Nissan 370Z Forum  

[Build Thread] -- Journey to 700+ WHP [Supercharger]

The standard 8 rib belt wouldn’t work with the 3.47” jackshaft and 3” supercharger pulley? Thought that was kind of standard setup.

Go Back   Nissan 370Z Forum > Nissan 370Z Tech Area > Engine & Drivetrain > Forced Induction


Like Tree1043Likes

Reply
 
LinkBack Thread Tools Display Modes
Old 10-31-2018, 04:03 PM   #316 (permalink)
Base Member
 
G3RSTY7's Avatar
 
Join Date: Aug 2017
Location: Colorado
Posts: 103
Drives: Infiniti G37s 6MT
Rep Power: 8
G3RSTY7 is on a distinguished road
Default

The standard 8 rib belt wouldn’t work with the 3.47” jackshaft and 3” supercharger pulley? Thought that was kind of standard setup.
__________________
09 G37S RWD 6MT, Topgunz Supercharger, CJM RFS, Walbro 450, 1050x, Nismo 1.5way LSD, Ecutek FF tuned by Seb IG: G3RSTY7 MyG37.com: RickyBobby
G3RSTY7 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 10-31-2018, 05:40 PM   #317 (permalink)
A True Z Fanatic
 
redondoaveb's Avatar
 
Join Date: Apr 2017
Location: So. Commiefornia
Posts: 6,366
Drives: 2014 Nismo Gunmetal
Rep Power: 2684374
redondoaveb has a reputation beyond reputeredondoaveb has a reputation beyond reputeredondoaveb has a reputation beyond reputeredondoaveb has a reputation beyond reputeredondoaveb has a reputation beyond reputeredondoaveb has a reputation beyond reputeredondoaveb has a reputation beyond reputeredondoaveb has a reputation beyond reputeredondoaveb has a reputation beyond reputeredondoaveb has a reputation beyond reputeredondoaveb has a reputation beyond repute
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by G3RSTY7 View Post
The standard 8 rib belt wouldn’t work with the 3.47” jackshaft and 3” supercharger pulley? Thought that was kind of standard setup.
I didn't have to change my belt when I went with that combo. Did you get your bpv silencer?
__________________
Fast Intentions "Stage Seb" twin turbo #098- Specialty Z/Tial-Xonarotor/CJM/Ecutek/HKS/KW/SPL/Hotchkis/Rohana/Toyo
700+whp
redondoaveb is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 10-31-2018, 08:17 PM   #318 (permalink)
Track Member
 
Join Date: Oct 2017
Location: California
Posts: 635
Drives: 2009-7AT-Base-Coup
Rep Power: 4836
cupcakez has a reputation beyond reputecupcakez has a reputation beyond reputecupcakez has a reputation beyond reputecupcakez has a reputation beyond reputecupcakez has a reputation beyond reputecupcakez has a reputation beyond reputecupcakez has a reputation beyond reputecupcakez has a reputation beyond reputecupcakez has a reputation beyond reputecupcakez has a reputation beyond reputecupcakez has a reputation beyond repute
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by G3RSTY7 View Post
The standard 8 rib belt wouldn’t work with the 3.47” jackshaft and 3” supercharger pulley? Thought that was kind of standard setup.
When I tried this combination... we found fitment issues for it and needed spacers or something IIRC.

So we only used the 3.0" pulley and didn't use the 3.47 or maybe it was the other way around, can't remember.
__________________
|| ECUTEK (Eugene) || A2A || IPP Built Motor Stage IV Spec || RJM Short Block || Quaife LSD || KW V3 || Stillen-Exhaust || 11.0.1 CR || 928 Full Rebuild || CPZ 34 Row Oil Cooler ||
cupcakez is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 10-31-2018, 08:28 PM   #319 (permalink)
A True Z Fanatic
 
redondoaveb's Avatar
 
Join Date: Apr 2017
Location: So. Commiefornia
Posts: 6,366
Drives: 2014 Nismo Gunmetal
Rep Power: 2684374
redondoaveb has a reputation beyond reputeredondoaveb has a reputation beyond reputeredondoaveb has a reputation beyond reputeredondoaveb has a reputation beyond reputeredondoaveb has a reputation beyond reputeredondoaveb has a reputation beyond reputeredondoaveb has a reputation beyond reputeredondoaveb has a reputation beyond reputeredondoaveb has a reputation beyond reputeredondoaveb has a reputation beyond reputeredondoaveb has a reputation beyond repute
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by cupcakez View Post
When I tried this combination... we found fitment issues for it and needed spacers or something IIRC.

So we only used the 3.0" pulley and didn't use the 3.47 or maybe it was the other way around, can't remember.
If you change the jackshaft pulley on the sc side then you have to add a spacer to the sc pulley and idler pulley. The stock jackshaft pulley that Stillen used isn't a Vortech pulley and has a different offset.
__________________
Fast Intentions "Stage Seb" twin turbo #098- Specialty Z/Tial-Xonarotor/CJM/Ecutek/HKS/KW/SPL/Hotchkis/Rohana/Toyo
700+whp
redondoaveb is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 10-31-2018, 08:30 PM   #320 (permalink)
Track Member
 
Join Date: Oct 2017
Location: California
Posts: 635
Drives: 2009-7AT-Base-Coup
Rep Power: 4836
cupcakez has a reputation beyond reputecupcakez has a reputation beyond reputecupcakez has a reputation beyond reputecupcakez has a reputation beyond reputecupcakez has a reputation beyond reputecupcakez has a reputation beyond reputecupcakez has a reputation beyond reputecupcakez has a reputation beyond reputecupcakez has a reputation beyond reputecupcakez has a reputation beyond reputecupcakez has a reputation beyond repute
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by redondoaveb View Post
If you change the jackshaft pulley on the sc side then you have to add a spacer to the sc pulley and idler pulley. The stock jackshaft pulley that Stillen used isn't a Vortech pulley and has a different offset.
^ That was the issue. xD Yup. Haha.
redondoaveb likes this.
__________________
|| ECUTEK (Eugene) || A2A || IPP Built Motor Stage IV Spec || RJM Short Block || Quaife LSD || KW V3 || Stillen-Exhaust || 11.0.1 CR || 928 Full Rebuild || CPZ 34 Row Oil Cooler ||
cupcakez is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 11-01-2018, 12:22 PM   #321 (permalink)
Track Member
 
Join Date: Oct 2017
Location: California
Posts: 635
Drives: 2009-7AT-Base-Coup
Rep Power: 4836
cupcakez has a reputation beyond reputecupcakez has a reputation beyond reputecupcakez has a reputation beyond reputecupcakez has a reputation beyond reputecupcakez has a reputation beyond reputecupcakez has a reputation beyond reputecupcakez has a reputation beyond reputecupcakez has a reputation beyond reputecupcakez has a reputation beyond reputecupcakez has a reputation beyond reputecupcakez has a reputation beyond repute
Default

@Redondo.

If I wanted to use a 3.0" and 3.47" pulley combination, which pulley spacer kit would I need from the photo attached from 928motorsports?

And these kits would work for like a 2.85" as well or nah?
Attached Images
File Type: jpg Pulley Spacers.JPG (120.4 KB, 12 views)
__________________
|| ECUTEK (Eugene) || A2A || IPP Built Motor Stage IV Spec || RJM Short Block || Quaife LSD || KW V3 || Stillen-Exhaust || 11.0.1 CR || 928 Full Rebuild || CPZ 34 Row Oil Cooler ||

Last edited by cupcakez; 11-01-2018 at 12:25 PM.
cupcakez is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 11-01-2018, 12:31 PM   #322 (permalink)
A True Z Fanatic
 
redondoaveb's Avatar
 
Join Date: Apr 2017
Location: So. Commiefornia
Posts: 6,366
Drives: 2014 Nismo Gunmetal
Rep Power: 2684374
redondoaveb has a reputation beyond reputeredondoaveb has a reputation beyond reputeredondoaveb has a reputation beyond reputeredondoaveb has a reputation beyond reputeredondoaveb has a reputation beyond reputeredondoaveb has a reputation beyond reputeredondoaveb has a reputation beyond reputeredondoaveb has a reputation beyond reputeredondoaveb has a reputation beyond reputeredondoaveb has a reputation beyond reputeredondoaveb has a reputation beyond repute
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by cupcakez View Post
@Redondo.

If I wanted to use a 3.0" and 3.47" pulley combination, which pulley spacer kit would I need from the photo attached from 928motorsports?

And these kits would work for like a 2.85" as well or nah?
I ordered the kit which came with the spacer that had to be cut because I didn't know what what the offset difference was. I'm not sure what the thickness of my spacer ended up being, I never asked my installer.

Yes, they work with the 2.85 also, they are based on shaft diameter, not pulley size.
"Z"en likes this.
__________________
Fast Intentions "Stage Seb" twin turbo #098- Specialty Z/Tial-Xonarotor/CJM/Ecutek/HKS/KW/SPL/Hotchkis/Rohana/Toyo
700+whp
redondoaveb is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 11-01-2018, 01:20 PM   #323 (permalink)
Track Member
 
Join Date: Oct 2017
Location: California
Posts: 635
Drives: 2009-7AT-Base-Coup
Rep Power: 4836
cupcakez has a reputation beyond reputecupcakez has a reputation beyond reputecupcakez has a reputation beyond reputecupcakez has a reputation beyond reputecupcakez has a reputation beyond reputecupcakez has a reputation beyond reputecupcakez has a reputation beyond reputecupcakez has a reputation beyond reputecupcakez has a reputation beyond reputecupcakez has a reputation beyond reputecupcakez has a reputation beyond repute
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by redondoaveb View Post
I ordered the kit which came with the spacer that had to be cut because I didn't know what what the offset difference was. I'm not sure what the thickness of my spacer ended up being, I never asked my installer.

Yes, they work with the 2.85 also, they are based on shaft diameter, not pulley size.
Gotcha.

I'll order the spacer then because I know I'll be needing it in the future for whatever blower I end up getting.

It's good to know that the kit is based on the shaft diameter and not the pulley size.

Since we both have the same brackets, then I should be in the same boat as you.

Thanks!
__________________
|| ECUTEK (Eugene) || A2A || IPP Built Motor Stage IV Spec || RJM Short Block || Quaife LSD || KW V3 || Stillen-Exhaust || 11.0.1 CR || 928 Full Rebuild || CPZ 34 Row Oil Cooler ||
cupcakez is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 11-01-2018, 04:04 PM   #324 (permalink)
A True Z Fanatic
 
redondoaveb's Avatar
 
Join Date: Apr 2017
Location: So. Commiefornia
Posts: 6,366
Drives: 2014 Nismo Gunmetal
Rep Power: 2684374
redondoaveb has a reputation beyond reputeredondoaveb has a reputation beyond reputeredondoaveb has a reputation beyond reputeredondoaveb has a reputation beyond reputeredondoaveb has a reputation beyond reputeredondoaveb has a reputation beyond reputeredondoaveb has a reputation beyond reputeredondoaveb has a reputation beyond reputeredondoaveb has a reputation beyond reputeredondoaveb has a reputation beyond reputeredondoaveb has a reputation beyond repute
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by cupcakez View Post
Gotcha.

I'll order the spacer then because I know I'll be needing it in the future for whatever blower I end up getting.

It's good to know that the kit is based on the shaft diameter and not the pulley size.

Since we both have the same brackets, then I should be in the same boat as you.

Thanks!
Yep, definitely in the same boat. 😁
cupcakez likes this.
__________________
Fast Intentions "Stage Seb" twin turbo #098- Specialty Z/Tial-Xonarotor/CJM/Ecutek/HKS/KW/SPL/Hotchkis/Rohana/Toyo
700+whp
redondoaveb is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 11-01-2018, 04:36 PM   #325 (permalink)
Track Member
 
Join Date: Oct 2017
Location: California
Posts: 635
Drives: 2009-7AT-Base-Coup
Rep Power: 4836
cupcakez has a reputation beyond reputecupcakez has a reputation beyond reputecupcakez has a reputation beyond reputecupcakez has a reputation beyond reputecupcakez has a reputation beyond reputecupcakez has a reputation beyond reputecupcakez has a reputation beyond reputecupcakez has a reputation beyond reputecupcakez has a reputation beyond reputecupcakez has a reputation beyond reputecupcakez has a reputation beyond repute
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by redondoaveb View Post
Yep, definitely in the same boat. 😁
Since I blew up my belt.

I purchased this belt:
K080220

as a replacement.

This belt will be good enough to fit 3.0" jackshaft SC, 3.47" pulleys?

What belt part number do you have to fit your current 3.0 and 3.47 setup? assuming i had spacers too
__________________
|| ECUTEK (Eugene) || A2A || IPP Built Motor Stage IV Spec || RJM Short Block || Quaife LSD || KW V3 || Stillen-Exhaust || 11.0.1 CR || 928 Full Rebuild || CPZ 34 Row Oil Cooler ||
cupcakez is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 11-01-2018, 04:48 PM   #326 (permalink)
A True Z Fanatic
 
redondoaveb's Avatar
 
Join Date: Apr 2017
Location: So. Commiefornia
Posts: 6,366
Drives: 2014 Nismo Gunmetal
Rep Power: 2684374
redondoaveb has a reputation beyond reputeredondoaveb has a reputation beyond reputeredondoaveb has a reputation beyond reputeredondoaveb has a reputation beyond reputeredondoaveb has a reputation beyond reputeredondoaveb has a reputation beyond reputeredondoaveb has a reputation beyond reputeredondoaveb has a reputation beyond reputeredondoaveb has a reputation beyond reputeredondoaveb has a reputation beyond reputeredondoaveb has a reputation beyond repute
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by cupcakez View Post
Since I blew up my belt.

I purchased this belt:
K080220

as a replacement.

This belt will be good enough to fit 3.0" jackshaft SC, 3.47" pulleys?

What belt part number do you have to fit your current 3.0 and 3.47 setup? assuming i had spacers too
That's the correct belt, it works fine with with the 3.47 jackshaft and 3.00 sc pulley. The spacer has nothing to do with belt length. Gates does also make a heavier duty belt. The part number is K080220RPM. It's specifically made for forced induction.
__________________
Fast Intentions "Stage Seb" twin turbo #098- Specialty Z/Tial-Xonarotor/CJM/Ecutek/HKS/KW/SPL/Hotchkis/Rohana/Toyo
700+whp
redondoaveb is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 11-01-2018, 05:00 PM   #327 (permalink)
Track Member
 
Join Date: Oct 2017
Location: California
Posts: 635
Drives: 2009-7AT-Base-Coup
Rep Power: 4836
cupcakez has a reputation beyond reputecupcakez has a reputation beyond reputecupcakez has a reputation beyond reputecupcakez has a reputation beyond reputecupcakez has a reputation beyond reputecupcakez has a reputation beyond reputecupcakez has a reputation beyond reputecupcakez has a reputation beyond reputecupcakez has a reputation beyond reputecupcakez has a reputation beyond reputecupcakez has a reputation beyond repute
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by redondoaveb View Post
That's the correct belt, it works fine with with the 3.47 jackshaft and 3.00 sc pulley. The spacer has nothing to do with belt length. Gates does also make a heavier duty belt. The part number is K080220RPM. It's specifically made for forced induction.
Oh I saw that one too. The K080220 I just didn't know if that was better or worse than the one that I ordered.

Maybe I'll order that one too just for kicks. I mean can never have too many belts right? Haha. I'll thank myself later if I ordered extra belts!

#F.I.Life

Sweet. Cuz I was told by someone on the forum that if I went different pulley sizes I would need a different belt size which was tripping me up cause there's so many options for belt sizes out there T_T

G'thing you shared this information with me.

I appreciate that bro!
redondoaveb likes this.
__________________
|| ECUTEK (Eugene) || A2A || IPP Built Motor Stage IV Spec || RJM Short Block || Quaife LSD || KW V3 || Stillen-Exhaust || 11.0.1 CR || 928 Full Rebuild || CPZ 34 Row Oil Cooler ||
cupcakez is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 11-01-2018, 05:29 PM   #328 (permalink)
A True Z Fanatic
 
redondoaveb's Avatar
 
Join Date: Apr 2017
Location: So. Commiefornia
Posts: 6,366
Drives: 2014 Nismo Gunmetal
Rep Power: 2684374
redondoaveb has a reputation beyond reputeredondoaveb has a reputation beyond reputeredondoaveb has a reputation beyond reputeredondoaveb has a reputation beyond reputeredondoaveb has a reputation beyond reputeredondoaveb has a reputation beyond reputeredondoaveb has a reputation beyond reputeredondoaveb has a reputation beyond reputeredondoaveb has a reputation beyond reputeredondoaveb has a reputation beyond reputeredondoaveb has a reputation beyond repute
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by cupcakez View Post
Oh I saw that one too. The K080220 I just didn't know if that was better or worse than the one that I ordered.

Maybe I'll order that one too just for kicks. I mean can never have too many belts right? Haha. I'll thank myself later if I ordered extra belts!

#F.I.Life

Sweet. Cuz I was told by someone on the forum that if I went different pulley sizes I would need a different belt size which was tripping me up cause there's so many options for belt sizes out there T_T

G'thing you shared this information with me.

I appreciate that bro!
On the supercharger side if you change pulley sizes the only thing you might have to change is the idler pulley size, not belt size. I have the 3.47 jackshaft pulley with the 3.00 sc pulley. I'm using the 2.50 idler pulley. If I went to the 2.85 sc pulley with the 3.47 jackshaft I'd probably change the idler to a 3.00.
cupcakez likes this.
__________________
Fast Intentions "Stage Seb" twin turbo #098- Specialty Z/Tial-Xonarotor/CJM/Ecutek/HKS/KW/SPL/Hotchkis/Rohana/Toyo
700+whp
redondoaveb is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 11-01-2018, 05:43 PM   #329 (permalink)
Track Member
 
Join Date: Oct 2017
Location: California
Posts: 635
Drives: 2009-7AT-Base-Coup
Rep Power: 4836
cupcakez has a reputation beyond reputecupcakez has a reputation beyond reputecupcakez has a reputation beyond reputecupcakez has a reputation beyond reputecupcakez has a reputation beyond reputecupcakez has a reputation beyond reputecupcakez has a reputation beyond reputecupcakez has a reputation beyond reputecupcakez has a reputation beyond reputecupcakez has a reputation beyond reputecupcakez has a reputation beyond repute
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by redondoaveb View Post
On the supercharger side if you change pulley sizes the only thing you might have to change is the idler pulley size, not belt size. I have the 3.47 jackshaft pulley with the 3.00 sc pulley. I'm using the 2.50 idler pulley. If I went to the 2.85 sc pulley with the 3.47 jackshaft I'd probably change the idler to a 3.00.
Okay.

So what I'm getting from this information is:
Total area the belt surrounds with your current setup of:
- 3.47 Jackshaft SC sided pulley
- 3.00 Direct SC Blower pulley
- 2.50 SC Idler pulley
---------------------------------------------
Total: 8.97" inches of area that the pulleys are using up from the belt and it seems to work fine.

Then you said if you changed the 3.0" down to a 2.85" Direct SC Blower pulley, to compensate for the loss in size, you have to change another pulley and that pulley of choice would be your idler size -- and to upgrade it in size at that which you said a 3.00" idler pulley would do it.

This would give you a total of 9.32" inches of area that the pulleys would use up as opposed to your previous setup of 8.97".

I assume the idler pulley could be adjusted to compensate for the difference of .35" of area between the two setups?
redondoaveb likes this.
__________________
|| ECUTEK (Eugene) || A2A || IPP Built Motor Stage IV Spec || RJM Short Block || Quaife LSD || KW V3 || Stillen-Exhaust || 11.0.1 CR || 928 Full Rebuild || CPZ 34 Row Oil Cooler ||
cupcakez is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 11-01-2018, 06:09 PM   #330 (permalink)
A True Z Fanatic
 
redondoaveb's Avatar
 
Join Date: Apr 2017
Location: So. Commiefornia
Posts: 6,366
Drives: 2014 Nismo Gunmetal
Rep Power: 2684374
redondoaveb has a reputation beyond reputeredondoaveb has a reputation beyond reputeredondoaveb has a reputation beyond reputeredondoaveb has a reputation beyond reputeredondoaveb has a reputation beyond reputeredondoaveb has a reputation beyond reputeredondoaveb has a reputation beyond reputeredondoaveb has a reputation beyond reputeredondoaveb has a reputation beyond reputeredondoaveb has a reputation beyond reputeredondoaveb has a reputation beyond repute
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by cupcakez View Post
Okay.

So what I'm getting from this information is:
Total area the belt surrounds with your current setup of:
- 3.47 Jackshaft SC sided pulley
- 3.00 Direct SC Blower pulley
- 2.50 SC Idler pulley
---------------------------------------------
Total: 8.97" inches of area that the pulleys are using up from the belt and it seems to work fine.

Then you said if you changed the 3.0" down to a 2.85" Direct SC Blower pulley, to compensate for the loss in size, you have to change another pulley and that pulley of choice would be your idler size -- and to upgrade it in size at that which you said a 3.00" idler pulley would do it.

This would give you a total of 9.32" inches of area that the pulleys would use up as opposed to your previous setup of 8.97".

I assume the idler pulley could be adjusted to compensate for the difference of .35" of area between the two setups?
Yes, the Stillen bracket has a tension adjuster for the idler pulley.
cupcakez likes this.
__________________
Fast Intentions "Stage Seb" twin turbo #098- Specialty Z/Tial-Xonarotor/CJM/Ecutek/HKS/KW/SPL/Hotchkis/Rohana/Toyo
700+whp
redondoaveb is offline   Reply With Quote
Reply

Bookmarks


Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off
Trackbacks are On
Pingbacks are On
Refbacks are On


Similar Threads
Thread Thread Starter Forum Replies Last Post
GTM Stage 1.5 supercharger build snowsurfdirtx Forced Induction 197 05-07-2017 07:04 AM
RiD3_FaM0uS's Journey to 850+whp Build Thread Rid3_FaM0uS Member's 370Z Gallery 83 03-24-2017 06:06 PM
Fillerbunnie's GTM Stage 1 Supercharger build (Australian RHD) fillerbunnie Forced Induction 46 08-23-2015 02:07 AM
40th Stillen Supercharger Build Nism0 Forced Induction 51 03-23-2015 09:12 PM
THE "Lets argue about Bullitt's build with out ruining Bullitt's build thread" THREAD Reaper42 Forced Induction 14 01-22-2011 06:24 PM


All times are GMT -5. The time now is 05:33 PM.


Powered by vBulletin® Version 3.8.4
Copyright ©2000 - 2024, Jelsoft Enterprises Ltd.
Search Engine Optimization by vBSEO 3.6.0 PL2