, no more than 20-25 800+whp z34/g37 VQ37 powered cars in the entirety of the world currently. The people who are there most of them likely tight lipped or shop builds(which often times leaves owners out of the loop if they aren’t familiar with engine building/failures). Two(which happened to be my case) no one wants to build this engine 10 times over, failure after failure, scratching your head wondering where the hell youre going wrong; when you’re doing everything the way it should be. Most people driven that far would probably just give up anyway. Another reason being the shops that are aware of this don’t want to share the secret. If you’re always giving away what you know then it becomes increasingly hard to stay one step ahead. Sounds selfish, but it’s business. I happen to have learned the hard way whilst staying dedicated. I would just hate to see someone else wind up on the same path, when for a small fee of $1500(which was about the average cost of each of the 7 or 8 initial times I rebuilt the motor), you can have an insurance that 110% prevents you from this. My high compression 930whp RJM closed deck engine was running like a champ when it let go, and there’s not a doubt in my mind at all that it would still be going strong had I not suffered severe con rod failures that led to a total loss of the engine.

So what are you doing now? Giving up or going to do it one more time at a lower power level?
Thanks for the heads up. I would be aggravated to say the least.

Rid3_FaM0uS · 03-14-2018, 11:32 AM

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Originally Posted by Spooler

So what are you doing now? Giving up or going to do it one more time at a lower power level?
Thanks for the heads up. I would be aggravated to say the least.

Remember that rabbit hole the guys kept telling you about? You can find me down there.
Way.
Way.
Down there (if you know what I mean). Until I no longer have the desire to do so... I will ALWAYS push this platform. Further, bigger, badder.

Hotrodz · 03-14-2018, 12:13 PM

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Originally Posted by Rid3_FaM0uS

Remember that rabbit hole the guys kept telling you about? You can find me down there.
Way.
Way.
Down there (if you know what I mean). Until I no longer have the desire to do so... I will ALWAYS push this platform. Further, bigger, badder.

The rabbit hole is full of shiny things and I like shiny things. I tell my self no but they have power over me. Unfortunately I think Rusty is right, I will be done when there is no more money.

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Spooler · 03-14-2018, 12:29 PM

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Originally Posted by Hotrodz

The rabbit hole is full of shiny things and I like shiny things. I tell my self no but they have power over me. Unfortunately I think Rusty is right, I will be done when there is no more money.

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I like shinny things.

Rusty · 03-14-2018, 01:49 PM

When I was running my '78 Trans Am. I went through 4 Pontiac 400 motors. I was trying to increase the power level each time, but only to find the next weak point. Not too many people at the time was sharing or willing to share info on how to keep the motor together. So after 4 motors. I switched to big block chevy. Problems solved.

Spooler · 03-17-2018, 10:35 PM

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Originally Posted by Rid3_FaM0uS

Remember that rabbit hole the guys kept telling you about? You can find me down there.
Way.
Way.
Down there (if you know what I mean). Until I no longer have the desire to do so... I will ALWAYS push this platform. Further, bigger, badder.

One more question. Did you heat cycle the engine and tear it back apart to re-torque the head studs? That is the most important thing in the diesel world to keep a head gasket sealed up tight when using ARP studs. Many folks had failures if they left off this step. The ARP 425 could take 3 heat cycles before they wouldn't move any more. That is why ARP came out with 625's, they only need one heat cycle and re-torque.

Spooler · 03-17-2018, 10:40 PM

This guy came up with a unique way of heat cycling a 2JZ. You would have to do something similar with our engines or it would be a complete pain in the butt.

blueranger · 03-24-2018, 12:37 AM

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Originally Posted by Rid3_FaM0uS

My high compression 930whp RJM closed deck engine was running like a champ when it let go, and there’s not a doubt in my mind at all that it would still be going strong had I not suffered severe con rod failures that led to a total loss of the engine.

Sorry to hear... What rod brand?

03-14-2018, 09:16 AM	#1 (permalink)
Rid3_FaM0uS Track Member Join Date: Apr 2012 Location: Wapakoneta, Ohio Posts: 506 Drives: 2011 BS Nismo 370z Rep Power: 45	I mean if we’re being honest there are several possible reasons we don’t hear much about it. 1st and foremost being the lack of cars in that power range. I would wager someone a good $1000 that there is, absolutely, no more than 20-25 800+whp z34/g37 VQ37 powered cars in the entirety of the world currently. The people who are there most of them likely tight lipped or shop builds(which often times leaves owners out of the loop if they aren’t familiar with engine building/failures). Two(which happened to be my case) no one wants to build this engine 10 times over, failure after failure, scratching your head wondering where the hell youre going wrong; when you’re doing everything the way it should be. Most people driven that far would probably just give up anyway. Another reason being the shops that are aware of this don’t want to share the secret. If you’re always giving away what you know then it becomes increasingly hard to stay one step ahead. Sounds selfish, but it’s business. I happen to have learned the hard way whilst staying dedicated. I would just hate to see someone else wind up on the same path, when for a small fee of $1500(which was about the average cost of each of the 7 or 8 initial times I rebuilt the motor), you can have an insurance that 110% prevents you from this. My high compression 930whp RJM closed deck engine was running like a champ when it let go, and there’s not a doubt in my mind at all that it would still be going strong had I not suffered severe con rod failures that led to a total loss of the engine. GeauxTigers1, Rusty, Hotrodz and 3 others like this. __________________ Always under construction. . .

03-14-2018, 01:49 PM	#6 (permalink)
Rusty Ronin Samurai - Assassin Join Date: Dec 2011 Location: Fayettenam,Pennsyltucky Age: 69 Posts: 35,385 Drives: 2011 Nismo GM 6M Rep Power: 2684438	When I was running my '78 Trans Am. I went through 4 Pontiac 400 motors. I was trying to increase the power level each time, but only to find the next weak point. Not too many people at the time was sharing or willing to share info on how to keep the motor together. So after 4 motors. I switched to big block chevy. Problems solved. Hotrodz likes this. __________________ 浪人 - 殺し屋 "The Difficult Anytime, The Impossible By Appointment Only" http://www.the370z.com/members-370z-...o-journal.html Last edited by Rusty; 03-14-2018 at 01:53 PM.

03-17-2018, 10:40 PM	#8 (permalink)
Spooler A True Z Fanatic Join Date: Jun 2014 Location: Ga Posts: 14,000 Drives: 2013 Nismo 370z Rep Power: 2684393	This guy came up with a unique way of heat cycling a 2JZ. You would have to do something similar with our engines or it would be a complete pain in the butt. blueranger likes this.

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