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Spooler 09-10-2020 01:23 PM

Dude was whining about 18k for a built motor. I am calling it, Mall Crawler....
He will be asking for a sponsorship soon. I can tell it.

redondoaveb 09-10-2020 01:44 PM

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Originally Posted by Elmo370z (Post 3958699)
Me and Mike got into it. Like spooler states mazworx didn’t build rjm blocks with mid sleeves, they were La dry sleeves that he didn’t recommend. Mike is such a snake, just like at the very beginning he stated he had no ties with Rjm.

I saw your posts.:rofl2: That was great! :owned:

cv129 09-10-2020 01:50 PM

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Originally Posted by redondoaveb (Post 3958670)
Mazworx discussion on facebook.

Where can I read the full conversation?

redondoaveb 09-10-2020 02:59 PM

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Originally Posted by cv129 (Post 3958717)
Where can I read the full conversation?

https://www.facebook.com/groups/1308...3627380507647/

Spooler 09-10-2020 03:34 PM

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Originally Posted by redondoaveb (Post 3958722)

1 Rule: No Drama

I am sorry but I was rolling after I saw that. :inoutroflpuke:

Spooler 09-10-2020 03:55 PM

Elmo, is this where you posted my dyno graphs? Don't post my stuff there. I feel like I have been violated by the MyFace crowd. Dang man, I got to take a shower now.

Elmo370z 09-10-2020 05:57 PM

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Originally Posted by Spooler (Post 3958728)
1 Rule: No Drama

I am sorry but I was rolling after I saw that. :inoutroflpuke:

No f aq’s given when it comes to mike mixon

Elmo370z 09-10-2020 06:10 PM

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Originally Posted by Spooler (Post 3958729)
Elmo, is this where you posted my dyno graphs? Don't post my stuff there. I feel like I have been violated by the MyFace crowd. Dang man, I got to take a shower now.

No I didn’t post in that group.

Hotrodz 09-10-2020 07:09 PM

I saw his graph posted on Instagram. It was posted by @trackdaytherapy.

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Hotrodz 09-10-2020 07:21 PM

So things are kept in context. The closed deck thing is not the issue with head gaskets blowing. Pretty much anyone attempting to make up to 1000whp blew their head gasket. The closed deck was thought to be a panacea for that but it still did not deal with cylinder pressures like everyone thought it would. It still not a bad thing just not the right thing to deal with the issue at hand. It may not be needed in that equation but let's face it we all look for the next best thing that will get the outcome we are looking for and it is all the rage until it's not!

Well that's my story for now and if my closed deck build fails...well I will join the others in the it was fun until it went boom club!

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Elmo370z 09-10-2020 08:43 PM

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Originally Posted by Hotrodz (Post 3958742)
So things are kept in context. The closed deck thing is not the issue with head gaskets blowing. Pretty much anyone attempting to make up to 1000whp blew their head gasket. The closed deck was thought to be a panacea for that but it still did not deal with cylinder pressures like everyone thought it would. It still not a bad thing just not the right thing to deal with the issue at hand. It may not be needed in that equation but let's face it we all look for the next best thing that will get the outcome we are looking for and it is all the rage until it's not!

Well that's my story for now and if my closed deck build fails...well I will join the others in the it was fun until it went boom club!

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Seb put together your motor it’s not going to fail. But I’m
Curious to what he did with your heads

Spooler 09-10-2020 09:05 PM

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Originally Posted by Hotrodz (Post 3958742)
So things are kept in context. The closed deck thing is not the issue with head gaskets blowing. Pretty much anyone attempting to make up to 1000whp blew their head gasket. The closed deck was thought to be a panacea for that but it still did not deal with cylinder pressures like everyone thought it would. It still not a bad thing just not the right thing to deal with the issue at hand. It may not be needed in that equation but let's face it we all look for the next best thing that will get the outcome we are looking for and it is all the rage until it's not!

Well that's my story for now and if my closed deck build fails...well I will join the others in the it was fun until it went boom club!

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All these post I have been putting up are to help people be informed and not join the blown headgasket club. We can always keep the boost at a lower level and stay safe. That is really the big question. What level is safe. I thought I new about what that was but there is so much misinformation out there it is hard to tell. It does come down to cylinder pressure. So if you are at 11:1 compression the boost level will be much lower than someone with 9:1, 9.5:1, or 10:1. People trying to make 900hp blew their headgaskets with a closed deck block.

Spooler 09-10-2020 09:14 PM

By the way, the cylinders will still rock with the RJM closed deck. That has been confirmed. I am not sure about the CSS. If you call and ask JWT what to do for a high HP turbo build, they will tell you to sleeve the block.

Hotrodz 09-10-2020 09:52 PM

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Originally Posted by Spooler (Post 3958767)
By the way, the cylinders will still rock with the RJM closed deck. That has been confirmed. I am not sure about the CSS. If you call and ask JWT what to do for a high HP turbo build, they will tell you to sleeve the block.

That was the big disappointment with the RJM closed deck, everyone was counting on it to handle the cylinder pressure and stop the cylinder rock. It is all about next. Hell people are driving oem motor and interals with 700whp now and that was not even considered a thing a few years ago.

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Spooler 09-10-2020 10:11 PM

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Originally Posted by Hotrodz (Post 3958774)
Hell people are driving oem motor and interals with 700whp now and that was not even considered a thing a few years ago.

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That is because they have them de-tuned to reduce cylinder pressure so the rods will live. I wouldn't worry about your engine. Seb will know exactly what he can and can't do. He has done a ton of testing.

Spooler 09-10-2020 10:38 PM

As you all know Chris F. and Brian are good friends because they did Formula Drift together when Chris lived on the east coast. Everyone knows that Chris went to a VR38 engine. The reason, he went through an engine every event when he was running the VQ37HR. They tried everything to keep the heads from lifting. His next step was to Sleeve the block with Darton MID sleeves. If you go back and look at his Instagram stories he has one driving back to the pits and the engine was rattling. His statement was, "She's tired". That is exactly what it sounds like if you pop a headgasket. So I just skipped through all that experimentation and went straight to the Darton MID sleeves. I just saw no reason to do anything else.

Spooler 09-10-2020 11:19 PM

Back to a video.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YLtTl4wrO_A

Elmo370z 09-11-2020 12:00 AM

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Originally Posted by Spooler (Post 3958786)
As you all know Chris F. and Brian are good friends because they did Formula Drift together when Chris lived on the east coast. Everyone knows that Chris went to a VR38 engine. The reason, he went through an engine every event when he was running the VQ37HR. They tried everything to keep the heads from lifting. His next step was to Sleeve the block with Darton MID sleeves. If you go back and look at his Instagram stories he has one driving back to the pits and the engine was rattling. His statement was, "She's tired". That is exactly what it sounds like if you pop a headgasket. So I just skipped through all that experimentation and went straight to the Darton MID sleeves. I just saw no reason to do anything else.

https://www.facebook.com/groups/Maxi...5069977797279/

This rjm
Closed deck block “ never had any failures”

Elmo370z 09-11-2020 12:09 AM

https://drifting.com/this-year-amspe...ssion/drifting

Ahh found it. Failure

Spooler 09-11-2020 07:38 AM

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Originally Posted by Elmo370z (Post 3958792)
https://www.facebook.com/groups/Maxi...5069977797279/

This rjm
Closed deck block “ never had any failures”

LOL, I wasn't going through all that chit. NO WAY IN HELL!!!

Spooler 09-11-2020 08:12 AM

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Originally Posted by Elmo370z (Post 3958793)

You can see the LA dry sleeve in that block. Guess that didn't work either. That would have been a miserable 2 years.

Spooler 09-11-2020 09:33 AM

Elmo370z, I guess we can take that list of highest HP Z's that was posted on Facebook and start checking off the ones that have blown headgaskets and we haven't heard from again. Let's get out of the shadows and start bringing the truth to light.

Elmo370z 09-11-2020 12:53 PM

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Originally Posted by Spooler (Post 3958844)
Elmo370z, I guess we can take that list of highest HP Z's that was posted on Facebook and start checking off the ones that have blown headgaskets and we haven't heard from again. Let's get out of the shadows and start bringing the truth to light.

Yeah good luck, you know they don’t speak on it mich

Spooler 09-12-2020 07:28 PM

This is brutal. Ready to go pick up my car and have some fun.

Rusty 09-12-2020 09:34 PM

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Originally Posted by Spooler (Post 3959038)
This is brutal. Ready to go pick up my car and have some fun.

Vince get all the tuning done?

Spooler 09-12-2020 10:22 PM

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Originally Posted by Rusty (Post 3959071)
Vince get all the tuning done?

Yup, he may have even scared himself a bit. LOL I know he got to drive the car on the street this time.

Rusty 09-12-2020 10:27 PM

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Originally Posted by Spooler (Post 3959074)
Yup, he may have even scared himself a bit. LOL I know he got to drive the car on the street this time.

:excited:

jchammond 09-13-2020 05:10 AM

You’ll be getting it back at a good time; as cooler dense air is otw :eek:
Tires may feel greasy :icon14:

Spooler 09-13-2020 10:31 AM

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Originally Posted by jchammond (Post 3959086)
You’ll be getting it back at a good time; as cooler dense air is otw :eek:
Tires may feel greasy :icon14:

Every one Yada Yada Yada's about boost weather. In a higher Hp Z it just makes it more difficult to get traction. Greesy, ah no. More like dangerous. Have to drive longer to get heat in the tires. Pass a car and cross over the white lines, The car wiggles across those lines while you hope it stays somewhat straight. I prefer 80 degs and up.

Elmo370z 09-13-2020 11:35 AM

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Originally Posted by Spooler (Post 3959102)
Every one Yada Yada Yada's about boost weather. In a higher Hp Z it just makes it more difficult to get traction. Greesy, ah no. More like dangerous. Have to drive longer to get heat in the tires. Pass a car and cross over the white lines, The car wiggles across those lines while you hope it stays somewhat straight. I prefer 80 degs and up.

My miata does fine in cold weather

Spooler 09-13-2020 01:01 PM

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Originally Posted by Elmo370z (Post 3959104)
My miata does fine in cold weather

You will find out soon enough.

Spooler 09-13-2020 01:20 PM

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Originally Posted by Elmo370z (Post 3959104)
My miata does fine in cold weather

By the way, just because it has turned cold outside my car won't be parked. I will continue to drive it year around. I spent all this money to enjoy the car. I won't be driving some daily driver boring car.

jchammond 09-13-2020 02:17 PM

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Originally Posted by Spooler (Post 3959134)
By the way, just because it has turned cold outside my car won't be parked. I will continue to drive it year around. I spent all this money to enjoy the car. I won't be driving some daily driver boring car.

:driving: :wtf2:

Elmo370z 09-13-2020 04:33 PM

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Originally Posted by Spooler (Post 3959134)
By the way, just because it has turned cold outside my car won't be parked. I will continue to drive it year around. I spent all this money to enjoy the car. I won't be driving some daily driver boring car.

As you should. Sometime I wish I built mine to be driven everyday

jchammond 09-21-2020 02:34 AM

Any day old man :driving:
Keep waiting & you’ll be strapping on some All-Season’s :tiphat:

jchammond 09-21-2020 02:50 AM

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The Rack has your size’s in Runflat All-Season’s :tup:
I know you ‘ont like them; but they’ll be much safer through the winter :driving:

Spooler 09-21-2020 08:16 AM

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Originally Posted by jchammond (Post 3961186)
The Rack has your size’s in Runflat All-Season’s :tup:
I know you ‘ont like them; but they’ll be much safer through the winter :driving:

LOL, Ah good luck with that. If the weather gets crazy enough I will drive my truck. Just Say "NO" to all seasons. I am still working from home and won't go back to the office until next year some time.

Elmo370z 09-21-2020 10:06 AM

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Originally Posted by jchammond (Post 3961186)
The Rack has your size’s in Runflat All-Season’s :tup:
I know you ‘ont like them; but they’ll be much safer through the winter :driving:

That would be a death trap

Spooler 09-22-2020 10:44 AM

Brian asked me for my complete mod list. Uhh, it took me 3 tries and I think this is all. Make that 5. I forgot the Radium Catch cans and CSF Triple pass radiator.

Fast Intentions Stage 2.5 TT kit
Fast Intentions Crash bar
Fast Intentions 3" exhaust with Carbon Fiber mufflers
ATS Triple Carbon Clutch with external Nissan CSC
2-Walboro 450
CJ Motorsports duel fuel pump setup
IDA1700cc injectors
IDF-750 Fuel filter
MA-Motorsports custom built fuel return system for E85
JWT C2 exhaust cams with new water pump, Timing chains, Guides and tensioners
Upgraded front cover Oil galley gaskets/fasteners
Suckerpunch oil pump
MA-Motorsports ATI fluid damper (already on the car)
34 row FI oil cooler (already on the car)
Radium Catch Cans
Mazworx built Long Block
Carrillo Pro Rods
CP Pistons 10:1
Darton MID sleeves
Ported heads with 1mm larger valves
Iconel Exhaust valves
L19 head studs
OS Giken 1.5 LSD (already on the car)
Z1 Motorsports Poly Diff bushings (already on the car)
MA-Motorsports Diff cooler
Finite Element Design Carbon Fiber 3" cooling ducts
Stillen Front Brake cooling duct kit
Z1 2-piece rotors front and rear (already on the car)
Carbotech XP8 pads front/rear (already on the car)
E85 content gauge, etc.
Eboost2 boost controller/gauge
Galeforce custom single gauge pillar
Ecuteck tuning with Flexfuel
DSS Pro Level Axles
Aragosta Coilovers 12k/10k Swift springs upgrade
Corner Balanced by MA-Motorsports
SSR MS3 wheels
Front 19x10 +29
Rear 19x11.5 +30
Toyo R888r
Front 285/35/19
Rear 325/30/19
Race Rear wheels and Tires
Weld Wheels 17x10.5 6.5in. backspacing High Hat
MT Street R radials 305/45/17
SPL FUCA’s
SPL Midlinks
SPL Swaybar endlinks
SPL Rear Camber arms
SPL lockout kit for Camber and Toe for the Rear
Factory Recaro seats from V2 370z Nismo
Tracspec Vents for the hood.
NISMO Solid rear Subframe bushings
Modified Bellworks diff brace
CJ- Motorsports solid engine mounts.
Hotchkis Front Sway bar.
CSF Triple Pass Radiator

Spooler 09-22-2020 01:02 PM

I guess I can't hide stuff anymore. LOL


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