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redondoaveb 11-24-2021 01:49 PM

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Originally Posted by Spooler (Post 4014447)
Not a bunch of data on a VQ37VHR twin turbo. The data I have shows me where I need to go. Where those turbos will run out I do not know until we test it.

FWIW, Tial technical support is top notch. They were working intently with me on my bov flutter issue. Couldn't ask for a better company to work with.

Spooler 11-24-2021 04:18 PM

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Originally Posted by redondoaveb (Post 4014450)
FWIW, Tial technical support is top notch. They were working intently with me on my bov flutter issue. Couldn't ask for a better company to work with.

My choices are limited with the Fast Intention cast manifolds. The right thing to do would be to have a set of custom tubular exhaust manifolds made and put in a pair of G35-900. Unfortunately, money will limit what I do. I do not have an unlimited budget.

redondoaveb 11-24-2021 04:45 PM

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Originally Posted by Spooler (Post 4014459)
My choices are limited with the Fast Intention cast manifolds. The right thing to do would be to have a set of custom tubular exhaust manifolds made and put in a pair of G35-900. Unfortunately, money will limit what I do. I do not have an unlimited budget.

At your power level you almost need an unlimited budget :tup:

Spooler 11-24-2021 05:42 PM

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Originally Posted by redondoaveb (Post 4014461)
At your power level you almost need an unlimited budget :tup:

It would make things go faster, that is for sure. I am making do, it just takes longer.

Mr.Squeeze 11-24-2021 07:46 PM

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Originally Posted by Spooler (Post 4014418)
Cause I keep going in circles until I think about it enough. I just looked at a Carbon Z post on Instagram. Looks like the response is good. Like I have said, I am very picky when it comes to turbos.

The Video that he posted a month ago where he's doing part throttle and hits 16 psi of boost ?

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Spooler 11-24-2021 07:59 PM

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Originally Posted by Mr.Squeeze (Post 4014486)
The Video that he posted a month ago where he's doing part throttle and hits 16 psi of boost ?

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Yup

Mr.Squeeze 11-24-2021 09:54 PM

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Originally Posted by Spooler (Post 4014459)
My choices are limited with the Fast Intention cast manifolds. The right thing to do would be to have a set of custom tubular exhaust manifolds made and put in a pair of G35-900. Unfortunately, money will limit what I do. I do not have an unlimited budget.

AMS uses these on there Alpha 15 kits with huge 4inch intakes and 3.5 inch down pipes. Doing something like that in Z for sure would be all custom would be a bad*** setup though

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Spooler 11-26-2021 04:53 PM

Well, I have driven it twice since the last O2 code. No issues. As long as I get the cylinder temps up, all is well. It does have something to do with the fuel I am running since I do not run pump E85. Vince warned me of it when he tuned the car. He said to look out for a little stumble until I get the cylinder temps up. The only time I get an O2 code is when i putt around.

Spooler 11-29-2021 07:59 AM

Down to my last barrel of E90. About time to order some more. LOL Thank goodness I don't have to put my car away like you folks do up north. I would be miserable. Nick's startup map works like a champ. Starts first try.

Wuero370z 11-30-2021 12:15 PM

Carbon z posted his car for sale with his turbo specs listed


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Spooler 11-30-2021 12:26 PM

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Originally Posted by Wuero370z (Post 4014932)
Carbon z posted his car for sale with his turbo specs listed


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WOW, oh well. Guess he is giving up. Where did he post it?

Spooler 11-30-2021 12:39 PM

I will never sell mine. When I build one, I normally keep it forever.

Wuero370z 11-30-2021 12:51 PM

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Originally Posted by Spooler (Post 4014935)
WOW, oh well. Guess he is giving up. Where did he post it?


Facebook. Says he’s gunna put it on bring a trailer if someone from the Z group doesn’t want it


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Elmo370z 11-30-2021 01:25 PM

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Originally Posted by Wuero370z (Post 4014938)
Facebook. Says he’s gunna put it on bring a trailer if someone from the Z group doesn’t want it


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75k for a car the will still blow up. Rjm **** is crap. There closed deck blocks are 25/75 at best. VR30 crowd is finding out how bad it is.

Spooler 11-30-2021 01:45 PM

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Originally Posted by Elmo370z (Post 4014943)
75k for a car the will still blow up. Rjm **** is crap. There closed deck blocks are 25/75 at best. VR30 crowd is finding out how bad it is.

So RJM is making closed decks for VR30? That is quite comical if so.

Spooler 11-30-2021 03:47 PM

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Originally Posted by Elmo370z (Post 4014943)
75k for a car the will still blow up. Rjm **** is crap. There closed deck blocks are 25/75 at best. VR30 crowd is finding out how bad it is.

Are guys already turning them up that far to lift the heads? If so, WOW.

Whjaxn17 12-01-2021 10:49 AM

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Originally Posted by Spooler (Post 4014959)
Are guys already turning them up that far to lift the heads? If so, WOW.

AMS has an 800hp package for the Qs.

Elmo370z 12-01-2021 11:29 AM

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Originally Posted by Spooler (Post 4014959)
Are guys already turning them up that far to lift the heads? If so, WOW.

They didn’t lift heads. The block failed.

Elmo370z 12-01-2021 11:29 AM

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Originally Posted by Whjaxn17 (Post 4014998)
Yeah, AMS has an 800hp package for the Qs.

They are also working on a lA sleeved long blovk package

Spooler 12-01-2021 11:53 AM

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Originally Posted by Elmo370z (Post 4015004)
They didn’t lift heads. The block failed.

WOW, a block that is worse than the VQ. Where did it fail? Sleeve or did it crack between the head stud and main studs?

Elmo370z 12-01-2021 04:07 PM

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Originally Posted by Spooler (Post 4015006)
WOW, a block that is worse than the VQ. Where did it fail? Sleeve or did it crack between the head stud and main studs?

Rjm deck failed

Spooler 12-01-2021 06:02 PM

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Originally Posted by Elmo370z (Post 4015033)
Rjm deck failed

??? Would need to see pictures. If they are saying the sleeve is still moving, that is the same as what would happen with the VQ.

NeverBoneStck 12-01-2021 06:17 PM

I actually purchased a RJM block. How is it failing??

Spooler 12-01-2021 06:39 PM

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Originally Posted by NeverBoneStck (Post 4015047)
I actually purchased a RJM block. How is it failing??

The RJM closed deck is just pressed in. The CSS close deck is acutally machined into the block with a 3 or 4 axis CNC. The RJM still allows the sleeves to move too much. The fix will be what SOHO does with the top fuel hoops and the CSS closed deck. Mark at Mazworx is upgrading his engine setup right now. It will be in the testing phase sometime soon.

NeverBoneStck 12-01-2021 06:40 PM

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Originally Posted by Spooler (Post 4015048)
The RJM closed deck is just pressed in. The CSS close deck is acutally machined into the block with a 3 or 4 axis CNC. The RJM still allows the sleeves to move too much. The fix will be what SOHO does with the top fuel hoops and the CSS closed deck. Mark at Mazworx is upgrading his engine setup right now. It will be in the testing phase sometime soon.

Well ****. Thanks for letting me know.

Mr.Squeeze 12-01-2021 06:42 PM

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Originally Posted by Wuero370z (Post 4014932)
Carbon z posted his car for sale with his turbo specs listed


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He's selling his car and doesn't even know what size turbos he has lol. He has it posted with twin 68mm turbos on Facebook and Instagram that's not even close to the correct size.

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Spooler 12-01-2021 06:45 PM

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Originally Posted by NeverBoneStck (Post 4015049)
Well ****. Thanks for letting me know.

That info is buried back in my thread somewhere. I thought the Mazworx setup would hold but it didn't the way he built my engine. I am tired of being the test mule. Whatever I do next time has to be proven. SOHO is the only one to have done that for now. I am sure Mark will get it.

Elmo370z 12-01-2021 07:08 PM

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Originally Posted by Spooler (Post 4015045)
??? Would need to see pictures. If they are saying the sleeve is still moving, that is the same as what would happen with the VQ.

Cannot provide. He deleted it after showing me. If rjm doesn’t handle the situation in house I’m sure Fb will announce it

Elmo370z 12-01-2021 07:09 PM

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Originally Posted by NeverBoneStck (Post 4015047)
I actually purchased a RJM block. How is it failing??

Don’t know why you would ever purchase anything from rjm.

Spooler 12-01-2021 07:11 PM

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Originally Posted by Elmo370z (Post 4015056)
Cannot provide. He deleted it after showing me. If rjm doesn’t handle the situation in house I’m sure Fb will announce it

Protect the crook. LOL

NeverBoneStck 12-01-2021 07:34 PM

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Originally Posted by Elmo370z (Post 4015057)
Don’t know why you would ever purchase anything from rjm.

Had no clue there was issues

Spooler 12-01-2021 07:54 PM

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Originally Posted by NeverBoneStck (Post 4015062)
Had no clue there was issues

As long as it is not in the car you have a couple of choices on how you want to address it. If the engine is already machined and assembled just keep the boost turned down to around 800whp or lower depending on what other stuff you have done and what compression ratio you are running.

DrBacon 12-01-2021 08:52 PM

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Originally Posted by Spooler (Post 4015051)
That info is buried back in my thread somewhere. I thought the Mazworx setup would hold but it didn't the way he built my engine. I am tired of being the test mule. Whatever I do next time has to be proven. SOHO is the only one to have done that for now. I am sure Mark will get it.

When they pull your engine apart out of curiosity ask them if the head studs were loose. I've seen it happen with plenty of arp lube and torqued to 95lbs after a couple hundred miles they loosen up, no one has been able to really give me a straight up answer as to why that happens. ARP claims you don't need to retorque them after the first heat cycle, and honestly very few people probably do considering the amount of work required to do so.

Spooler 12-01-2021 09:16 PM

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Originally Posted by DrBacon (Post 4015073)
When they pull your engine apart out of curiosity ask them if the head studs were loose. I've seen it happen with plenty of arp lube and torqued to 95lbs after a couple hundred miles they loosen up, no one has been able to really give me a straight up answer as to why that happens. ARP claims you don't need to retorque them after the first heat cycle, and honestly very few people probably do considering the amount of work required to do so.

Not sure what the torque setting of the headstuds were. I would think they were set higher than 95 ft/lbs. But that is info that is keep close by the builder. We won't know their process or their TQ settings. Not something that is given out.

Spooler 12-01-2021 09:21 PM

As far as me giving up any secrets. I won't do it. I paid for it. If you want that knowledge in your engine, you can do the same. Or you can do it as many times as it takes to get it right.

NeverBoneStck 12-01-2021 09:36 PM

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Originally Posted by Spooler (Post 4015064)
As long as it is not in the car you have a couple of choices on how you want to address it. If the engine is already machined and assembled just keep the boost turned down to around 800whp or lower depending on what other stuff you have done and what compression ratio you are running.

Not in the car yet. Has been assembled. Not sleeved. Compression is 10.1

Spooler 12-01-2021 09:38 PM

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Originally Posted by NeverBoneStck (Post 4015079)
Not in the car yet. Has been assembled. Not sleeved. Compression is 10.1

What whp are you shooting for? That will determine if it will hold or not.

Elmo370z 12-01-2021 09:41 PM

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Originally Posted by NeverBoneStck (Post 4015062)
Had no clue there was issues

Google history will tell
You. Id sell that crap junk and buy a css.

NeverBoneStck 12-01-2021 09:44 PM

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Originally Posted by spooler (Post 4015080)
what whp are you shooting for? That will determine if it will hold or not.

800

Spooler 12-01-2021 09:49 PM

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Originally Posted by NeverBoneStck (Post 4015082)
800

Pop a high-quality MLS on it and use ARP 625's. It will last for a while. That is right where the danger zone starts.


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