Fast Intentions Stage 2 TT build by MA-Motorsports.

Spooler · 05-31-2019, 12:26 PM

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Originally Posted by redondoaveb

Why would they install a clutch that was only rated at 530ft.lbs? Your cars going to make well over that.

Guess you didn't read any of my previous posts.

Daleon spec'ed the clutch with ATS. They wanted HP numbers. So we gave them what I wanted to run, 800hp. When the clutch slipped, Jon at MA contacted ATS to try and figure out what was going on. Come to find out the clutch was only spec'ed for 800hp and 530 ft/lb of torque. Everything you see from ATS is hp ratings. We had to ask for TQ ratings. So we got one to support 750 ft/lb of torque with a little wiggle room. It is what it is. So, when deciding on a clutch, make sure you ask for TQ numbers too. It's not like MA or I did this on purpose. It's just part of the process. Not many folks are crazy enough to get one of these. I chose it from Phunks advice and experience with his.

Spooler · 05-31-2019, 12:35 PM

Original thread when I was looking.

ATS twin plate vs Os giken twin disk

redondoaveb · 05-31-2019, 12:59 PM

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Originally Posted by Spooler

Guess you didn't read any of my previous posts.

Daleon spec'ed the clutch with ATS. They wanted HP numbers. So we gave them what I wanted to run, 800hp. When the clutch slipped, Jon at MA contacted ATS to try and figure out what was going on. Come to find out the clutch was only spec'ed for 800hp and 530 ft/lb of torque. Everything you see from ATS is hp ratings. We had to ask for TQ ratings. So we got one to support 750 ft/lb of torque with a little wiggle room. It is what it is. So, when deciding on a clutch, make sure you ask for TQ numbers too. It's not like MA or I did this on purpose. It's just part of the process. Not many folks are crazy enough to get one of these. I chose it from Phunks advice and experience with his.

I did read your posts but missed that. That's weird that ATS would rate their clutches by hp. And you would think a clutch rated at 800hp would be rated over 530ft.lbs. I can see how you and MA figured you'd be fine. I agree, it is what it is, good thing you caught it now.

Spooler · 05-31-2019, 01:17 PM

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Originally Posted by redondoaveb

I did read your posts but missed that. That's weird that ATS would rate their clutches by hp. And you would think a clutch rated at 800hp would be rated over 530ft.lbs. I can see how you and MA figured you'd be fine. I agree, it is what it is, good thing you caught it now.

I was trying to be frugal. LMAO I should have just nutted up and got the triple from the start.

This is not the only clutch I have seen rated with HP numbers. Crazyness.

JARblue · 05-31-2019, 01:19 PM

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Originally Posted by Spooler

I was trying to be frugal.

Yeah that was dumb lol

Your entire build is anything but frugal

Spooler · 05-31-2019, 01:21 PM

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Originally Posted by JARblue

Yeah that was dumb lol

Your entire build is anything but frugal

LMAO, more like a classic case of excess.... Why on earth did I get frugal on this part is beyond me.

Spooler · 05-31-2019, 02:45 PM

You guys ever noticed how many guests view this thread when it get's busy?

jwick · 05-31-2019, 03:49 PM

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Originally Posted by Spooler

LMAO, more like a classic case of excess.... Why on earth did I get frugal on this part is beyond me.

I did the same dumb ****. Spent thousands and thousands on the build and saved a couple hundred bucks not buying the last clutch I’d ever need. Then my kit decided it was going to make stupid torque levels and I’ve been on the ragged edge of burning it up since I installed it.

Elmo370z · 05-31-2019, 11:05 PM

So I have to maybe upgrade to a triple... stupid rule

Spooler · 06-01-2019, 12:07 AM

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Originally Posted by Elmo370z

So I have to maybe upgrade to a triple... stupid rule

Jon will have to check what you have in your car. Then you can make an
informed decision. I know you run a normal clutch disk.

1slow370 · 06-01-2019, 04:54 PM

Hp numbers and clutches are all bs any z clutch can hold 900hp if you bolted it to an f1 engine. The torque rating of the clutch is the only thing that matters as its a static friction element. An f1 clutch only handles about 300lbft

Rusty · 06-01-2019, 06:51 PM

Now you got me thinkin' about the ATS Dual Carbon with the lightweight flywheel.

Elmo370z · 06-01-2019, 07:34 PM

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Originally Posted by Rusty

Now you got me thinkin' about the ATS Dual Carbon with the lightweight flywheel.

Do it, I don’t know how the carbon is to begin with but the standard twin was insane at first

Spooler · 06-01-2019, 11:44 PM

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Originally Posted by Rusty

Now you got me thinkin' about the ATS Dual Carbon with the lightweight flywheel.

It is easy to upgrade to a triple if you ever go boosted.

Rusty · 06-01-2019, 11:47 PM

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Originally Posted by Spooler

It is easy to upgrade to a triple if you ever go boosted.

What you did to up grade got the wheels spins in my head.

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