[Build Thread] -- Journey to 700+ WHP [Supercharger]

[sirnixalot]

Originally Posted by cupcakez

Thanks man. Yeah, for sure. He and Eugene are friends, and both of them are people who defs I can trust in taking care of the car.

Also my other friend who also is a personal friend of Husams will be helping as well.

It will definitely be taken care of.
Two people who know the kit inside out and who have done the install, and one person who will be tuning it and help with the build if he wants to as well since it most likely will be at the tuners shop as per his idea if hes still down with it, otherwise... it will be at my house without a lift lol

No lift life SUCKS. Can't wait to see the results, gonna have to go easy on that AT though

[cupcakez]

Originally Posted by sirnixalot

No lift life SUCKS. Can't wait to see the results, gonna have to go easy on that AT though

Definitely agree with you sir!

No lift = Life sucks, can't agree more lol.

And yup, I will definitely get a boost controller and limit it to 10 - 12 psi max until I get the RJM fully built transmission! haha.

[cupcakez]

My friend noticed that one of the impeller fins is bent a little bit, from the inside. The scammer dude hit the impeller on something. Thing is that they can probably fix it he is guessing. He said he doesnt think its a big deal, its at the edge of the impeller.

I told him if its like that they will highly likely replace the entire impeller lol.

What do you think?

He said its barely noticeable, very very small bend. The scammer hit it on something most likely.

I called 928 and notified them when it should be arriving (the 12th) so he said he knows its coming soon and its already scheduled in. Yay

And yeah, Vortech wouldnt touch my blower lol so thats why I decided to send to 928.

Im going to just use what they give me back for now but will eventually save up and upgrade to the Novi 2200x blower, and figure out a way for an air filter to fit on that with our cars, since that uses same bracket as the current v3s, and is the counter part blower to the V7-Ysi-Billet blower.

Maybe sell the fully upgraded working 928 blower down the road as well when I change blowers.

[Rusty]

If you try to bend it back. It may crack at the base of the bend. That's been my experience with impellers.

[cupcakez]

Originally Posted by Rusty

If you try to bend it back. It may crack at the base of the bend. That's been my experience with impellers.

Yep. Not touching it. Ill let 928 deal with it and inspect it to see if its worth fixing or replacing.
Honestly if I have to get a new impeller so be it.
I know for sure im paying for a new oil slinger since its not even in there.

For impeller, not sure but ill be prepared to pay for a new one.

And for bearings it should be fine since they both are im there brand new just not put in properly due to it spinning not freely as it should as it gets caught up in something as you try to spin it.

And for seals, I sent the rear seal since we didnt put that in, and the front seal was put in and still brand new.

So hopefully at max they charge me 700 total or so for everything.

We will see though!

[cupcakez]

Got a call back from Carl at 928motorsports regarding my blower.

He told me it is not repairable by them due to the impeller shims / washers missing. This caused the impeller to hit the casing and metal shards to be transferred.

He said the transmission part is still good to go (the housing) but the impeller may need rebalancing.

He also stated that it needs an oil slinger, unless whoever takes this will want to make it externally oil fed, then they do not need an oil slinger.

The bearings and the seals are still fine as well.

I told him to ship it back to me since the expensive ceramic bearings are still good. At least, I could sell those, if not the entire head unit as is to someone for a very cheap price.

I am willing to let it go for $200 - $300, the entire thing as is.

If still interested, let me know.

Thanks!


I will also be saving up for the next few months for the Paxton Novi 2200x Supercharger, built by ECS (East Coast Superchargers)

Since it is the same bolt pattern as our current bracket, I can fit it into our car.

I just need to find out a plausible solution for an air filter to fit.

/blower sold.

[cupcakez]

... Long Awaited Update ...

Hey guys! Cupcakez here! Just wanted to give you guys an update on my car.

I know you have all been /DYING/ to know what has been going on.
I'm still alive folks! Just been a very large struggle in the past month or two to try to prepare everything to make sure the car is up and running in one go.

So earlier this month, I had to buy pulleys from Stillen for the SC bracket. It turns out that during a blower swap last year, I happened to accidentally swap brackets with my friend and the bracket he had did not have the bottom idler pulley that goes on the SC bracket, nor did it have the stock top idler pulley next to the jackshaft 9psi pulley. Oops! ...So I ordered the stock pulley assembly from Oreilleys and got the pulley the next morning since the warehouse wasn't too far away from the actual Oreilly's shop.

The install went smooth. I was extremely excited... only to find out that the bottom idler pulley of the SC bracket was missing! Everything was fine, up until we ran into the issue that is caused none other than myself. I have nobody to blame, not even luck itself, but myself. We are missing an idler pulley that goes to the left of the subaru idler pulley on the Supercharger bracket. Friend A did an amazing job today and, as always, goes above and beyond every time he works on my car. I love the guy, don't know what I'd do without him in terms of my car running or not. So thankful that my tuner ByThaBay introduced me to him last year. One of very few best, most honest and caring people I met last year.

We finished installing the Quaife differential first. Then we ran into the issue of attempting to pit the rear subframe on. One side would be flush while the other remained gapped for a mysterious reason. Only to find out that the gap was caused by the actual subframe being slightly bent (probably from a speed bump I went over causing the back to be scraped? Or maybe I bought the car like that, not sure!)
But he fixed the issue by bending it back through a funny method that worked lol. K so now the rear is done - exhaust, brace, and subframe all snug.

Onto the Supercharger assembly and install.
We had issues fitting it in the vehicle, as it had to be clocked multiple times until we got it to fit exactly where it needed to be. Took a while but he did it! And then during the assembly, we find out that we are missing a bolt and washer for the supercharger pulley, lol. So I freak out, Adel calms me down and says we could get it at Oreilleys or Autozone. We head to Oreilleys and he carries the entire bracket assembly with the supercharger head unit on into the store, LOL. We go in, and the store manager helps us out by finding the exact bolt needed to fit inside the pulley. At first we couldn't find the right size and thread. Dude opens up a $12 package thinking it has the right bolt we need only to find out.. it isn't in that package! LOL. Then we switch to looking at metric sizes and low and behold, we find the correct size and threaded bolt! Haha. Bought a pack of those and a pack of washers, headed home, fixed up the bracket assembly and it goes in the car!

Only issue preventing me from starting the car is an idler pulley in which another friend saves my day and immensely helps me out by helping me find where I can get one. Thankfully he found one from Oreilleys and so I called them and ordered it, and they said it would be in the store tomorrow morning at around 11:15 AM. I am super lucky for this to have happened.

Now I'm onto worrying about the bottom idler pulley, the specs of it, the hardware, where the heck do I get it?!?!

After /Over 9000/ phone call spams to Stillen and countless e-mail spams, I finally hope this is the last straw for what I need in order for my poor little sweet Mustard Zeed to live again! I told them exactly what I needed. Should be at my house in 2 days or less. If any of these parts still do not fit where it is supposed to go, then....it's all bad!

We are almost there. I'm thinking...
"Stillen, please do not make me regret doing business with you!"

The last time my sweet little mustard Zeed was working was early October 2018 then I got screwed over with the local mechanic who scammed my money and broke my blower, and didn't tell me about it. Got a replacement blower only to have it taken away 1 day later because my friend found out he needed to give it back to the shop he took it from lol, I got my money back for that.
Sold my blower in late December for a steal price of $250 to a local person.

Then Mr. Kao sold me his V3 Ti blower and I finally got it last week.

Put that bad boy in the car, swapped over my Quaife LSD at the same time.

Started up the car today and here's a video!

After 4 months of struggling and endless issues, the light of the end of the tunnel has been found. Video speaks for itself. A huge thank you to my mechanically inclined friends Friend A, Friend B & my tuner 'ByThaBay' my who played a huge part in getting this to work. Im super thankful to each of them and also very very thankful to those friends who I raged, complained, QQ'd, and cried to in the last 4 months for always positively supporting me. Couldn't have done it without each and every one of you.

Nice to see you again my sweet sweet baby mustard Zeed!

https://vimeo.com/317386271

^--------PROOF THE CAR WORKS-------^


The only issues that I can see right now after daily driving the car for about an hour around town is...

(1) Minor oil leak from the front of the car: I saw some small oil drops on the garage floor. Need to get that checked out to see where it's coming from.

(2) The oil temperature...Not sure if the oil cooler is working anymore even though it was working the last time I drove it and we didn't even touch it since then! It would not go past 180 degrees back then, but now it would stay at around 195 - 200 when casually driving it around town. Not sure what changed. Maybe something is leaking in the oil cooler or idk!

(3) The coolant temperature used to stay around 90 degrees Celcius the last time it was working. Today, it was sticking around 99 - 102 degrees Celcius. Not sure if that's bad. But it could also be due to a few air bubbles still in the system and the large amounts of water we poured into the car to add "coolant" to it. I may just take it to Nissan to have them do a complete flush and fill up of proper anti-freeze again since where I work it snows sometimes (as it snowed last two weeks, so I definitely cannot have pure water as my coolant in the system if I am to be in that weather parked for 3.5 days straight).

(4) The serpentine belt got skidded a bit due to it being way too close to the overflow tank in the front of the engine bay. I will just trim off that tiny part of the overflow tank to make sure it doesn't touch the belt again -- that would be terrible to have a semi-eaten up serpentine belt in which my overflow tank ate up due to both of them being way too close to each other!

(5) I have a few more things to install later this year:
- Polyurethane engine mount
- AAM Oil Pan Spacer Kit
- New Brake Pads & Rotors (Planning to get genuine Akebono brake rotors and stuff)

Other than that, I will be spending the rest of this year driving her safe, paying everything off and then think about saving up for a house, and /THEN/ I will do phase 2 upgrades of this car (Upgraded 7AT, Return Fuel System unless I need it earlier then I will get it, etc)

Thank you guys for following my thread and staying with me this entire time.
It's been a really rough ride so far but 2018 is over and I am really hoping I don't have 2018 luck anymore.
2019 has been treating me way better than 2018 has so far and I hope it stays that way!

[Rusty]

"We finished installing the Quaife differential first. Then we ran into the issue of attempting to pit the rear subframe on. One side would be flush while the other remained gapped for a mysterious reason. Only to find out that the gap was caused by the actual subframe being slightly bent (probably from a speed bump I went over causing the back to be scraped? Or maybe I bought the car like that, not sure!)
But he fixed the issue by bending it back through a funny method that worked lol. K so now the rear is done - exhaust, brace, and subframe all snug."

Let me get this straight. You dropped the sub-frame to change the LSD in the diff? Correct? The only time to drop the sub-frame is to change the bushings. You don't have to drop it to work on the diff.

So installing the sub-frame. You ran into a problem. I just got done installing the SPL sub-frame bushing in my Z. From what I went through. One of the studs caused the sub-frame to hang up. Bet the same thing happened to you. Your sub-frame wasn't bent. If it was. You have a major problem with the body being twisted, and you have a bunch of bent suspension pieces.

[cupcakez]

Originally Posted by Rusty

"We finished installing the Quaife differential first. Then we ran into the issue of attempting to pit the rear subframe on. One side would be flush while the other remained gapped for a mysterious reason. Only to find out that the gap was caused by the actual subframe being slightly bent (probably from a speed bump I went over causing the back to be scraped? Or maybe I bought the car like that, not sure!)
But he fixed the issue by bending it back through a funny method that worked lol. K so now the rear is done - exhaust, brace, and subframe all snug."

Let me get this straight. You dropped the sub-frame to change the LSD in the diff? Correct? The only time to drop the sub-frame is to change the bushings. You don't have to drop it to work on the diff.

So installing the sub-frame. You ran into a problem. I just got done installing the SPL sub-frame bushing in my Z. From what I went through. One of the studs caused the sub-frame to hang up. Bet the same thing happened to you. Your sub-frame wasn't bent. If it was. You have a major problem with the body being twisted, and you have a bunch of bent suspension pieces.

No sorry. I forgot that my friend came last month to install the bushings. He also changed out the center bushing as well which was a *$&#$& to do.
That's why the story didn't make sense!
It's all whiteline now! Haha. Even the center one! I have the old broken cut out one as a trophy in my garage!!!

And yeah , I think you're right about the subframe cuz all the other pieces wasn't bent at all lol. ^^

[Rusty]

Originally Posted by cupcakez

No sorry. I forgot that my friend came last month to install the bushings. He also changed out the center bushing as well which was a *$&#$& to do.
That's why the story didn't make sense!
It's all whiteline now! Haha. Even the center one! I have the old broken cut out one as a trophy in my garage!!!

And yeah , I think you're right about the subframe cuz all the other pieces wasn't bent at all lol. ^^

You changed out the 3 diff bushings AND the 4 sub-frame bushings that mount to the body?

[cupcakez]

Originally Posted by Rusty

You changed out the 3 diff bushings AND the 4 sub-frame bushings that mount to the body?

Nah it was just the center bushing since on the subframe since the LSD From red Z was being swapped in which already had all the other white bushings in the diff case.

We also ran into the issue of bolts for the diff to the axles. The bolts we had that was on the red Z was a tad too short for the Yellow 09 Z which was odd. So I had to go to Fastenal (bolt place) and buy the same type of bolt but a bit longer (10 of them in total I think it was). Even then when we put it in it was a bit difficult, had to use a vice grip to hold one spot in place while we put the new longer bolts in.

[cupcakez]

Lol.

i went for some driving right now cuz theres nobody out and i heard a PLAP! and all the sudden lights turned off, got really foggy in my car cuz it was drizzling rain, and battery light turns on, brake light turns on. steering wheel becomes stiff because power steering is no longer in session. so thankfully i was like 5 min away from home so i drove home and i made it home safely.

opened the hood.

found out the serpentine belt slipped off the system.
OOPS!!!!

You can also see the belt how it was rubbing against the overflow tank, lol.
I need to really sand that part down of the overflow tank that way it won't happen again.

Going to try to find out what the cause of this belt slipping off was.

I was driving it all day today under casual daily driving conditions -- no hard pulls or anything and it was fine. The moment I made 9psi and pushed it a bit hard, i heard the PLAP!

So it seems under high RPMS it slipped, but low RPMS it was fine.
Hmm.... I wonder what the issue is.

Possible Causes I can think of:
(1) One or more of the three pulley bolts we touched was not torqued down enough (Bottom Idler, Top Idler on the SC bracket / 9 PSI pulley on jackshaft serpentine side).

(2) Whole bracket was not tight enough so it flexed and caused this to slip off?

(3) Auto-tensioner went bad somehow?

(4) Any one have any other ideas?


Also, does anyone know what the torque specs are for these pulleys? Are they all the same or are they different for each pulley?

I have the two idler pulleys on the front of the SC bracket (Top stock one, and bottom idler pulley of the SC bracket). Then I have the 9psi pulley. I looked as much as I could but could not find any information on the torque specs for these pulleys on the bracket. Even the Stillen SC manual does not state it!)

Thanks guys!

PS -- I understand that as the belt is heated up it expands in diameter a tiny bit, so maybe that's what could have caused it? No idea.
Any feedback is welcome and thanked!!

[cupcakez]

Found out that the compressor Idler pulley popped off last night during my 9psi pull. LOL
Getting a replacement

[solidus]

Damn !!! I thought I was gonna be the King of "If it can go wrong" for life and here I am dethroned in a couple posts.

[Rusty]

Originally Posted by solidus

Damn !!! I thought I was gonna be the King of "If it can go wrong" for life and here I am dethroned in a couple posts.

Murphy has nothing on this boy.