Turbo oil drain problems w/AAM kit

JSur · 11-20-2018, 09:57 AM

I’ve never heard of this issue before. I’ve had the AAM kit on my car for over 30k miles now. The placement of the turbos are my least favorite thing about the kit but I haven’t had any issues.

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Spooler · 11-20-2018, 12:30 PM

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Originally Posted by JSur

I’ve never heard of this issue before. I’ve had the AAM kit on my car for over 30k miles now. The placement of the turbos are my least favorite thing about the kit but I haven’t had any issues.

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You are lucky.

Martijn_b · 11-20-2018, 06:54 PM

I am about to install my AAM kit in a few weeks. Just reading this today.

Can any of you guys give an as precise as possible description of proper clocking the turbos? Perhaps with a drawing or pictures? I would really like to get this right the first time..

Would be much appreciated!

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tonyHTX · 11-28-2018, 07:49 AM

I had the AAM smoking issues at idle like jwick said awhile back. We ended up putting an exapump to clear the return lines. Also my dipstick kept blowing out as well, it was fixed and held down with a spring.

After 3 years at 700+ whp I blew the head gasket at a road course. I'm currently rebuilding with FI Stage 3 TT as the 7163s weren't big enough.

Hopefully this info helps someone!

URBiN~HURMiT · 11-28-2018, 07:47 PM

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Originally Posted by tonyHTX

I had the AAM smoking issues at idle like jwick said awhile back. We ended up putting an exapump to clear the return lines. Also my dipstick kept blowing out as well, it was fixed and held down with a spring.

After 3 years at 700+ whp I blew the head gasket at a road course. I'm currently rebuilding with FI Stage 3 TT as the 7163s weren't big enough.

Hopefully this info helps someone!

Yep ... it did help me.
Can I ask where you mounted the exapump - the fittings, hose sizes, the configuration/integration into your system - and is it quiet ?
lol ... the 7163's weren't big enough ???

tonyHTX · 11-29-2018, 09:40 AM

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Originally Posted by URBiN~HURMiT

Yep ... it did help me.
Can I ask where you mounted the exapump - the fittings, hose sizes, the configuration/integration into your system - and is it quiet ?

I have a G37 Sedan, we put the oil cooler in the driver side of the bumper and the exapump behind it. It definitely was not quiet, but once the car was on and running it wasn't as noticeable.

Here you can see my backyard solution to the dipstick blowing out

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lol ... the 7163's weren't big enough ???

Yeah when I saw AAM themselves couldn't hit 1000whp on the 7163s, with a stroker, and upgraded intercooler I decided their upgrades were not cost effective enough for me.

Hopefully the FI Stage 3 Xona XR 65•64 will be big enough!

URBiN~HURMiT · 11-29-2018, 05:29 PM

Thanks for the info ... helps out a lot.
You only needed one of the Exa pumps ?
How did you incorporate both turbo's through the pump and then back to the ??? I have a catch can so I'm trying to figure this in to the equasion.

BTW - lol ... I like your exploding dip stick solution

jwick · 11-29-2018, 05:35 PM

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Originally Posted by URBiN~HURMiT

Thanks for the info ... helps out a lot.

You only needed one of the Exa pumps ?

How did you incorporate both turbo's through the pump and then back to the ??? I have a catch can so I'm trying to figure this in to the equasion.

BTW - lol ... I like your exploding dip stick solution

How does the oil from the turbo currently route, I assume back to the oil pan. If that’s one line back to the pan then there’s a tee tying the two together. Run that single line to the pump and then back to the oil pan. If it’s two lines back to the pan then tee them together to one line and run that to the pump. you might have to plug one hole if there’s two on the pan.

URBiN~HURMiT · 12-23-2018, 03:15 AM

I've been doing some further checking ... re the turbo smoke issue.
RB Racing makes a series of pumps with helical gears that look promising.
RB is a group of guys who are Bonneville racing enthusiasts with a passion for performance.
They are proud of their technology and products.

https://www.rbracing-rsr.com/oilsystems.htm

URBiN~HURMiT · 02-25-2019, 08:39 PM

***UPDATE***
The Scavenge Pump is now successfully installed and the car is completed and ready to be picked up.
Jon at MA-Motorsports says the the pump works as advertised and has dramatically reduce the Turbo Smoke issue.

"Carl and Brian went on a good long test drive on Friday. Everything seems to be working great.
The scavenge pump definitely helped with the oil smoke."

Unfortunately I don't have BEFORE and AFTER pics to show the difference but will comment when I pick up the car.
That might be in a week or 2 weather and work schedule depending.

The installation looks fantastic ... they mounted the pump behind the passengers side wheel well.
The plumbing and wiring were done by Shane - who is a bit of a craftsman I might add.
The Oil Filter is easily accessible for oil changes although in one photo the filter seems to be hopelessly surrounded by oil lines.
This scavenge pump is an RB Racing design and manufacture product...helical gears for quiet operation. These guys are consummate professionals and use their own products on the Bonneville Salt Flats as a proving ground.

https://www.rbracing-rsr.com/oilsystems.htm

MA-Motorsports added their logo for the custom installation.
Much of the massive amount of custom work done on the car by MA-M is 'hidden' from view.

My hat's off

to all of those who have played a positive role in making this build a reality.

Will post again once I get the car back and put it through it's paces.

Rusty · 02-25-2019, 09:03 PM

Martijn_b · 02-26-2019, 06:54 PM

Thanks for posting! Lookgs good, happy this worked well for you. I still hope i wont need it though..

Before the exa pump was placed. Did you run the Passenger side drain line "over" the oil filter, or underneath??

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URBiN~HURMiT · 02-26-2019, 09:08 PM

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Originally Posted by Martijn_b

Thanks for posting! Lookgs good, happy this worked well for you. I still hope i wont need it though..

Before the exa pump was placed. Did you run the Passenger side drain line "over" the oil filter, or underneath??

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Haven't seen the installation yet personally -- just these pics -- which show no oil lines over the filter. I did ask them about it and they assured me that there was plenty of room to access the filter for EZ oil changes...which is shown in the 3rd picture

Martijn_b · 03-05-2019, 07:04 PM

Smoke here as well :-(

Might go the exa pump route too. Which pump did they install? The std, super or superx?

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URBiN~HURMiT · 03-06-2019, 09:35 PM

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Originally Posted by Martijn_b

Smoke here as well :-(

Might go the exa pump route too. Which pump did they install? The std, super or superx?

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Will have to get back to you on this ... The model # isn't listed on my invoice.
I will most likely be going down to MA-M this Friday to do a final walk around before picking the car up ---OR--- having it shipped to NJ.

11-20-2018, 06:54 PM	#18 (permalink)
Martijn_b Enthusiast Member Join Date: Jan 2018 Location: Netherlands Posts: 280 Drives: 2010 370z MB 6MT Rep Power: 3786	I am about to install my AAM kit in a few weeks. Just reading this today. Can any of you guys give an as precise as possible description of proper clocking the turbos? Perhaps with a drawing or pictures? I would really like to get this right the first time.. Would be much appreciated! Verstuurd vanaf mijn SM-G950F met Tapatalk __________________ Instagram: Boosted_Fairlady

11-28-2018, 07:49 AM	#19 (permalink)
tonyHTX Enthusiast Member Join Date: Feb 2014 Location: Houston Posts: 254 Drives: Race, Repair, Repeat Rep Power: 4638	I had the AAM smoking issues at idle like jwick said awhile back. We ended up putting an exapump to clear the return lines. Also my dipstick kept blowing out as well, it was fixed and held down with a spring. After 3 years at 700+ whp I blew the head gasket at a road course. I'm currently rebuilding with FI Stage 3 TT as the 7163s weren't big enough. Hopefully this info helps someone! Rusty and URBiN~HURMiT like this. __________________ 2007 G37S [VQ37HR] Sedan 6MT - Fast Intentions Stage 3 TT - @ttv36 #tptoons

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URBiN~HURMiT Base Member Join Date: Jul 2017 Location: Northern New Jersey Posts: 156 Drives: 2009 370z 6MT Rep Power: 4621	Thanks for the info ... helps out a lot. You only needed one of the Exa pumps ? How did you incorporate both turbo's through the pump and then back to the ??? I have a catch can so I'm trying to figure this in to the equasion. BTW - lol ... I like your exploding dip stick solution Martijn_b likes this. __________________ - -*Z&I* ~~~~

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URBiN~HURMiT Base Member Join Date: Jul 2017 Location: Northern New Jersey Posts: 156 Drives: 2009 370z 6MT Rep Power: 4621	I've been doing some further checking ... re the turbo smoke issue. RB Racing makes a series of pumps with helical gears that look promising. RB is a group of guys who are Bonneville racing enthusiasts with a passion for performance. They are proud of their technology and products. https://www.rbracing-rsr.com/oilsystems.htm __________________ - -*Z&I* ~~~~

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11-20-2018, 09:57 AM	#16 (permalink)
JSur Base Member Join Date: Mar 2016 Location: Orlando Posts: 84 Drives: 2011 370z TT Rep Power: 9	I’ve never heard of this issue before. I’ve had the AAM kit on my car for over 30k miles now. The placement of the turbos are my least favorite thing about the kit but I haven’t had any issues. Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk

02-26-2019, 06:54 PM	#27 (permalink)
Martijn_b Enthusiast Member Join Date: Jan 2018 Location: Netherlands Posts: 280 Drives: 2010 370z MB 6MT Rep Power: 3786	Thanks for posting! Lookgs good, happy this worked well for you. I still hope i wont need it though.. Before the exa pump was placed. Did you run the Passenger side drain line "over" the oil filter, or underneath?? Verstuurd vanaf mijn SM-G950F met Tapatalk __________________ Instagram: Boosted_Fairlady

03-05-2019, 07:04 PM	#29 (permalink)
Martijn_b Enthusiast Member Join Date: Jan 2018 Location: Netherlands Posts: 280 Drives: 2010 370z MB 6MT Rep Power: 3786	Smoke here as well :-( Might go the exa pump route too. Which pump did they install? The std, super or superx? Verstuurd vanaf mijn SM-G950F met Tapatalk __________________ Instagram: Boosted_Fairlady Last edited by Martijn_b; 03-05-2019 at 07:09 PM.

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