Preparation for the STILLEN supercharger

Buddy Revell · 03-06-2010, 03:35 PM

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Originally Posted by Xan

For me the SC is just because I love the feeling of the G forces!

Haha, agreed. I don't really have an HP or timeslip goal. I just wanna mash the gas pedal and get that "oh, $hit!!!" feeling like Han Solo jumping to light speed in the Millennium Falcon, LOL

shumby · 03-06-2010, 03:37 PM

RCZ, you so funny

Buddy Revell · 03-06-2010, 03:38 PM

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Originally Posted by RCZ

There's definitely a big difference in the maturity levels between the folks that love gtm and the folks that prefer stillen.

Yes, making generalizations like that definitely shows maturity.

StillenZ · 03-06-2010, 04:04 PM

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Originally Posted by RCZ

There's definitely a big difference in the maturity levels between the folks that love gtm and the folks that prefer stillen.

I can definitely see what your saying here... The vibes in the thread are so much different in each. Not saying that one is better than another but I can feel clear differences in both... When its all said and done though who really cares... We all are here to see all the results from both S/C's and I personally can't freakin' wait for both company's to give more info.

I'm just hoping to have some type of forced induction in 1-2 mo's installed!! I look so forward to that first drive and the bigass smile on my face!

jmlenz · 03-06-2010, 04:14 PM

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Originally Posted by Buddy Revell

Yes, making generalizations like that definitely shows maturity.

+1

Red370 · 03-06-2010, 05:34 PM

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Originally Posted by Xan

Then you'd better start building the engine.

I'm not a drag expert, but I would think you would need +500 HP and torque at the wheels to get a 370 over the line in 11 seconds

I wouldnt say so, a good pair of slicks/DR's plus 400+ whp should do the trick, Z Eliminator is shooting for an 11.7, and with a 12.8 already posted with street tires and no boost, i'd say he could do it.

96bigbody · 03-06-2010, 05:39 PM

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Originally Posted by Xan

Then you'd better start building the engine.

I'm not a drag expert, but I would think you would need +500 HP and torque at the wheels to get a 370 over the line in 11 seconds

I think 450rwhp is enough to get into the 11's. A guy on here is running 12.8 @110 with around 310rwhp. Another is doing 12.7 @ 116 with bolt-ons and a 50 shot in 3rd gear. The 116 mph is good for 11's

Xan · 03-06-2010, 05:41 PM

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Originally Posted by Red370

I wouldnt say so, a good pair of slicks/DR's plus 400+ whp should do the trick, Z Eliminator is shooting for an 11.7, and with a 12.8 already posted with street tires and no boost, i'd say he could do it.

Comparing it to the 350Z

Fast Nissan 350Zs 1/4 Mile 0-60 Drag Racing - DragTimes.com

Top time running 11.080 has:
Horsepower @ wheels: 530.00
Torque @ wheels: 525.00

And is running MT ET Street's

96bigbody · 03-06-2010, 05:55 PM

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Originally Posted by Xan

Comparing it to the 350Z

Fast Nissan 350Zs 1/4 Mile 0-60 Drag Racing - DragTimes.com

Top time running 11.080 has:
Horsepower @ wheels: 530.00
Torque @ wheels: 525.00

And is running MT ET Street's

Also a 350z on there running 11.8 @ 124 with 345rwhp and 361 FtLb's. and

Xan · 03-06-2010, 06:15 PM

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Originally Posted by 96bigbody

Also a 350z on there running 11.8 @ 124 with 345rwhp and 361 FtLb's. and

I'd like to see a slip and dyno of that car....

Anyways this is a bit of topic and as I said I'm not a drag expert, but I know taking of a full second is a lot...

This might be a handy estimate: Calculators From RPM Outlet

stormcrow · 03-06-2010, 06:15 PM

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Originally Posted by G Fo12ce

Storm, not trying to pick a fight at all but here is how I see it. You aknowlege the G37 info may not be a relevant comparison with the Z (the car you have) yet you are still grinding him for the PSI #. It won't be long hang in there and stop pouting. The differences you pointed out in fuel deilvery ect may make a difference then the argument will have been pointless. Either way they are going to do what they want and he said no already...

They are not going to test every possible combo. If I were you (and I'm saying this becasue we have the same car) I'd be more concerned weather STILLEN will offer (or research the need for) a tune for NISMO models if need be. My car base line dyno'd around 300HP to the wheels bone stock and that's not all from a Nismo exhaust. The tune is differnet and makes a difference. Thier tune may or may not be ideal for your car.

I think you are missing some subtle points of my post. If the G37 kit is irrelevant to the 370Z kit, WHY can't the PSI used to create the posted dyno be revealed? Also, the fact that I have a NISMO edition doesn't affect this kit. Stillen will have no need to retune for our cars as the flash will be the same no matter what the OEM tune.

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Originally Posted by travisjb

+1 ... it's pretty easy to spot the difference between curiosity and mischief in these posts... amusing to a point, but I think we're beyond that point

Funny, this coming from you. Weren't you the one who suggested that I take my questions, comments and concerns into the Stillen thread instead of the GTM one?

For any of you that think I may be trolling or out for Stillen blood - I suggest you read all of my posts here. REALLY read them. You will see why I ask the questions I do and why I don't accept the trivial and vague answers. How many of you have purchased Stillen SC kits in the past? How many of you have spent over 4k only to find out that what you were promised wasn't what you received? I am willing to wager I am the only one. Also, for any of you that may want information on my true experience with Stillen and their SC kit, feel free to PM me.

Red370 · 03-06-2010, 06:17 PM

I seen that, it all comes down to the driver really. Also keep in mind that the autos shift much quicker than us 6MT guys can, also dropping time. The AT on the 350 was awful, nothing like the 7AT.

OMG37 · 03-06-2010, 07:10 PM

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Originally Posted by RCZ

I disagree. I think there is SO much more value in the Stillen kit considering the amount of testing and engineering that is currently going into this kit. If you are going to pay 5k+ for an SC, you aren't only considering price and hp figures. I have seen a lot of things that, to me, are worth much more than whatever dollar difference there is and that is even before we talk about the HP figures. Think about the fact that there is a water cooled intercooler inside the custom designed intake manifold. I'm not sure exactly where the comment about the "other" kit having more engineering going into it than the stillen one came from the other night....but I honestly fail to see how that is possible. I'm sure they will keep it competitive anyway.

I think when people are spending this much of their hard earned money they naturally tend to weigh many more aspects of the buying decision than they would for something cheaper. Price is never the #1 reason.

I'm going to agree with Travis and say this race is over.

You realize GTM has been working on the SC kit since pre-October right? They have been testing the kit on a 370Z since then as well. Do you have some inside information into how long Stillen has been working on their system? Because I do at GTM...

I think people will base their opinions on whatever they want...and it's unfortunate that some of them will be swayed by some of the garbage and just flat out bs that is spewed in forums.

I'm following this thread only because i'm interested in the development of both kits...but I wouldn't even dare try to imply that I know something I don't...

There are a few basic things that everyone will consider:

Price
Performance
Aesthetics (Looks)
Warranty Reservations/CARB

Reliability??? The systems are new...nobody can point a finger at which one is more reliable at this point.

You obviously think Stillen is amazing...I can tell by your sig...but try to refrain from unfounded opinion when you are trying to make an analysis please.

Here's what I've seen from both companies so far (correct me if I'm wrong):

GTM Stage 1 SC: 8PSI 420RWHP 330TQ - stock exhaust setup on a G37S 6MT Coupe - Price $4995.00 for Stage 1

Stillen SC (Stage ?): PSI? 422RWHP 310TQ - Stillen exhaust G37 Coupe 7AT - Price?

I haven't finished reading through the rest of the posts past this one, but feel free to correct me on anything I haven't read yet if you want.

travisjb · 03-06-2010, 07:20 PM

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Originally Posted by stormcrow

Funny, this coming from you. Weren't you the one who suggested that I take my questions, comments and concerns into the Stillen thread instead of the GTM one?...

How many of you have spent over 4k only to find out that what you were promised wasn't what you received? I am willing to wager I am the only one.

why do you assume my comment was directed at you?... just curious, is most of the world centered around you?

why do you believe you're the only one who has spent money and been disappointed?... perhaps you mean you're the only one ever to be dissapointed by a Stillen kit? yeah, that makes more sense

are you naturally vindictive? or just towards Stillen?

please share more of your valuable perspective

thanks

Z eliminator · 03-06-2010, 07:20 PM

400 to 410 rwhp 11.7 no problems.
When i go the track with my fully moded N/A set up i now feel that it might go 11.5 to 11.6 or lower.
Theres a lot more done to the car now. lighter, drag radials 305 35 18. horse power will be around 305 t0 307, 65 to 70 lbs lighter than before. the car was very light before and now i took more weight out of it Rims tires, braile battery driver lost 10 lb and no washer fluid.
time will tell
1st to go 13.20 @ 103 / 265 rwhp with a posted time slip.
1st to go 12.95 @ 110.92 / 292 rwhp with posted time slips
1st to go 12.8009 @ 110.32 / 292 rwhp with posted time slips

There is another 370 7 AT that ran a 13.1 with a stock set up and he posted a time slip
he ran after me, Congratulations to him. If you look at the magazines that post
1/4 mile times have never posted a time slip.

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Red370 A True Z Fanatic Join Date: Jul 2009 Location: Kaiserslautern, Germany Posts: 4,391 Drives: your mom to church Rep Power: 296	I seen that, it all comes down to the driver really. Also keep in mind that the autos shift much quicker than us 6MT guys can, also dropping time. The AT on the 350 was awful, nothing like the 7AT. __________________ 2011 Mustang 5.0 \| 3.55's \| Lethal Performance off road H-Pipe \| Magnaflow Muffler Delete \| JLT CAI/Bama tuned 417whp/ 404 ft/lbs

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Z eliminator A True Z Fanatic Join Date: Jul 2009 Location: Ontario Canada Posts: 1,659 Drives: 370 Z 7AT Sports Rep Power: 19	400 to 410 rwhp 11.7 no problems. When i go the track with my fully moded N/A set up i now feel that it might go 11.5 to 11.6 or lower. Theres a lot more done to the car now. lighter, drag radials 305 35 18. horse power will be around 305 t0 307, 65 to 70 lbs lighter than before. the car was very light before and now i took more weight out of it Rims tires, braile battery driver lost 10 lb and no washer fluid. time will tell 1st to go 13.20 @ 103 / 265 rwhp with a posted time slip. 1st to go 12.95 @ 110.92 / 292 rwhp with posted time slips 1st to go 12.8009 @ 110.32 / 292 rwhp with posted time slips There is another 370 7 AT that ran a 13.1 with a stock set up and he posted a time slip he ran after me, Congratulations to him. If you look at the magazines that post 1/4 mile times have never posted a time slip. __________________ 12.343 @114.14 . 4.5 stroker motor is now being built. Dec 1 2015. Last edited by Z eliminator; 03-06-2010 at 07:30 PM.

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