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madwi 07-21-2020 02:14 PM

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Originally Posted by Spooler (Post 3949782)
That is why I am leaning toward the suspension setup. it's free, may go with Phunks idea and raise the rear. I will have better traction and an even car at WOT.

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Spooler 07-21-2020 02:18 PM

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Originally Posted by madwi (Post 3949788)

LOL, that is Rusty's style.

Elmo370z 07-21-2020 02:38 PM

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Originally Posted by Hotrodz (Post 3949779)
I have never had issues with lift even at 160 and stock setup. Well the stock undertray came unbuttoned that is. Anyway, the only thing was that I was lower on Teng lowering springs. I have seen CFD rendering and the Nismo aero stops working at about 90 to 100mph and you start getting lift from that point. Lowering the car 1" significantly decreases drag and lift but it will still be a factor without a front splitter and removing area of high pressure. The hood vents remove the highest area of high pressure, the next place is the fenders. There is a reason all racecars have a way to remove high pressure from the wheel wells.

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A front splitter would cause drag. Front diffuser to create an area of low pressure. Reduce the opening to the radiator and IC to slow the air down and make it more efficient. Reason why all these big power 1/2 mile guys basically have the front end boxes off

Spooler 07-21-2020 02:51 PM

Whatever I do will not be noticeable. I will still look like stock. I don't need any unwanted attention.

Hotrodz 07-21-2020 03:26 PM

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Originally Posted by Elmo370z (Post 3949793)
A front splitter would cause drag. Front diffuser to create an area of low pressure. Reduce the opening to the radiator and IC to slow the air down and make it more efficient. Reason why all these big power 1/2 mile guys basically have the front end boxes off

It is all about what you want to accomplish. The air box is mostly about cooling efficiency. They will have a smaller opening than OEM. They will have short splitter and lowered in the front quite a bit to decrease drag. They will have undertray or a flat floor that also reduces drag due to less turbulence under the front of the car.

In road racing you are looking for mechanical grip and downforce to keep the car planted, there is a trade off on drag a top end. Straight line you want to reduce drag while optimizing mechanical grip, but you need enough downforce to keep the car planted.

Straight line is for fast cars, circuit racing is for fast drivers. To each their own, you know what I prefer!

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Spooler 07-21-2020 04:27 PM

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Originally Posted by Hotrodz (Post 3949779)
I have never had issues with lift even at 160 and stock setup. Well the stock undertray came unbuttoned that is. Anyway, the only thing was that I was lower on Teng lowering springs. I have seen CFD rendering and the Nismo aero stops working at about 90 to 100mph and you start getting lift from that point. Lowering the car 1" significantly decreases drag and lift but it will still be a factor without a front splitter and removing area of high pressure. The hood vents remove the highest area of high pressure, the next place is the fenders. There is a reason all racecars have a way to remove high pressure from the wheel wells.

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Another thing is I may have caused my own problems via adding brake ducts, Zspeed undertray, air direction panels that were removed due to TT install, and Tracspec vents. It may be due the increase in TQ causing more weight transfer. I don't know and that is what I am trying to figure out.

Spooler 07-21-2020 04:36 PM

I will give you an example of my experience. When I lost the first rectangular panel on the under tray that covers the 3 plastic rivets I could tell on the interstate that something was wrong and it definitely affected the aero.

Rusty 07-21-2020 05:51 PM

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Originally Posted by Spooler (Post 3949790)
LOL, that is Rusty's style.

Was. That's pretty close to my Dart. I had it tubbed and rear fenders trimmed back.

Elmo370z 07-21-2020 09:13 PM

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Originally Posted by Hotrodz (Post 3949802)
It is all about what you want to accomplish. The air box is mostly about cooling efficiency. They will have a smaller opening than OEM. They will have short splitter and lowered in the front quite a bit to decrease drag. They will have undertray or a flat floor that also reduces drag due to less turbulence under the front of the car.

In road racing you are looking for mechanical grip and downforce to keep the car planted, there is a trade off on drag a top end. Straight line you want to reduce drag while optimizing mechanical grip, but you need enough downforce to keep the car planted.

Straight line is for fast cars, circuit racing is for fast drivers. To each their own, you know what I prefer!

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Yup I agree. Spooler isn’t in it to track the car around corners.

Spooler 07-21-2020 09:33 PM

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Originally Posted by Elmo370z (Post 3949841)
Yup I agree. Spooler isn’t in it to track the car around corners.

I want to do whatever it is I want to at that time. A full time track only car is not one of the things I want. I can track the car if I want, I just want to have fun. If I want to come down to Sebring and run, I want to be able to do that. Tail of the Dragon, no problem. Half mile event, I am good. I may not be the fastest and I am good with that. I just want to enjoy life. Everybody else can fight over the scraps, bragging rights, whatever it is they do. Leave me out of it.

GeauxTigers1 07-22-2020 01:03 AM

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Originally Posted by Spooler (Post 3949258)
The OEM VLSD takes different stub axles than the OS Giken. When it was installed, if they just swapped them over, that is the problem. One needs to be changed.

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Originally Posted by Rusty (Post 3949294)
Here's a pic of the stub axles. The one in the middle gets replaced with the one on the right.

Dude this is it!! I’m fairly certain that didn’t get swapped out. Will relay this information, thank you!

Hotrodz 07-22-2020 01:49 PM

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Originally Posted by Elmo370z (Post 3949841)
Yup I agree. Spooler isn’t in it to track the car around corners.

LOL, I know what the Spooler man is up to as we talk this stuff offline quite a bit. I warned him about leaving his wheel well off!

All I am doing is just providing information that will help others regardless of what they do and to be clear about what may help or hurt in achieving whatever outcome you are seeking.

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Spooler 07-22-2020 03:55 PM

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Originally Posted by Hotrodz (Post 3949973)
LOL, I know what the Spooler man is up to as we talk this stuff offline quite a bit.
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LOL, Spooler is hurtin right now with a bad left knee.

JARblue 07-22-2020 03:59 PM

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Originally Posted by Hotrodz (Post 3949973)
I warned him about leaving his wheel well off!

I removed my fender liners and just put some speed holes in my front fenders with a pick axe :tup:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=whnms4CLJys

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=G3ja6Hn8ps4

Hotrodz 07-22-2020 04:01 PM

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Originally Posted by Spooler (Post 3949999)
LOL, Spooler is hurtin right now with a bad left knee.

Sorry to hear brother!

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Spooler 07-22-2020 04:09 PM

Car is coming right on along. I need this good news with everything else going on in my life. I am ready to hear her running again without coolant coming out the exhaust. Exciting times are on the way. This boost junkie needs his fix.

Spooler 07-22-2020 05:26 PM

Car will be tuned on Ignite Red (E90) this time and we will crank the boost up to 24 psi. That is as far as I am willing to push the stock plastic intake. I know some folks have ran 26 psi but I just don't have that kind of luck. If I had a metal one I could turn it up to 30 psi with no issues.

Elmo370z 07-22-2020 07:28 PM

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Originally Posted by Hotrodz (Post 3949973)
LOL, I know what the Spooler man is up to as we talk this stuff offline quite a bit. I warned him about leaving his wheel well off!

All I am doing is just providing information that will help others regardless of what they do and to be clear about what may help or hurt in achieving whatever outcome you are seeking.

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I follow in your foot steps

Spooler 07-23-2020 08:00 AM

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Originally Posted by Elmo370z (Post 3950071)
I follow in your foot steps

HotRodz has done lots of upgrades. His car is looking real good. I can't wait for him to get it back.

Spooler 07-23-2020 12:45 PM

New engine and trans is back in the car.

Spooler 07-23-2020 01:37 PM

Number 1 question asked by most everyone.

"Have you taken the engine apart to see what happened?"

The answer to that is no. No need to take it apart until I get ready to fix it. Losing parts scattered all over the place due to time is not something I enjoy. I have put many messes back together. I won't be making one of those.

Spooler 07-23-2020 04:34 PM

Car is running and new engine has been broke in. Next up, scheduling for the tune. Not sure how long that will take.

GeauxTigers1 07-23-2020 10:59 PM

Great news back!! (Sorry spooler for jacking your thread, mines years old and not nearly as great of a back and forth as this, hope you don’t mind)

So the LSD is fine, Did confirm we didn’t change out the stub axles BUT what happened (as far as I understand it) was the damn snap clip came off on the stub axles. This caused it to pop out of place resulting in my axles not having a connection. SO, looking for new clips but also going to put the correct stub axles with their property snap clips in there, anybody know how we find this? Just contact OSGiken or is there a Specific measurement we look at? Also! Might as well install the diff cooler while we are at it, z1? Or another recommended brand.

Rusty 07-23-2020 11:07 PM

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Originally Posted by GeauxTigers1 (Post 3950357)
Great news back!! (Sorry spooler for jacking your thread, mines years old and not nearly as great of a back and forth as this, hope you don’t mind)

So the LSD is fine, Did confirm we didn’t change out the stub axles BUT what happened (as far as I understand it) was the damn snap clip came off on the stub axles. This caused it to pop out of place resulting in my axles not having a connection. SO, looking for new clips but also going to put the correct stub axles with their property snap clips in there, anybody know how we find this? Just contact OSGiken or is there a Specific measurement we look at? Also! Might as well install the diff cooler while we are at it, z1? Or another recommended brand.

New stub axles should have a C-clip on them. Mine did. You need both of them?

Find someone who has changed their stub axles and see if they are willing to give up the C-clips. I would give you mind, but I had to use it on the new stud axle. I broke it. :( Also, contact Z1 to see if they have them. Nissan might have them too. Check a dealer. Bring donuts for the parts guys.

Spooler 07-23-2020 11:12 PM

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Originally Posted by GeauxTigers1 (Post 3950357)
Great news back!! (Sorry spooler for jacking your thread, mines years old and not nearly as great of a back and forth as this, hope you don’t mind)

So the LSD is fine, Did confirm we didn’t change out the stub axles BUT what happened (as far as I understand it) was the damn snap clip came off on the stub axles. This caused it to pop out of place resulting in my axles not having a connection. SO, looking for new clips but also going to put the correct stub axles with their property snap clips in there, anybody know how we find this? Just contact OSGiken or is there a Specific measurement we look at? Also! Might as well install the diff cooler while we are at it, z1? Or another recommended brand.

Contact Z1. They will know what stub axles you need and get you a new C clip. As far as the diff cooler, Get with MA-Motorsports. Jon is off tomorrow. Brian is holding down the fort.

GeauxTigers1 07-24-2020 12:51 AM

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Originally Posted by Spooler (Post 3950361)
Contact Z1. They will know what stub axles you need and get you a new C clip. As far as the diff cooler, Get with MA-Motorsports. Jon is off tomorrow. Brian is holding down the fort.

Hell yes, thanks fellas, I knew I’d be pointed in the right direction here!

Spooler 07-24-2020 02:25 PM

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Originally Posted by GeauxTigers1 (Post 3950366)
Hell yes, thanks fellas, I knew I’d be pointed in the right direction here!

Glad to be of service. Now if I can get my knee fixed up, I will be banging some gears in a short period of time. I will be able to get my boost fix.

JARblue 07-24-2020 02:36 PM

ZSpeed also has the stub axles :twocents:

Spooler, sorry to hear about the knee. Will hope for good news for you :tiphat:

Spooler 07-24-2020 03:58 PM

I am going hoarse. I have been making engine sounds and turbo noises all day. UGG!!!!

Spooler 07-24-2020 09:35 PM

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Originally Posted by JARblue (Post 3950504)
ZSpeed also has the stub axles :twocents:

Spooler, sorry to hear about the knee. Will hope for good news for you :tiphat:

Yeah, it has to be my clutch leg. Freaking sucks.

Spooler 07-24-2020 09:42 PM

Guess I will be driving the Freshkiicks crowd crazy in the near future. It will be entertaining, that is for sure.

cv129 07-24-2020 09:49 PM

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Originally Posted by Spooler (Post 3950574)
Guess I will be driving the Freshkiicks crowd crazy in the near future. It will be entertaining, that is for sure.

:excited::excited::excited:

blueranger 07-26-2020 05:31 PM

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Originally Posted by Spooler (Post 3950574)
Guess I will be driving the Freshkiicks crowd crazy in the near future. It will be entertaining, that is for sure.

From what I have seen he only does "rolls" and no 1/4 mile track runs. A few Z fanboys have tagged him on my 1320 runs with no bites.

Spooler 07-26-2020 09:01 PM

Too be honest with you all, I like Freshkiicks. He is passionate about his Z. Not only that, he does what he likes and doesn't look back. I can relate to that and so can many other on here. Hotrodz and I are both exactly like that. After watching him on Youtube, I enjoy most of his content. Maybe the 1320 is not his cup of tea. I know it is not mine. I can do it but I am not passionate about it. His followers are something else.

jchammond 07-26-2020 09:35 PM

Hopefully your knee will gets better, as you’re gonna have a Z to pick up soon :ugh2:

Spooler 07-26-2020 11:40 PM

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Originally Posted by jchammond (Post 3950924)
Hopefully your knee will gets better, as you’re gonna have a Z to pick up soon :ugh2:

It won't be anytime soon. It is not getting better. I can't even make it into town driving my truck without sever pain.

Whjaxn17 07-27-2020 10:19 AM

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Originally Posted by Spooler (Post 3950905)
Too be honest with you all, I like Freshkiicks. He is passionate about his Z. Not only that, he does what he likes and doesn't look back. I can relate to that and so can many other on here. Hotrodz and I are both exactly like that. After watching him on Youtube, I enjoy most of his content. Maybe the 1320 is not his cup of tea. I know it is not mine. I can do it but I am not passionate about it. His followers are something else.

That's my take as well. He seems chill enough, but his fanbase has kind of turned me off of his page. There are so many kids that just feel the need to be a groupie and are unnecessarily aggressive if you're not him, but I guess that's just the internet now.

I'm glad the car is coming along much quicker this time. We're all ready to see that spaceship of yours back in action.

blueranger 07-27-2020 09:09 PM

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Originally Posted by Spooler (Post 3950905)
Too be honest with you all, I like Freshkiicks. He is passionate about his Z. Not only that, he does what he likes and doesn't look back. I can relate to that and so can many other on here. Hotrodz and I are both exactly like that. After watching him on Youtube, I enjoy most of his content. Maybe the 1320 is not his cup of tea. I know it is not mine. I can do it but I am not passionate about it. His followers are something else.

Correct... Nothing wrong with his passion just his fanboyz are something else.

GeauxTigers1 07-29-2020 12:47 PM

Got my Stub axle and Diff cooler on the way! Thanks fellas for pointing me in the right direction! Figured Az heat and the few days I want to track, might as well have it done right with the damn heat.

Hotrodz 07-29-2020 04:06 PM

Since this thread used to sharp right turns and s few thread jacks I will post one of my own. My Z is with Seb and the motor is out and has been diagnosed!

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