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URBiN~HURMiT 12-31-2019 07:26 PM

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Originally Posted by Spooler (Post 3898222)
You may find this interesting.


Daelen recommended the Darton Sleeves for my build … Haven't driven the car enough to see how they are holding up. Did have a fair amount of glitter with the first oil change tho'

Spooler 12-31-2019 07:45 PM

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Originally Posted by URBiN~HURMiT (Post 3898234)
Daelen recommended the Darton Sleeves for my build … Haven't driven the car enough to see how they are holding up. Did have a fair amount of glitter with the first oil change tho'

The glitter is to be expected with the first few oil changes on a new build. Mine was less noticeable at the 3rd oil change. It was looking good.

TopgunZ 12-31-2019 09:50 PM

How was your guys piston slap? Mine sounds like a damn diesel, not only on start up, but all the time.

Do you consume oil?

Spooler 12-31-2019 10:44 PM

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Originally Posted by TopgunZ (Post 3898254)
How was your guys piston slap? Mine sounds like a damn diesel, not only on start up, but all the time.

Do you consume oil?

I had no piston slap at all due to the custom designed Diamond pistons MA uses. They had it with the first build they did, opened it back up, found out why, and fixed it. I was using just a little bit of oil but that is to be expected with a looser build than stock. Saw it at around 2000 miles on the oil. 2500 miles I was changing it due to running E85 all the time.

Mr.Squeeze 01-01-2020 09:55 AM

Sorry to hear that this has happened to you Spooler this just really blows and is painful to read.

Spooler 01-01-2020 10:12 AM

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Originally Posted by Mr.Squeeze (Post 3898306)
Sorry to hear that this has happened to you Spooler this just really blows and is painful to read.

The waiting in line to get it fixed is what sucks the most.

Spooler 01-01-2020 01:08 PM

Here is another very informative video.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DJtdX7tsKwk

Mr.Squeeze 01-01-2020 05:50 PM

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Originally Posted by Spooler (Post 3898309)
The waiting in line to get it fixed is what sucks the most.

I know all about waiting in line I'm in the same boat.

Spooler 01-01-2020 05:57 PM

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Originally Posted by Mr.Squeeze (Post 3898355)
I know all about waiting in line I'm in the same boat.

Were you using the RJM closed deck? If so, I have gotten reports of the cylinders still moving with them and head gaskets blowing. Guess the machine shops were correct in stating that you just can't get them in tight enough to support the cylinder.

phunk 01-01-2020 06:47 PM

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Originally Posted by TopgunZ (Post 3898254)
How was your guys piston slap? Mine sounds like a damn diesel, not only on start up, but all the time.

Do you consume oil?

If you used a stock bore piston, that can be sort of typical. They will often arrive too small to meet recommended piston to wall clearance for their alloy. I learned the hard way with that on the first VQ build I ever did for a customer. I had never used stock bore pistons before, but he supplied some he purchased online. My machinist who was setting up the clearances told me they came in on the loose side but that it would be OK, so I proceeded. On first start-up I heard it immediately. I couldn't return a car sounding like that. A day or two later I tore it all back down and rebuilt the engine again out of pocket. Changed the piston setup so we could achieve proper piston to wall clearance. Sounded great and the car went on to live happily ever after.

With correct piston to wall clearance, you shouldn't notice much (sometimes depending on exact alloy used), if any, more piston slap. Perhaps on a real cold start.

JARblue 01-01-2020 07:29 PM

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Originally Posted by phunk (Post 3898361)
I couldn't return a car sounding like that. A day or two later I tore it all back down and rebuilt the engine again out of pocket. Changed the piston setup so we could achieve proper piston to wall clearance. Sounded great and the car went on to live happily ever after.

You, sir, are a King among men :tiphat:

Mr.Squeeze 01-01-2020 07:40 PM

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Originally Posted by Spooler (Post 3898357)
Were you using the RJM closed deck? If so, I have gotten reports of the cylinders still moving with them and head gaskets blowing. Guess the machine shops were correct in stating that you just can't get them in tight enough to support the cylinder.

Yes I have the RJM closed deck block. I can't confirm yet if the block was the cause hasn't been torn down yet. The only I can confirm is the car was running hot / high water temperature and there was a lot of smoke from the oil catch can. This was under normal driving conditions.

Bman427 01-01-2020 07:46 PM

I doubt this is any different than the RJM block, but has anyone tried the CSS deck support? Pretty reasonable at $895 but zero clue if it works...

Spooler 01-01-2020 07:51 PM

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Originally Posted by Bman427 (Post 3898371)
I doubt this is any different than the RJM block, but has anyone tried the CSS deck support? Pretty reasonable at $895 but zero clue if it works...

I am not sure.

Spooler 01-01-2020 07:58 PM

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Originally Posted by Mr.Squeeze (Post 3898370)
Yes I have the RJM closed deck block. I can't confirm yet if the block was the cause hasn't been torn down yet. The only I can confirm is the car was running hot / high water temperature and there was a lot of smoke from the oil catch can. This was under normal driving conditions.

How many psi of boost did you push it on the dyno. The magic number seems to be 24psi when everything goes to crap. Mine crap out
a whole lot sooner due to no close deck at all.


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