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Originally Posted by Whjaxn17 I DD mine w/ a 13lb flywheel w/ no issues. I love it and would do it again if I had the chance, but different strokes

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Old 05-30-2019, 12:35 PM   #1186 (permalink)
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I DD mine w/ a 13lb flywheel w/ no issues. I love it and would do it again if I had the chance, but different strokes



edit: that is on a stock clutch, though, so not exactly a straight comparison
Haha, there was no comparison!

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Clutch parts should be in next week. After they get it installed again, back to the dyno for more tuning. Hopefully everything goes good this time and no more issues. It's just part of modifying a car. Some are easy and some (my cars) are a pain in the butt.
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Clutch parts should be in next week. After they get it installed again, back to the dyno for more tuning. Hopefully everything goes good this time and no more issues. It's just part of modifying a car. Some are easy and some (my cars) are a pain in the butt.
Which pressure is your clutch?
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I don't remember. It was good for 1100hp and 800ft/lb of torque. The torque parts is where I was lacking before. I'll find out when the parts come in.
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I don't remember. It was good for 1100hp and 800ft/lb of torque. The torque parts is where I was lacking before. I'll find out when the parts come in.
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The old clutch was good for 800hp and 530ft/lb of tq. They were right on the money on the Tq. It slipped right at 530ft/lb on the 2nd run after it got hot.
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I don't write anything down. I just remember it. They call me the elephant at work. I remember stuff that happened 6 years ago. I just have to wait for it to roll up on the rolodex in my brain. Come to think of it, I don't think they told me. Eh, I will find out next week.
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.................and you can't remember on what you had for breakfast this morning.
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I can say I was making full boost at approx. 3700 rpm. 18.5 psi. The C2 exhaust cams are no joke. Justin's dyno sheet showed he was making only 11psi at 4000 rpm. That was with the Tq tuned out by Seb on a stock block.
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.................and you can't remember on what you had for breakfast this morning.
Sure do, one Mt. Dew. LMAO.
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Here's the numbers I copied from the ExCel chart I made to convert the MA-M DynoLog to the DynoJet numbers.
It's a 17% factor

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DynoLog Dynojet


400 = 468
410 = 480
420 = 491
430 = 503
440 = 515
450 = 527
460 = 538
470 = 550
480 = 562
490 = 573
500 = 585
510 = 597
520 = 608
530 = 620
540 = 632
550 = 644
560 = 655
570 = 667
580 = 679
590 = 690
600 = 702
610 = 714
620 = 725
630 = 737
640 = 749
650 = 761
660 = 772
670 = 784
680 = 796
690 = 807
700 = 819
710 = 831
720 = 842
730 = 854
740 = 866
750 = 878
760 = 889
770 = 901
780 = 913
790 = 924
800 = 936
810 = 948
820 = 959
830 = 971
840 = 983
850 = 995
860 = 1006
870 = 1018
880 = 1030
890 = 1041
900 = 1053

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Why Our Mainline Dyno Produces More Accurate Results

Inertia Dynos - like DynoJet dynos, measure power based on the length of time it takes to "spool up" two heavy steel drums within the dyno. Horsepower numbers are much higher because they are based on distance traveled / acceleration rather than force, at least 17% higher than load bearing dynos in our experience. Cruising air / fuel ratios are generally richer because they are based on wide open throttle conditions.

Load Bearing Dynos - measure power based on the force applied to the rollers when the dyno brake is applied. Loading the engine gives us the ability to hold the engine at various loads for driveability tuning and maximum fuel economy. All Mainline dynos are load bearing dynos.

load bearing to inertia dyno horsepower conversion
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The Mainline Dyno deserves its outstanding reputation for producing the same results from dyno to dyno, as a scientific approach has been taken that provides the highest degree of accuracy. No need for a special operating mode that reduces the ability of the operator to affect the results. No menu options for the dyno operator to "modify" results. There are definitely no cheat modes and no smoke or mirrors on the Mainline Dyno.
This graph is correct on MA's dyno compared to a DynoJet. It's dead on the money. MA took my car to a dyno jet and verified, 589hp on their dyno is 690hp on a dynojet. 2nd run the clutch slipped. Well, the tuning will continue once the clutch upgrade is finished.
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I hope I make 640-660 on Ma’s dyno
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Oops, yeah you should.

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The old clutch was good for 800hp and 530ft/lb of tq. They were right on the money on the Tq. It slipped right at 530ft/lb on the 2nd run after it got hot.
Why would they install a clutch that was only rated at 530ft.lbs? Your cars going to make well over that.
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