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Hotrodz 09-09-2020 11:07 AM

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Originally Posted by Spooler (Post 3958531)
I will daily drive on Pump E85 which is E77 from where I get it. I will limit my boost to 17psi. If I turn it up I will be on Ignite E90. I just need it to be very consistent for that level. E85 detonation may not be detected. I am not taking any chances.
It is more expensive to replace an engine than to nut up and run the good stuff when needed.

Agreed! I will not be at full boost at the track and will keep a barrel of e90 on hand for those special occasions on long fast tracks.

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Hotrodz 09-09-2020 11:12 AM

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Originally Posted by Elmo370z (Post 3958521)
Less then $300 for me, but I have to go pick it up

Lucky!!! It is a good thing it is cheap for you as you will burn through it like burning dollar bills. I got as low as 2.5 mpg and never more than 4. You may be closer to 4 as Sebring is a long track and so you aren't shifting constantly as you would be on track that is mile to 2.5 miles long.

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Spooler 09-09-2020 11:45 AM

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Originally Posted by Hotrodz (Post 3958535)
Agreed! I will not be at full boost at the track and will keep a barrel of e90 on hand for those special occasions on long fast tracks.

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Since I am working from home my E85 station as 1hr away. I don't drive that much so I have a feeling my Ignite Red stash will get depleted really quick. Once I empty a barrel I have a feeling I will take it to fill it up with pump E85. LOL

redondoaveb 09-09-2020 01:03 PM

Why don't you get something like this
https://www.jmesales.com/300-gallon-...-and-vent-kit/

Spooler 09-09-2020 01:06 PM

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Originally Posted by redondoaveb (Post 3958549)
Why don't you get something like this
https://www.jmesales.com/300-gallon-...-and-vent-kit/

Nah...

cv129 09-09-2020 01:13 PM

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Originally Posted by redondoaveb (Post 3958549)
Why don't you get something like this
https://www.jmesales.com/300-gallon-...-and-vent-kit/

There's just no end to a rabbit hole

Hotrodz 09-09-2020 01:15 PM

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Originally Posted by redondoaveb (Post 3958549)
Why don't you get something like this

https://www.jmesales.com/300-gallon-...-and-vent-kit/

Back in the day when I got my first diesel truck I had plans on moving to a place with some land and getting one of those bad boys for diesel fuel and all of that went away especially after EPA put heavy fines on folks for using bulk fuels for agriculture in their personal vehicles. Also there are EPA rules for storage of bulk fuels. Some cities have limit on how much fuel you can store at your house. I'm pretty sure I store more than allowed already lol.

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Rusty 09-09-2020 03:38 PM

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Originally Posted by redondoaveb (Post 3958549)
Why don't you get something like this
https://www.jmesales.com/300-gallon-...-and-vent-kit/

Single wall tank needs to be in a dike. A double wall doesn't. We had a couple of the double wall tanks at the power plant. We put those in a dike too. Just to keep the powers to be off our necks. Diesel, kerosene, and gasoline.

Hotrodz 09-09-2020 03:52 PM

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Originally Posted by Rusty (Post 3958568)
Single wall tank needs to be in a dike. A double wall doesn't. We had a couple of the double wall tanks at the power plant. We put those in a dike too. Just to keep the powers to be off our necks. Diesel, kerosene, and gasoline.

Exactly, everything changed in the 90s due to Super Fund or ground water and soil contamination because of petroleum products.

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Rusty 09-09-2020 03:56 PM

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Originally Posted by Hotrodz (Post 3958570)
Exactly, everything changed in the 90s due to Super Fund or ground water and soil contamination because of petroleum products.

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Some places. A 55 gal drum needs to be in a catch basin.

Hotrodz 09-09-2020 04:04 PM

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Originally Posted by Rusty (Post 3958571)
Some places. A 55 gal drum needs to be in a catch basin.

Agreed!

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redondoaveb 09-09-2020 05:05 PM

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Originally Posted by Rusty (Post 3958568)
Single wall tank needs to be in a dike. A double wall doesn't. We had a couple of the double wall tanks at the power plant. We put those in a dike too. Just to keep the powers to be off our necks. Diesel, kerosene, and gasoline.

I was just giving an example of an option not necessarily recommending a single wall tank. :tup:

redondoaveb 09-09-2020 05:08 PM

I remember every summer in the early 70's visiting the grandparents farm in Indiana. My grandpa would fill up one of his 100 gallon overhead tanks with premium for us. Cost him a whole $25.00. :eek:

Rusty 09-09-2020 05:21 PM

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Originally Posted by redondoaveb (Post 3958578)
I remember every summer in the early 70's visiting the grandparents farm in Indiana. My grandpa would fill up one of his 100 gallon overhead tanks with premium for us. Cost him a whole $25.00. :eek:

Those days are gone.

redondoaveb 09-09-2020 05:25 PM

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Originally Posted by Rusty (Post 3958580)
Those days are gone.

So are they and their farm :rofl2:

Elmo370z 09-09-2020 06:06 PM

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Originally Posted by Hotrodz (Post 3958537)
Lucky!!! It is a good thing it is cheap for you as you will burn through it like burning dollar bills. I got as low as 2.5 mpg and never more than 4. You may be closer to 4 as Sebring is a long track and so you aren't shifting constantly as you would be on track that is mile to 2.5 miles long.

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It burns that fast?

Rusty 09-09-2020 07:04 PM

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Originally Posted by Elmo370z (Post 3958588)
It burns that fast?

:rofl2:

Sounds like you wasn't prepared for that. High fuel pressure, big injectors, WFO. Yea.........you're going to burn some corn. :rofl2:

Hotrodz 09-09-2020 07:41 PM

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Originally Posted by Rusty (Post 3958593)
:rofl2:



Sounds like you wasn't prepared for that. High fuel pressure, big injectors, WFO. Yea.........you're going to burn some corn. :rofl2:

What he said! That is the story no one tells you. Sure it is cheaper at the pump but you use more of it. I went from about 24 mpg on the with 91 octane boosted to 17. In town the difference was great about 12 to 14. I got better economy out of my 3/4 ton diesel 4x4.

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Spooler 09-09-2020 09:40 PM

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Originally Posted by Hotrodz (Post 3958598)
What he said! That is the story no one tells you. Sure it is cheaper at the pump but you use more of it. I went from about 24 mpg on the with 91 octane boosted to 17. In town the difference was great about 12 to 14. I got better economy out of my 3/4 ton diesel 4x4.

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Yeap, I was burning 9 gallons a day, 158miles. That E85 station loved me. I was there everyday. A full tank has a range of about 220 miles, That's it. Of coarse I was having some fun but the more fun you have the faster that needle moves down. LOL

GeauxTigers1 09-09-2020 09:57 PM

Hey Spooler! You went closed deck this time around didn't you? Saw a message from Mike Mixon where he said, "I haven’t heard of a single issue. There are hundreds of the closed decks out there. Several running high boost applications"

This makes me a hell of a lot happier from what I've heard. I'm still paranoid AF about the head gasket blowing. Especially after what you went through so curious if y'all have heard the same. I still thought that was an unsolved mystery.

Spooler 09-09-2020 10:20 PM

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Originally Posted by GeauxTigers1 (Post 3958608)
Hey Spooler! You went closed deck this time around didn't you? Saw a message from Mike Mixon where he said, "I haven’t heard of a single issue. There are hundreds of the closed decks out there. Several running high boost applications"

This makes me a hell of a lot happier from what I've heard. I'm still paranoid AF about the head gasket blowing. Especially after what you went through so curious if y'all have heard the same. I still thought that was an unsolved mystery.

No, I went Darton MID sleeves with a good bit of tricks to improve headgasket sealing/clamping force. Talk with Seb, he can tell you what he thinks. I am not here to bad mouth anyone but that statement is false. A closed deck block will not fix the problem. You have to do more.

Spooler 09-09-2020 10:39 PM

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Originally Posted by GeauxTigers1 (Post 3958608)
Hey Spooler! You went closed deck this time around didn't you? Saw a message from Mike Mixon where he said, "I haven’t heard of a single issue. There are hundreds of the closed decks out there. Several running high boost applications"

This makes me a hell of a lot happier from what I've heard. I'm still paranoid AF about the head gasket blowing. Especially after what you went through so curious if y'all have heard the same. I still thought that was an unsolved mystery.

By the way, There are only 3- SOHO cars that have not blown headgaskets and mine. My car and the SOHO cars need more time but should be just fine. All of the other high HP cars have all popped headgaskets. SOHO and Mazworx have done their own thang for correcting the problem.

Spooler 09-09-2020 11:17 PM

Brian at MA-Motorsports and I had a good conversation at the first of the year on which way to go after I had talked to Mark at Mazworx. I will not post the details but the next step was to do what I did, Sleeve the block. I do have a list of folks who have popped headgaskets with RJM closed deck blocks. Some of them, multiple headgaskets.

Elmo370z 09-09-2020 11:27 PM

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Originally Posted by GeauxTigers1 (Post 3958608)
Hey Spooler! You went closed deck this time around didn't you? Saw a message from Mike Mixon where he said, "I haven’t heard of a single issue. There are hundreds of the closed decks out there. Several running high boost applications"

This makes me a hell of a lot happier from what I've heard. I'm still paranoid AF about the head gasket blowing. Especially after what you went through so curious if y'all have heard the same. I still thought that was an unsolved mystery.

�� that snake. Don’t feed into his BS. Ask him to prove it.

jchammond 09-10-2020 04:09 AM

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Originally Posted by Spooler (Post 3958612)
By the way, There are only 3- SOHO cars that have not blown headgaskets and mine. My car and the SOHO cars need more time but should be just fine. All of the other high HP cars have all popped headgaskets. SOHO and Mazworx have done their own thang for correcting the problem.

Yep, awaiting on you to roll some miles up :driving:
As cooler weather is approaching & my engine is out :ugh2:
Just need to prep errthing up for transport & head to Mazworx :tup:
So get busy already :iagree:

Spooler 09-10-2020 08:02 AM

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Originally Posted by jchammond (Post 3958626)
Yep, awaiting on you to roll some miles up :driving:
As cooler weather is approaching & my engine is out :ugh2:
Just need to prep errthing up for transport & head to Mazworx :tup:
So get busy already :iagree:

You will be waiting for a while. Since COVID19 and working from home, driving is very limited right now for me. Spend your money and take your chances.

JARblue 09-10-2020 08:11 AM

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Originally Posted by GeauxTigers1 (Post 3958608)
Saw a message from Mike Mixon where he said, "I haven’t heard of a single issue. There are hundreds of the closed decks out there. Several running high boost applications"

:bs:

I can't decide whether Mike is on the take or just fuckin stupid...

Ghostvette 09-10-2020 08:19 AM

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Originally Posted by JARblue (Post 3958647)
:bs:

I can't decide whether Mike is on the take or just fuckin stupid...

Both :owned:

Spooler 09-10-2020 08:26 AM

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Originally Posted by JARblue (Post 3958647)
:bs:

I can't decide whether Mike is on the take or just fuckin stupid...

I don't know. I can say that most folks that have popped headgaskets don't talk about it. I have been getting the back end stories about their issues. I have been up front with everyone. Nobody likes to admit they have had issues. It is not cheap to go back and fix it. I just do me and don't worry so much about the rest of it.

Spooler 09-10-2020 08:51 AM

By the way, Darton MID Sleeves are not easy to do correctly. Mark told me part of the process and I can say that it is tedious. They have to know what they are doing. Don't let just anyone sleeve your block. If you do go to someone else, if the headgasket blows, don't expect another machine shop to fix it. That motor build turns into a big old paper weight, coffee table, etc. I already know of one instance.

redondoaveb 09-10-2020 09:23 AM

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Mazworx discussion on facebook.

Rusty 09-10-2020 09:38 AM

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Originally Posted by Ghostvette (Post 3958654)
Both :owned:

:iagree:

Spooler 09-10-2020 09:52 AM

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Originally Posted by redondoaveb (Post 3958670)
Mazworx discussion on facebook.

Let's get this straight. That solution was designed by Mike M. Not Mazworx. Mark did what he was asked to do. I doubt he does that again. I don't blame him if he chooses not too. Proper engine builds are not cheap.
If you contact Mazworx for an engine build, expect him to want to build it his way and the complete engine build. This is the only way he can stand behind his product.

Leingod 09-10-2020 10:06 AM

Is this the new Oct meet up thread? Idk what an engine build is, but I do know Spooler knows his stuff.

Spooler 09-10-2020 10:16 AM

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Originally Posted by Leingod (Post 3958681)
Is this the new Oct meet up thread? Idk what an engine build is, but I do know Spooler knows his stuff.

I don't know it all. I am constantly learning. That is what I enjoy.

Rusty 09-10-2020 10:34 AM

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Originally Posted by Spooler (Post 3958682)
I don't know it all. I am constantly learning. That is what I enjoy.

There is always something to learn.

Elmo370z 09-10-2020 12:14 PM

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Originally Posted by redondoaveb (Post 3958670)
Mazworx discussion on facebook.

Me and Mike got into it. Like spooler states mazworx didn’t build rjm blocks with mid sleeves, they were La dry sleeves that he didn’t recommend. Mike is such a snake, just like at the very beginning he stated he had no ties with Rjm.

Rusty 09-10-2020 12:51 PM

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Originally Posted by Elmo370z (Post 3958699)
Me and Mike got into it. Like spooler states mazworx didn’t build rjm blocks with mid sleeves, they were La dry sleeves that he didn’t recommend. Mike is such a snake, just like at the very beginning he stated he had no ties with Rjm.

They're swapping spit and taking long showers together. :icon14:

Spooler 09-10-2020 12:55 PM

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Originally Posted by Elmo370z (Post 3958699)
Me and Mike got into it. Like spooler states mazworx didn’t build rjm blocks with mid sleeves, they were La dry sleeves that he didn’t recommend. Mike is such a snake, just like at the very beginning he stated he had no ties with Rjm.

I read the first page above and the 2nd page again. No wonder I am not on MyFace.

Spooler 09-10-2020 01:16 PM

The guy that wants the 1000hp build, does he even have a turbo car now? If not, another Mall Crawler will be on the books. Good lord.


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