Preparation for the STILLEN supercharger

Kyle@STILLEN · 01-08-2010, 12:54 PM

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Originally Posted by IvoryG

Wow. Looks really nice. I am very excited to see this kit hit the market. Manifold would look sick if you guys machine the lines and the stillen part to make it jump more from the casting.

That is definitely the plan! Check out the first two pictures of the 3D drawing. The intake manifolds will actually be sent out for black powdercoating prior to the machining process where all of the mounting surfaces and the STILLEN logo will be machined revealing the clean aluminum underneath. It will look great!

Zsteve · 01-08-2010, 01:03 PM

Not sure if this has been asked, but with the SCs will we need an oil cooler and for the AT guys an trans cooler? If so will they be part of the kit?

Kyle@STILLEN · 01-08-2010, 01:07 PM

It really just depends on what you'll be doing with the car. Because of the overheating oil issues we have already seen, we're going to guess that yes, an oil cooler will be necessary. The good thing though is that the intercooler will not block the oil cooler's that we currently offer so you will have fresh cool air passing through both the intercooler and the oil cooler. If you're racing the car I would definitely recommend the track kit.

We will not be supplying an oil cooler in the kit because not everyone will need it. It will really depend on what is being done with the car.
I don't know yet about the affects on the auto trans. One of our test cars is a G37 coupe automatic trans so we will know soon!

Snakes709 · 01-08-2010, 01:47 PM

Ok kinda off topic but kyle u might know the answer. I know there is a difference between the canadian version of the Z's and the US version, ie...fog light. Is there a difference in this cooling issue everyone keeps bringing up? I made 5+ passes down the 1/4 mile and never seen temps above 100*C and it was 30*C weather.

Kyle@STILLEN · 01-08-2010, 02:28 PM

you just threw out celsius numbers...Let me recalculate to fahrenheit...friggin' Canucks! LOL

100* temps= 212
30* temps=86

OK, so when visiting the 1/4 mile on an 86 F degree day you are seeing temperatures in the 212 F range.

I can't say exactly what is different but a 13 second pass down a 1/4 mile is not giving the engine much time to heat up the oil in comparison to a 30 minute session around a race track where you are constantly unloading and loading the engine and putting significant stress on the oiling system. I'm not saying that a blast down the drag strip is easy on the oiling system, but in comparison the race track is going to be harder on the oil for a longer period of time. It is my understanding that the majority of the cars overheating the oil are experiencing this issue on the race track.

Kyle@STILLEN · 01-08-2010, 05:48 PM

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Originally Posted by travisjb

glad you brought this up... for the occasional casual track day, I sure would like to be able to run 91... any way you guys could include a switch? even if this was introduced as an upgrade at a later date, it'd be appreciated

also, any more details you can share about the race-oriented version? you are assuming full a/c delete right ? anything else we should know about how it will be configured and what kind of differences we can expect from the other versions in terms of power gains, lag or whatever ?

thanks

Actually we have talked about the possibility of having a dual map setup on the tune with the ability to swap out pulleys for more boost and higher octane tune for track use and a streetable tune for 91 octane. The only problem with that will be to work out the tuning. The easiest way to do a system along those lines would be a piggyback tuner with 6 additional injectors. So yes, it is an option that we have discussed but it's not something that I have any final details on just yet.

No matter what, there will be no A/C delete or anything like that. The system will be designed to work with all of your factory systems.

I don't know about power gains or lag until we get the car up on the dyno and start testing.

travisjb · 01-08-2010, 07:04 PM

makes sense... anxiously awaiting further detail

casting looks superb btw!

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Originally Posted by Kyle@STILLEN

There are discussions as to how aggressive the race kit should be.

Some people are saying that the race kit should be a 100 octane only tune and be really aggressive. Other people are saying that not everyone is going to want to run 100 octane all the time. We are still discussing the possibilities.

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Originally Posted by Kyle@STILLEN

Actually we have talked about the possibility of having a dual map setup on the tune with the ability to swap out pulleys for more boost and higher octane tune for track use and a streetable tune for 91 octane. The only problem with that will be to work out the tuning. The easiest way to do a system along those lines would be a piggyback tuner with 6 additional injectors. So yes, it is an option that we have discussed but it's not something that I have any final details on just yet.

No matter what, there will be no A/C delete or anything like that. The system will be designed to work with all of your factory systems.

I don't know about power gains or lag until we get the car up on the dyno and start testing.

StillenZ · 01-08-2010, 09:07 PM

Wow Kyle I'm impressed. Thanks for the pics and thanks for the answers to my ?'s....

My car blew up today... I wish I would have bought all of the items that you suggested... I couldn't freakin stop to hop out the big ball of fire that was my car because I didn't get the darn brake upgrade and fluid upgrade... Damn, wouldn't that bl0ww..

Anyway, I think I am going to wait for the S/C release then just buy all of your suggestions then... Thanks again... I love the pics by the way...

How soon before we can see some NUMBERS?!?!?!?!

WShade · 01-08-2010, 09:18 PM

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Originally Posted by StillenZ

My car blew up today...

travisjb · 01-08-2010, 10:12 PM

wow, you are the man for keeping a positive attitude !

I say he deserves to see some numbers!

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Originally Posted by StillenZ

Wow Kyle I'm impressed. Thanks for the pics and thanks for the answers to my ?'s....

My car blew up today... I wish I would have bought all of the items that you suggested... I couldn't freakin stop to hop out the big ball of fire that was my car because I didn't get the darn brake upgrade and fluid upgrade... Damn, wouldn't that bl0ww..

Anyway, I think I am going to wait for the S/C release then just buy all of your suggestions then... Thanks again... I love the pics by the way...

How soon before we can see some NUMBERS?!?!?!?!

G37Sam · 01-08-2010, 11:53 PM

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Originally Posted by StillenZ

My car blew up today...

Like this?

travisjb · 01-09-2010, 12:02 AM

$350 from saferacer FYI

1slow370 · 01-09-2010, 03:22 AM

HAHA halon great stuff if you want to die from asphyxiation. Just remember to put one nozzle in the passenger compartment pointed at your face. That is race only fer sure.

Minicobra1 · 01-10-2010, 04:57 AM

Intake looks great

it will be an interesting piece with both pipes routed to the one side, cant wait for pics

2fast4thelaw · 01-10-2010, 11:22 AM

Where is the supercharger going to mount?

I am very interested to see how all the piping is ran and what it all looks like under the hood.

01-08-2010, 01:03 PM	#107 (permalink)
Zsteve A True Z Fanatic Join Date: Sep 2009 Location: TX Posts: 3,298 Drives: the 2 balled club Rep Power: 22	Not sure if this has been asked, but with the SCs will we need an oil cooler and for the AT guys an trans cooler? If so will they be part of the kit? __________________ 2010 LS3 C6 Silver coupe corvette

01-08-2010, 01:47 PM	#109 (permalink)
Snakes709 A True Z Fanatic Join Date: Aug 2009 Location: Edmonton Posts: 1,205 Drives: 2011 Evo-X GSR Rep Power: 18	Ok kinda off topic but kyle u might know the answer. I know there is a difference between the canadian version of the Z's and the US version, ie...fog light. Is there a difference in this cooling issue everyone keeps bringing up? I made 5+ passes down the 1/4 mile and never seen temps above 100C and it was 30C weather. __________________ 2011 Evo-GSR AMS 2.4 stroker/ bore, FP Black build in progress. Sponsor: DSG Performance

01-08-2010, 09:07 PM	#113 (permalink)
StillenZ Enthusiast Member Join Date: Oct 2009 Location: Indiana Posts: 283 Drives: 09 Nissan 370Z Red M Rep Power: 16	Wow Kyle I'm impressed. Thanks for the pics and thanks for the answers to my ?'s.... My car blew up today... I wish I would have bought all of the items that you suggested... I couldn't freakin stop to hop out the big ball of fire that was my car because I didn't get the darn brake upgrade and fluid upgrade... Damn, wouldn't that bl0ww.. Anyway, I think I am going to wait for the S/C release then just buy all of your suggestions then... Thanks again... I love the pics by the way... How soon before we can see some NUMBERS?!?!?!?! __________________ Stillen Dual Exhaust / Stillen Gen 3 Intake / Stillen Headers / Eibach Pro-Kit / Euro Fog Lamp / 1000W JL Audio Amp / 2 - 12' JBL P1222's / Pioneer In-dash Nav

01-09-2010, 12:02 AM	#117 (permalink)
travisjb A True Z Fanatic Join Date: Jan 2009 Location: GSO Posts: 2,803 Drives: VIR Rep Power: 188	$350 from saferacer FYI __________________ 2009 370Z #104 For Sale

01-10-2010, 04:57 AM	#119 (permalink)
Minicobra1 A True Z Fanatic Join Date: Nov 2008 Location: Orange County, CA. Posts: 1,205 Drives: 370Z Tour, Spt, 6mt Rep Power: 644	Intake looks great it will be an interesting piece with both pipes routed to the one side, cant wait for pics __________________ 370z Tour\| Spt Pack\|Navi\|BERK CBE\|Berk HFC's\| Eibach Springs\| Hotchkis Sway Bars\|SPC Camber Arms\|15mm Ichiba Wheel Spacers\| 19"Factory Nismo Wheels-Matt Black\|Stop Tech Rotors\|TWM Shifter\|3M Tint\|Black Fangs\|Black Rear Valance\|JDM Fog Light\| MY BAND-www.myspace.com/petroleum

01-08-2010, 01:07 PM	#108 (permalink)
Kyle@STILLEN The370Z.com Sponsor Join Date: Dec 2008 Location: Newport Beach Posts: 626 Drives: Toyota Tundra Rep Power: 306	It really just depends on what you'll be doing with the car. Because of the overheating oil issues we have already seen, we're going to guess that yes, an oil cooler will be necessary. The good thing though is that the intercooler will not block the oil cooler's that we currently offer so you will have fresh cool air passing through both the intercooler and the oil cooler. If you're racing the car I would definitely recommend the track kit. We will not be supplying an oil cooler in the kit because not everyone will need it. It will really depend on what is being done with the car. I don't know yet about the affects on the auto trans. One of our test cars is a G37 coupe automatic trans so we will know soon!

01-08-2010, 02:28 PM	#110 (permalink)
Kyle@STILLEN The370Z.com Sponsor Join Date: Dec 2008 Location: Newport Beach Posts: 626 Drives: Toyota Tundra Rep Power: 306	you just threw out celsius numbers...Let me recalculate to fahrenheit...friggin' Canucks! LOL 100* temps= 212 30* temps=86 OK, so when visiting the 1/4 mile on an 86 F degree day you are seeing temperatures in the 212 F range. I can't say exactly what is different but a 13 second pass down a 1/4 mile is not giving the engine much time to heat up the oil in comparison to a 30 minute session around a race track where you are constantly unloading and loading the engine and putting significant stress on the oiling system. I'm not saying that a blast down the drag strip is easy on the oiling system, but in comparison the race track is going to be harder on the oil for a longer period of time. It is my understanding that the majority of the cars overheating the oil are experiencing this issue on the race track.

01-09-2010, 03:22 AM	#118 (permalink)
1slow370 A True Z Fanatic Join Date: Aug 2009 Location: In the D Posts: 3,732 Drives: v8 74 260z ;) Rep Power: 7251	HAHA halon great stuff if you want to die from asphyxiation. Just remember to put one nozzle in the passenger compartment pointed at your face. That is race only fer sure.

01-10-2010, 11:22 AM	#120 (permalink)
2fast4thelaw Enthusiast Member Join Date: Feb 2009 Location: Denver Co Age: 50 Posts: 403 Drives: 09 370Z Sport/MT6 Rep Power: 16	Where is the supercharger going to mount? I am very interested to see how all the piping is ran and what it all looks like under the hood. __________________ To the optimist, the glass is half full. To the pessimist, the glass is half empty. To the engineer, the glass is twice as big as it needs to be.

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