[Build Thread] -- Journey to 700+ WHP [Supercharger]

[turtle64b]

Originally Posted by cupcakez

Where did you and how much was your 34 row cooler

If I get a v7 I cant use topz a2a kit. Means either I sell it to someone or, not lol.
Also, It isnt within my budget yet to get a v7
As much as I want to, unless the trade in value is not a lot and within like 1500 usd + the blower itself, i wont get a v7. or i can sell the a2a kit get 1500 back and trade in blower still be willing to spend 1500 that was gna go toward 928, that is also a possibility.

Does vortech do trade ins...? I only have about 6k miles on the SC lmao

I think they dont take v3 SCi superchargers that I can find...it only takes v1s it looks like and v2s?

Maybe Im tripping lol, I may call them and ask.

Also, you said the 928 upgrade is theoretically better than a v7 ysi? no way haha I would think the v7 ysi is better than the v3 sci 928 premium upgrade no? or am i tripping again lol

I got my oil cooler from a guy who bought it and then sold his car or something before he could put it on for $500 shipped.

I don't know about trading the V3 in, but it may be worth the phone call.

I said that the V3 with the 928 upgrade could spin faster than the V7 but the flow rate from the V7 was more.

[milkcow500]

Vortech will give you $500-$1000 credit for a trade in, which is a joke. I literally asked them for an impeller and O-Rings and they told me that my unit needs "major repair" and is not worth keeping.

Frozenboost sells oil coolers for dirt cheap btw if you want to piece one together yourself.

[cupcakez]

Originally Posted by turtle64b

I got my oil cooler from a guy who bought it and then sold his car or something before he could put it on for $500 shipped.

I don't know about trading the V3 in, but it may be worth the phone call.

I said that the V3 with the 928 upgrade could spin faster than the V7 but the flow rate from the V7 was more.

So pretty much its like the situation with the v3/v7 head units vs the C38R coming out?

efficiency vs flow rate...hmm...

makes me think should i also invest in the c38r or not haha

[rsingher]

Thanks greatly for the pulley Upgrades ideas and thank you to TopGunz for the 928 recommendation upgrade also. That is just so wild about the car breaking down on your sisters birthday, sometimes the world works in strange ways haha. I greatly appreciate all the help and I'm very soon going to pull the trigger on the air to air kit along with the 1050 injectors after looking so deeply into it and gaining some better understanding of it all. I will document the process as much as I can.

Also, I totally agree on your path of doing everything before adding power. That is exactly what I have done also for the past 3 years of the car. Everything even to the fly wheel and clutch have been upgraded so I figured, I might as well squeeze a little more out of the Stillen kit with the proven adaptations that we are seeing now.

I hope to hear and see more of your z's progress soon here to come!
Best,
Rajvir

[TopgunZ]

Originally Posted by cupcakez

So pretty much its like the situation with the v3/v7 head units vs the C38R coming out?

efficiency vs flow rate...hmm...

makes me think should i also invest in the c38r or not haha

So it sounds like you plan to buy a V7, c38r and the RJ mfg whipple...lol..

[cupcakez]

Originally Posted by TopgunZ

So it sounds like you plan to buy a V7, c38r and the RJ mfg whipple...lol..

LOL
You right huh.... I didn't notice that til you said that xD
Noooo I'm not that crazy!
I just can't decide which one to get after maxing out the V3 SCi ... x_X

[cupcakez]

IPP Stage IV Update:

I messaged Kyle and he said they just got the custom pistons in last week! (11.0:1 CR)

He will go to the machine shop tomorrow and see what's up -- try to get a firm ETA on it for me and then let me know, and then I will let /you/ guys know!

Super excited. Getting closer!

Also, I have a mobile mechanic that is going to rebuild the supercharger for me this coming Friday using the 928 parts (Impeller & Seals / Bearings) that I ordered from 928motorsports.

I did not know there is instructions for installing and rebuilding it.

https://928motorsports.com/installpd...on_Vortech.pdf

https://928motorsports.com/installpd...ealinstall.pdf

- It has torque specs and everything which is super helpful.

[ReflectingG0d]

Hope your stage 3 long block lasts longer than mine did. Mine failed after 700 miles.

[ByThaBay]

Originally Posted by ReflectingG0d

Hope your stage 3 long block lasts longer than mine did. Mine failed after 700 miles.

IPP block? What happened?

[cupcakez]

Originally Posted by ReflectingG0d

Hope your stage 3 long block lasts longer than mine did. Mine failed after 700 miles.

You should still have it under warranty unless you drove 700 miles in more than a year.

Did you talk to Kyle about the warranty and it being covered?

And how long ago was it that your Stage 3 blew out?

[ReflectingG0d]

Originally Posted by cupcakez

You should still have it under warranty unless you drove 700 miles in more than a year.

Did you talk to Kyle about the warranty and it being covered?

And how long ago was it that your Stage 3 blew out?

Depends who you ask. He says a foreign object made it's way into the cylinder, everyone else (including the machine shop it's at currently) says it was an issue with the valves/valve guides. Kyle chose not to warranty the motor, and wanted to charge me $2500 plus a new cylinder head to repair it. This happened a couple months ago and I am now looking to get it repaired locally. The car ran for 3 weeks under the break in instructions before failing. Never saw boost or even 4500 RPM.

[cupcakez]

Originally Posted by ReflectingG0d

Depends who you ask. He says a foreign object made it's way into the cylinder, everyone else (including the machine shop it's at currently) says it was an issue with the valves/valve guides. Kyle chose not to warranty the motor, and wanted to charge me $2500 plus a new cylinder head to repair it. This happened a couple months ago and I am now looking to get it repaired locally. The car ran for 3 weeks under the break in instructions before failing. Never saw boost or even 4500 RPM.

So I ended up changing it to a stage 4. I just forgot to edit it. I will edit it shortly.
Thats weird how he chose not to warranty it. Is there a reason why he said no?
Did he say to send it in and they can look at it or ?

I decided to source my block today from RJM.
I just purchased a bare closed deck short block with an added crank and a set of VVEL Heads 370z.
They will ship it by the end of this week to Kyles' shop and assemble it probably and hopefully next week.

I think its going to go well. Its closed deck so it will be strong. They say closed decks can hold up to 40+ psi and is for boosted applications.

The thing about IPP is that all the blocks they build are open. Therefore it is prone to fail if on a boosted application.

RJM told me they have had 5 IPP blocks sent to them for rebuilding in the past 6 months. That scared the crap out of me so I decided to go with a closed deck last second lol.

And I trust RJM because they make sick stuff lately lol.
Successful. Stuff.

[ReflectingG0d]

Originally Posted by cupcakez

So I ended up changing it to a stage 4. I just forgot to edit it. I will edit it shortly.
Thats weird how he chose not to warranty it. Is there a reason why he said no?
Did he say to send it in and they can look at it or ?

I decided to source my block today from RJM.
I just purchased a bare closed deck short block with an added crank and a set of VVEL Heads 370z.
They will ship it by the end of this week to Kyles' shop and assemble it probably and hopefully next week.

I think its going to go well. Its closed deck so it will be strong. They say closed decks can hold up to 40+ psi and is for boosted applications.

The thing about IPP is that all the blocks they build are open. Therefore it is prone to fail if on a boosted application.

RJM told me they have had 5 IPP blocks sent to them for rebuilding in the past 6 months. That scared the crap out of me so I decided to go with a closed deck last second lol.

And I trust RJM because they make sick stuff lately lol.
Successful. Stuff.

Yeah I had it sent to him for inspection and he denied it. Piece of **** motor.
No warranty. 5 in 6 months huh? I wonder if he's ever honored a warranty lol. Hope yours lasts longer. The issue was with the valves, not the bottom end, so a stronger block wouldn't have saved it.

[cupcakez]

Originally Posted by ReflectingG0d

Yeah I had it sent to him for inspection and he denied it. Piece of **** motor.
No warranty. 5 in 6 months huh? I wonder if he's ever honored a warranty lol. Hope yours lasts longer. The issue was with the valves, not the bottom end, so a stronger block wouldn't have saved it.

Thanks man. I hope itll go well too.
Hopefully I dont have a valve issue.
And im pretty sure a 3 vs 5 angle valve job is no visible difference haha

[solidus]

Originally Posted by cupcakez

So I ended up changing it to a stage 4. I just forgot to edit it. I will edit it shortly.
Thats weird how he chose not to warranty it. Is there a reason why he said no?
Did he say to send it in and they can look at it or ?

I decided to source my block today from RJM.
I just purchased a bare closed deck short block with an added crank and a set of VVEL Heads 370z.
They will ship it by the end of this week to Kyles' shop and assemble it probably and hopefully next week.

I think its going to go well. Its closed deck so it will be strong. They say closed decks can hold up to 40+ psi and is for boosted applications.

The thing about IPP is that all the blocks they build are open. Therefore it is prone to fail if on a boosted application.

RJM told me they have had 5 IPP blocks sent to them for rebuilding in the past 6 months. That scared the crap out of me so I decided to go with a closed deck last second lol.

And I trust RJM because they make sick stuff lately lol.
Successful. Stuff.

No hate but I hope to hell they are'nt doing your block next week. I've been waiting 8 weeks already and was told the delay was with work orders from winter projects. It is noteworthy though that RJM said they've had 5 blocks sent to them in 6 weeks. Either way I've already spent the near 10k on the motor and if it pops at 18psi for any reason I'll just get a new one , however I'd never let a chance slide by to state the facts. They way I see it a warranty on an item like this is something that you'll either get freely or you have to argue for it. I view it like arguing with a cook that your soup tastes bad and then demanding another bowl. I learned years ago in a Wendy's drive through that that's a bad idea. I complained about what was on a Bacon double cheeseburger from the drive through. The manager offered a new burger which I accepted and went home without checking. Get home and just for grins pulled the bun off to look. There was about 9 inches of hair weave curled up under all the mayonaise . Chalked it up to education and made 3 tasty and delicious PBJ's. These engine packages are all about faith. Trusting that there's a valve job, trusting there are JWT cams and they're C2's and not C1's. Trusting that the pistons are really 10:1 like I ordered and not 9:1 standard cuts or OEM 11:1. In cases like this Trust but verify is a bit awkward and I've heard the stories , but for myself I'll have faith until my faith is demonstrated to be bad judgement.