Preparation for the STILLEN supercharger

StillenZ · 03-03-2010, 09:50 PM

yes...release....nice job stillen... cant wait for that intro price!!

LiquidZ · 03-03-2010, 09:53 PM

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Originally Posted by Zsteve

just a guess but I thought I had heard one of these SCs were trying 8 psi. So 6 psi for carb legal, could 8 psi be carb legal too and would it just as safe on the car as 6?

GTM is running 8 PSI. Nobody outside of Stillen knows what PSI they are running.

If you are pushing for CARB legality, the kit will have a low boost level to keep emissions down, so I doubt adding boost will keep it CARB legal.

Togo · 03-03-2010, 09:57 PM

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Originally Posted by Kyle@STILLEN

You are correct sir! This dyno is with the show 20's before we made the switch to the factory non-sport 18's.

Thanks Kyle.

Zsteve · 03-03-2010, 10:11 PM

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Originally Posted by Kyle@STILLEN

You are correct sir! This dyno is with the show 20's before we made the switch to the factory non-sport 18's.

did you all do a dyno with the 18s, if so can you post it?

shabarivas · 03-03-2010, 10:32 PM

wow sickkk shop man... I will definitely pay you guys a visit with my Z to check out that room full of super chargers myself

RCZ · 03-03-2010, 11:02 PM

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Originally Posted by Zsteve

price? hmmm both kits very close in numbers but one has a little more TQ, price is going to be the factor I think.

You think so?

From what I can see and what I've read previously in this thread...

1) Add 5% for heavy wheels.
2) Add 7% for Automatic transmission
3) Probably running less PSI than race kit. (6ish most likely)
4) Less aggressive tune.
5) There are obviously restrictions in the exhaust system to keep it CARB legal.
6) Im not 100% on this, but I think that G had stock intakes for baseline.

Anyone care to do the math for the race kit on 8 pounds?

Buddy Revell · 03-03-2010, 11:13 PM

Can't use stock intakes. The blower is located where one of the stock boxes would be. The piping is located where the other box would be. The kit comes with its own intake setup. Nevertheless, good numbers. Thanks for the update, Josh.

LiquidZ · 03-03-2010, 11:14 PM

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Originally Posted by Buddy Revell

Can't use stock intakes. The blower is located where one of the stock boxes would be. The piping is located where the other box would be. The kit comes with its own intake setup.

He's referring to the baseline dyno of the G37.

RCZ · 03-03-2010, 11:15 PM

Right, thats a substract, sorry I wasnt clear. Fixing.

Buddy Revell · 03-03-2010, 11:17 PM

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Originally Posted by RCZ

Right, thats a substract, sorry I wasnt clear. Fixing.

No problem, bro.

Zsteve · 03-03-2010, 11:19 PM

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Originally Posted by RCZ

You think so?

From what I can see and what I've read previously in this thread...

1) Add 5% for heavy wheels.
2) Add 7% for Automatic transmission
3) Probably running less PSI than race kit. (6ish most likely)
4) Less aggressive tune.
5) There are obviously restrictions in the exhaust system to keep it CARB legal.
6) Im not 100% on this, but I think that G had stock intakes for baseline.

Anyone care to do the math for the race kit on 8 pounds?

8 psi would be considered race and not for carb legal? cant wait to see the final results from both kits and pricing. I still think pricing might be the deciding factor, atleast for me it could be.

LiquidZ · 03-03-2010, 11:21 PM

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Originally Posted by Zsteve

8 psi would be considered race and not for carb legal? cant wait to see the final results from both kits and pricing. I still think pricing might be the deciding factor, atleast for me it could be.

I wouldn't consider 8 PSI a race kit. I'm thinking 10 PSI.

RCZ · 03-03-2010, 11:33 PM

Guys dont get ahead here, I am only guessing on the PSI.

Nikon FM · 03-04-2010, 12:07 AM

Comparing the torque curves with the "other" system this one keeps increasing as the RPMs play above 5.5k, whereas the "other" torque curve starts to fall off at the higher RPMs.

MMC Racing · 03-04-2010, 12:16 AM

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Originally Posted by LiquidZ

If you are pushing for CARB legality, the kit will have a low boost level to keep emissions down, so I doubt adding boost will keep it CARB legal.

Really what matters is that little E.O. number that comes with CARB certification on a plate visible to the officer. On the Vortech kit for the 350z, it was on the supercharger. Does 99% of the inspectors/officers know what the correct pulley size is - nope.. Even if you get Mr 1%, you take the fix it ticket, put the stock pulley back on, and go pass..

So yes, for legal reasons we California owners care, but for practical use the CARB certified level of PSI doesn't really matter. People are much more likely to get busted for high flow cats or race pipes.

On top of all that, we are talking about mostly new purchased cars up to this point.. 5 years of no inspections anyway.

03-03-2010, 09:50 PM	#766 (permalink)
StillenZ Enthusiast Member Join Date: Oct 2009 Location: Indiana Posts: 283 Drives: 09 Nissan 370Z Red M Rep Power: 16	yes...release....nice job stillen... cant wait for that intro price!! __________________ Stillen Dual Exhaust / Stillen Gen 3 Intake / Stillen Headers / Eibach Pro-Kit / Euro Fog Lamp / 1000W JL Audio Amp / 2 - 12' JBL P1222's / Pioneer In-dash Nav

03-03-2010, 11:13 PM	#772 (permalink)
Buddy Revell Enthusiast Member Join Date: Mar 2009 Location: So Cal Posts: 303 Drives: 08 Infiniti G37 Rep Power: 16	Can't use stock intakes. The blower is located where one of the stock boxes would be. The piping is located where the other box would be. The kit comes with its own intake setup. Nevertheless, good numbers. Thanks for the update, Josh. __________________ '08 IP G37S/GTM Supercharger/20" DPE SP-5 Wheels/ARK GRIP Exhaust

03-04-2010, 12:07 AM	#779 (permalink)
Nikon FM Track Member Join Date: Jan 2009 Location: Snoqualmie WA Posts: 973 Drives: 03 996TT Porsche Rep Power: 606	Comparing the torque curves with the "other" system this one keeps increasing as the RPMs play above 5.5k, whereas the "other" torque curve starts to fall off at the higher RPMs. __________________ Buddy Revell: "One man's sooner is another man's later"

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