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GeauxTigers1 01-05-2021 11:09 PM

Thanks for putting this all together Derick so we can all benefit! LOL!

Spooler 01-06-2021 07:36 AM

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Originally Posted by GeauxTigers1 (Post 3980282)
Thanks for putting this all together Derick so we can all benefit! LOL!

I am trying my best. We have 7 people. Elmo370z is out.

Spooler 01-06-2021 07:58 AM

Some of you guys might be wondering why I am all over the intake. Well, I was out driving the other day and only hit 16psi of boost on my 17psi setting. I am just about positive my plastic manifold is leaking. Exact same thing happened to Solidius over time.
They don't blow up, they leak.

Spooler 01-06-2021 09:36 AM

Called SOHO, they are working up the price. Will be a little bit for that to happen. Lead time will be about 2 months as long as the COVID19 doesn't cause any delays. Will get more
details later and confirm the lead time.

SeeThruHead 01-06-2021 09:48 AM

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Originally Posted by Spooler (Post 3980323)
Called SOHO, they are working up the price. Will be a little bit for that to happen. Lead time will be about 2 months as long as the COVID19 doesn't cause any delays. Will get more
details later and confirm the lead time.

I think it would be pretty ridiculous if the first thing I bought for my stock base model is this intake. Not too ridiculous for me to actually do it tho, if the price is too good to pass up. :ugh2:

Spooler 01-06-2021 10:55 AM

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Originally Posted by SeeThruHead (Post 3980324)
I think it would be pretty ridiculous if the first thing I bought for my stock base model is this intake. Not too ridiculous for me to actually do it tho, if the price is too good to pass up. :ugh2:

If you are NA it is not worth it. If you are going turbo in the future then it may be. It depends on what you are doing and your goals.

SeeThruHead 01-06-2021 11:01 AM

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Originally Posted by Spooler (Post 3980329)
If you are NA it is not worth it. If you are going turbo in the future then it may be. It depends on what you are doing and your goals.

yeah definitely going boost eventually. I also really want a unique and interesting engine bay. That plastic plenum has to go. I know i'm going to replace it eventually so might as well jump on a group buy.

Spooler 01-06-2021 11:03 AM

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Originally Posted by SeeThruHead (Post 3980331)
yeah definitely going boost eventually. I also really want a unique and interesting engine bay. That plastic plenum has to go. I know i'm going to replace it eventually so might as well jump on a group buy.

OK, will let you know the detail when ready. You will make #8.

Rusty 01-06-2021 01:50 PM

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Originally Posted by Spooler (Post 3980332)
OK, will let you know the detail when ready. You will make #8.

I'm sitting on the fence. Depending on the price. I might pull a Jar.

Spooler 01-06-2021 02:08 PM

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Originally Posted by Rusty (Post 3980353)
I'm sitting on the fence. Depending on the price. I might pull a Jar.

WHAT???????? You are kidding, right? It looks like the price will be around $2500 or a little less. If you bought it individually it would be $4000.

JARblue 01-06-2021 02:48 PM

I think he meant he's considering getting in on the group buy so he can display it in a box on a shelf in his garage.

cv129 01-06-2021 05:57 PM

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Originally Posted by JARblue (Post 3980358)
I think he meant he's considering getting in on the group buy so he can display it in a box on a shelf in his garage.

Hey nothing wrong with that....anticipation can lead to heightened pleasure....;)

GeauxTigers1 01-06-2021 06:39 PM

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Originally Posted by Spooler (Post 3980356)
WHAT???????? You are kidding, right? It looks like the price will be around $2500 or a little less. If you bought it individually it would be $4000.

daaaamn! That's crazy, $4k usually? I'm excited to see the final price but I'm in for sure if it's where you're saying. Just lmk!

Spooler 01-06-2021 06:47 PM

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Originally Posted by GeauxTigers1 (Post 3980382)
daaaamn! That's crazy, $4k usually? I'm excited to see the final price but I'm in for sure if it's where you're saying. Just lmk!

SOHO called the vender today that makes it. I hope to hear back tomorrow.

Spooler 01-07-2021 02:21 PM

No news yet. Still waiting.

Whjaxn17 01-07-2021 11:30 PM

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Originally Posted by GeauxTigers1 (Post 3980382)
daaaamn! That's crazy, $4k usually? I'm excited to see the final price but I'm in for sure if it's where you're saying. Just lmk!

I think that was a typo. Nik told me $3k.

Spooler 01-07-2021 11:38 PM

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Originally Posted by Whjaxn17 (Post 3980588)
I think that was a typo. Nik told me $3k.

I have been priced 4k and 3k for a single. Who knows. It will be a better deal than buying a single unit.

Whjaxn17 01-08-2021 08:25 AM

Nik told me he'd make a Facebook and Instagram post about it.

I called to check in when I saw there were 8 people in on it. The group buy savings will justify going ahead and getting it, though my stock waffle isn't necessarily in danger...yet.

Spooler 01-08-2021 08:38 AM

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Originally Posted by Whjaxn17 (Post 3980619)
Nik told me he'd make a Facebook and Instagram post about it.

I called to check in when I saw there were 8 people in on it. The group buy savings will justify going ahead and getting it, though my stock waffle isn't necessarily in danger...yet.

Yeah, he is waiting to hear back from the folks who make it. Still waiting on the pricing. Lots of pent up demand for it.

Whjaxn17 01-08-2021 04:22 PM

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Originally Posted by Spooler (Post 3980624)
Yeah, he is waiting to hear back from the folks who make it. Still waiting on the pricing. Lots of pent up demand for it.

Several people on Facebook asking about it for an NA car. Doubt they'll cough it up, but there's no published info on it anywhere. Maybe they'll include all that in the post.

Spooler 01-08-2021 07:12 PM

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Originally Posted by Whjaxn17 (Post 3980671)
Several people on Facebook asking about it for an NA car. Don't they'll cough it up, but there's no published info on it anywhere. Maybe they'll include all the in the post.

I doubt it. We are all lined up because turbo cars have a limit. Once the headgasket issue is fixed the next problem is the plastic intake. I will retune to 30psi and boost by gear. I want to hear those turbo's sing...

GeauxTigers1 01-09-2021 05:11 PM

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Originally Posted by Spooler (Post 3980684)
I doubt it. We are all lined up because turbo cars have a limit. Once the headgasket issue is fixed the next problem is the plastic intake. I will retune to 30psi and boost by gear. I want to hear those turbo's sing...

soho actually confirmed resolved the head gasket issue (although I think you did as well with your latest build) but they blew a few headgaskets testing things out to specifically dial in what was causing the issue.

Spooler 01-09-2021 05:47 PM

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Originally Posted by GeauxTigers1 (Post 3980793)
soho actually confirmed resolved the head gasket issue (although I think you did as well with your latest build) but they blew a few headgaskets testing things out to specifically dial in what was causing the issue.

I am good. I have ran 25psi many many times on the street and the car was tuned on the dyno at 25psi. No issues. Engine builder asked why I didn't turn it up to 30psi and that I was good to do so. There were some grumblings coming from me about the plastic intake. I asked him to make one. Which he can damn well do. He just has no time at the moment with all the work in his shop going on. If this falls through I may resort to bribery or buy the CJ Motorsport one.

GeauxTigers1 01-10-2021 02:09 AM

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Originally Posted by Spooler (Post 3980801)
I am good. I have ran 25psi many many times on the street and the car was tuned on the dyno at 25psi. No issues. Engine builder asked why I didn't turn it up to 30psi and that I was good to do so. There were some grumblings coming from me about the plastic intake. I asked him to make one. Which he can damn well do. He just has no time at the moment with all the work in his shop going on. If this falls through I may resort to bribery or buy the CJ Motorsport one.

“Falls through??” Why you say negative words like that! Lol

What’s the CJM one? I can’t find anything on it but a forum thread from a few years ago mentioning it but not real details, price, numbers etc.

jchammond 01-10-2021 02:13 AM

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Originally Posted by GeauxTigers1 (Post 3980842)
“Falls through??” Why you say negative words like that! Lol

What’s the CJM one? I can’t find anything on it but a forum thread from a few years ago mentioning it but not real details, price, numbers etc.

That’s a one-off that Charles built, but requires some fabbing to install & probably a different intercooler.
Spooler is on top of his game with all of this, very valuable information in this whole thread! :tup:

Spooler 01-10-2021 02:13 AM

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Originally Posted by GeauxTigers1 (Post 3980842)
“Falls through??” Why you say negative words like that! Lol

What’s the CJM one? I can’t find anything on it but a forum thread from a few years ago mentioning it but not real details, price, numbers etc.

:roflpuke2: I hope we get a price next week. It is the easiest route. Otherwise the choice get's slimmed way way down.

GeauxTigers1 01-10-2021 02:15 AM

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Originally Posted by jchammond (Post 3980843)
That’s a one-off that Charles built, but requires some fabbing to install & probably a different intercooler.
Spooler is on top of his game with all of this, very valuable information in this whole thread! :tup:

Ha yep! I think I just found it. Looks so freaking sweet but a reroute of just about everything in our engine bay. 😫

https://conceptzperformance.com/cj-m...de_p_28400.php

jchammond 01-10-2021 02:15 AM

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Originally Posted by Spooler (Post 3980684)
I doubt it. We are all lined up because turbo cars have a limit. Once the headgasket issue is fixed the next problem is the plastic intake. I will retune to 30psi and boost by gear. I want to hear those turbo's sing...

30# would really make them sing :iagree:
Just think; engine is rated for up to 40# :eek:

jchammond 01-10-2021 02:17 AM

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Originally Posted by GeauxTigers1 (Post 3980846)
Ha yep! I think I just found it. Looks so freaking sweet but a reroute of just about everything in our engine bay. 😫

https://conceptzperformance.com/cj-m...de_p_28400.php

That looks similar; seems like the one I remember had twin TB’s up front :ugh2:
I could be mistaken though

Spooler 01-10-2021 02:18 AM

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Originally Posted by jchammond (Post 3980847)
30# would really make them sing :iagree:
Just think; engine is rated for up to 40# :eek:

That would be out of my turbo's efficiency range I beat. What I would call blowing hot air. The next weak link would be the crank if the block is good to go. Nobody really knows since we are getting into new territory.

Spooler 01-10-2021 02:19 AM

That one.

http://www.the370z.com/forced-induct...-manifold.html

Spooler 01-10-2021 02:22 AM

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Originally Posted by GeauxTigers1 (Post 3980846)
Ha yep! I think I just found it. Looks so freaking sweet but a reroute of just about everything in our engine bay. 😫

https://conceptzperformance.com/cj-m...de_p_28400.php

I am not sure on the price. The problem is it takes a while for Phunk to make it IF he even has time. You would pay and forget about it for a while until it hits your doorstep type deal.

jchammond 01-10-2021 02:23 AM

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SeeThruHead 01-10-2021 02:31 AM

Well I just read from page 25 to page 87 in one sitting. Wow what a roller coaster. Car is a monster. Amazing how transparent this build has been. I haven't watched all the videos yet but so much LEARNING. wow

Spooler 01-10-2021 02:34 AM

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Originally Posted by SeeThruHead (Post 3980855)
Well I just read from page 25 to page 87 in one sitting. Wow what a roller coaster. Car is a monster. Amazing how transparent this build has been. I haven't watched all the videos yet but so much LEARNING. wow

Mr. Squeeze took 2 weeks to read it 60 or so pages back. LOL It has been a rollercoaster ride that is for sure.

SeeThruHead 01-10-2021 02:47 AM

Yeah I have it set to 40 posts per page so there’s only 87 pages total. The first 25 tool we a week but then when you got the car back the first time. And it blew up, I couldn’t stop reading. Good stuff.

EDIT:

So Spooler. I watching some of the videos and thinking about my own build, i'm trying to learn from what you've done here. I'm wondering about displacement now. Would increasing displacement allow me to reach higher HP with lower boost and lower compression (and worse fuel, we don't have ethanol at the pump here, i'm not going to mix my own fuel). The Brian Crower stroker kit comes to mind. Boring larger on the stock block seems iffy from the information I've gathered from your thread, would allow for much easier distortion of the cylinder it seem. But larger sleeves maybe? What's the reason you didn't increase displacement in either of your engine builds?

Spooler 01-10-2021 03:15 PM

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Originally Posted by SeeThruHead (Post 3980858)
Yeah I have it set to 40 posts per page so there’s only 87 pages total. The first 25 tool we a week but then when you got the car back the first time. And it blew up, I couldn’t stop reading. Good stuff.

EDIT:

So Spooler. I watching some of the videos and thinking about my own build, i'm trying to learn from what you've done here. I'm wondering about displacement now. Would increasing displacement allow me to reach higher HP with lower boost and lower compression (and worse fuel, we don't have ethanol at the pump here, i'm not going to mix my own fuel). The Brian Crower stroker kit comes to mind. Boring larger on the stock block seems iffy from the information I've gathered from your thread, would allow for much easier distortion of the cylinder it seem. But larger sleeves maybe? What's the reason you didn't increase displacement in either of your engine builds?


I didn't see a need in increasing displacement. To go to a 4.0 liter I would have needed a stroker crank. I am happy with the power I have to be honest. The car is a handful now. More than most can drive. I have been driving turbo cars for years. Good luck getting in the 700hp range on pump gas. It can be done but longevity I do not know. You can go to a much larger bore with Darton MID sleeves. If you have never had a high hp car, start out at a lower hp and work your way up.

SeeThruHead 01-10-2021 05:38 PM

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Originally Posted by Spooler (Post 3980907)
I didn't see a need in increasing displacement. To go to a 4.0 liter I would have needed a stroker crank. I am happy with the power I have to be honest. The car is a handful now. More than most can drive. I have been driving turbo cars for years. Good luck getting in the 700hp range on pump gas. It can be done but longevity I do not know. You can go to a much larger bore with Darton MID sleeves. If you have never had a high hp car, start out at a lower hp and work your way up.

Yep that's the plan. I've layed out my stages and will be staying NA for a while before going to moderate boost. Staying on that for a while before building the engine and turning it up. I have a lot of driver training and track days in mind.

Spooler 01-10-2021 10:24 PM

Anybody want to upgrade their manual transmission? See other thread. PPG is interested.

http://www.the370z.com/engine-drivet...ission-11.html

Spooler 01-11-2021 04:10 PM

We are still waiting on SOHO...


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