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Spooler 05-31-2019 11:26 AM

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Originally Posted by redondoaveb (Post 3856948)
Why would they install a clutch that was only rated at 530ft.lbs? Your cars going to make well over that.

Guess you didn't read any of my previous posts.

Daleon spec'ed the clutch with ATS. They wanted HP numbers. So we gave them what I wanted to run, 800hp. When the clutch slipped, Jon at MA contacted ATS to try and figure out what was going on. Come to find out the clutch was only spec'ed for 800hp and 530 ft/lb of torque. Everything you see from ATS is hp ratings. We had to ask for TQ ratings. So we got one to support 750 ft/lb of torque with a little wiggle room. It is what it is. So, when deciding on a clutch, make sure you ask for TQ numbers too. It's not like MA or I did this on purpose. It's just part of the process. Not many folks are crazy enough to get one of these. I chose it from Phunks advice and experience with his.

Spooler 05-31-2019 11:35 AM

Original thread when I was looking.

http://www.the370z.com/engine-drivet...in-disk-2.html

redondoaveb 05-31-2019 11:59 AM

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Originally Posted by Spooler (Post 3856950)
Guess you didn't read any of my previous posts.

Daleon spec'ed the clutch with ATS. They wanted HP numbers. So we gave them what I wanted to run, 800hp. When the clutch slipped, Jon at MA contacted ATS to try and figure out what was going on. Come to find out the clutch was only spec'ed for 800hp and 530 ft/lb of torque. Everything you see from ATS is hp ratings. We had to ask for TQ ratings. So we got one to support 750 ft/lb of torque with a little wiggle room. It is what it is. So, when deciding on a clutch, make sure you ask for TQ numbers too. It's not like MA or I did this on purpose. It's just part of the process. Not many folks are crazy enough to get one of these. I chose it from Phunks advice and experience with his.

I did read your posts but missed that. That's weird that ATS would rate their clutches by hp. And you would think a clutch rated at 800hp would be rated over 530ft.lbs. I can see how you and MA figured you'd be fine. I agree, it is what it is, good thing you caught it now.

Spooler 05-31-2019 12:17 PM

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Originally Posted by redondoaveb (Post 3856956)
I did read your posts but missed that. That's weird that ATS would rate their clutches by hp. And you would think a clutch rated at 800hp would be rated over 530ft.lbs. I can see how you and MA figured you'd be fine. I agree, it is what it is, good thing you caught it now.

I was trying to be frugal. LMAO I should have just nutted up and got the triple from the start.

This is not the only clutch I have seen rated with HP numbers. Crazyness.

JARblue 05-31-2019 12:19 PM

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Originally Posted by Spooler (Post 3856961)
I was trying to be frugal.

Yeah that was dumb lol

Your entire build is anything but frugal :tup: :driving:

Spooler 05-31-2019 12:21 PM

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Originally Posted by JARblue (Post 3856962)
Yeah that was dumb lol

Your entire build is anything but frugal :tup: :driving:

LMAO, more like a classic case of excess.... Why on earth did I get frugal on this part is beyond me. :roflpuke2:

Spooler 05-31-2019 01:45 PM

You guys ever noticed how many guests view this thread when it get's busy?

jwick 05-31-2019 02:49 PM

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Originally Posted by Spooler (Post 3856963)
LMAO, more like a classic case of excess.... Why on earth did I get frugal on this part is beyond me. :roflpuke2:


I did the same dumb ****. Spent thousands and thousands on the build and saved a couple hundred bucks not buying the last clutch I’d ever need. Then my kit decided it was going to make stupid torque levels and I’ve been on the ragged edge of burning it up since I installed it.

Elmo370z 05-31-2019 10:05 PM

So I have to maybe upgrade to a triple... stupid rule

Spooler 05-31-2019 11:07 PM

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Originally Posted by Elmo370z (Post 3857083)
So I have to maybe upgrade to a triple... stupid rule

Jon will have to check what you have in your car. Then you can make an
informed decision. I know you run a normal clutch disk.

1slow370 06-01-2019 03:54 PM

Hp numbers and clutches are all bs any z clutch can hold 900hp if you bolted it to an f1 engine. The torque rating of the clutch is the only thing that matters as its a static friction element. An f1 clutch only handles about 300lbft

Rusty 06-01-2019 05:51 PM

Now you got me thinkin' about the ATS Dual Carbon with the lightweight flywheel. :shakes head:

Elmo370z 06-01-2019 06:34 PM

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Originally Posted by Rusty (Post 3857234)
Now you got me thinkin' about the ATS Dual Carbon with the lightweight flywheel. :shakes head:

Do it, I don’t know how the carbon is to begin with but the standard twin was insane at first

Spooler 06-01-2019 10:44 PM

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Originally Posted by Rusty (Post 3857234)
Now you got me thinkin' about the ATS Dual Carbon with the lightweight flywheel. :shakes head:

It is easy to upgrade to a triple if you ever go boosted.

Rusty 06-01-2019 10:47 PM

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Originally Posted by Spooler (Post 3857307)
It is easy to upgrade to a triple if you ever go boosted.

What you did to up grade got the wheels spins in my head. :shakes head:


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