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StillenZ 03-03-2010 08:50 PM

yes...release....nice job stillen... cant wait for that intro price!!

LiquidZ 03-03-2010 08:53 PM

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Originally Posted by Zsteve (Post 428021)
just a guess but I thought I had heard one of these SCs were trying 8 psi. So 6 psi for carb legal, could 8 psi be carb legal too and would it just as safe on the car as 6?

GTM is running 8 PSI. Nobody outside of Stillen knows what PSI they are running.

If you are pushing for CARB legality, the kit will have a low boost level to keep emissions down, so I doubt adding boost will keep it CARB legal.

Togo 03-03-2010 08:57 PM

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Originally Posted by Kyle@STILLEN (Post 427955)
You are correct sir! This dyno is with the show 20's before we made the switch to the factory non-sport 18's.

Thanks Kyle.:tup:

Zsteve 03-03-2010 09:11 PM

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Originally Posted by Kyle@STILLEN (Post 427955)
You are correct sir! This dyno is with the show 20's before we made the switch to the factory non-sport 18's.

did you all do a dyno with the 18s, if so can you post it?

shabarivas 03-03-2010 09:32 PM

wow sickkk shop man... I will definitely pay you guys a visit with my Z to check out that room full of super chargers myself :)

RCZ 03-03-2010 10:02 PM

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Originally Posted by Zsteve (Post 427924)
price? hmmm both kits very close in numbers but one has a little more TQ, price is going to be the factor I think.

You think so?

From what I can see and what I've read previously in this thread...

1) Add 5% for heavy wheels.
2) Add 7% for Automatic transmission
3) Probably running less PSI than race kit. (6ish most likely)
4) Less aggressive tune.
5) There are obviously restrictions in the exhaust system to keep it CARB legal.
6) Im not 100% on this, but I think that G had stock intakes for baseline.

Anyone care to do the math for the race kit on 8 pounds?

Buddy Revell 03-03-2010 10:13 PM

Can't use stock intakes. The blower is located where one of the stock boxes would be. The piping is located where the other box would be. The kit comes with its own intake setup. Nevertheless, good numbers. Thanks for the update, Josh.

LiquidZ 03-03-2010 10:14 PM

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Originally Posted by Buddy Revell (Post 428122)
Can't use stock intakes. The blower is located where one of the stock boxes would be. The piping is located where the other box would be. The kit comes with its own intake setup.

He's referring to the baseline dyno of the G37.

RCZ 03-03-2010 10:15 PM

Right, thats a substract, sorry I wasnt clear. Fixing.

Buddy Revell 03-03-2010 10:17 PM

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Originally Posted by RCZ (Post 428126)
Right, thats a substract, sorry I wasnt clear. Fixing.

No problem, bro.

Zsteve 03-03-2010 10:19 PM

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Originally Posted by RCZ (Post 428116)
You think so?

From what I can see and what I've read previously in this thread...

1) Add 5% for heavy wheels.
2) Add 7% for Automatic transmission
3) Probably running less PSI than race kit. (6ish most likely)
4) Less aggressive tune.
5) There are obviously restrictions in the exhaust system to keep it CARB legal.
6) Im not 100% on this, but I think that G had stock intakes for baseline.

Anyone care to do the math for the race kit on 8 pounds?

8 psi would be considered race and not for carb legal? cant wait to see the final results from both kits and pricing. I still think pricing might be the deciding factor, atleast for me it could be.

LiquidZ 03-03-2010 10:21 PM

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Originally Posted by Zsteve (Post 428131)
8 psi would be considered race and not for carb legal? cant wait to see the final results from both kits and pricing. I still think pricing might be the deciding factor, atleast for me it could be.

I wouldn't consider 8 PSI a race kit. I'm thinking 10 PSI.

RCZ 03-03-2010 10:33 PM

Guys dont get ahead here, I am only guessing on the PSI.

Nikon FM 03-03-2010 11:07 PM

Comparing the torque curves with the "other" system this one keeps increasing as the RPMs play above 5.5k, whereas the "other" torque curve starts to fall off at the higher RPMs.

MMC Racing 03-03-2010 11:16 PM

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Originally Posted by LiquidZ (Post 428025)
If you are pushing for CARB legality, the kit will have a low boost level to keep emissions down, so I doubt adding boost will keep it CARB legal.

Really what matters is that little E.O. number that comes with CARB certification on a plate visible to the officer. On the Vortech kit for the 350z, it was on the supercharger. Does 99% of the inspectors/officers know what the correct pulley size is - nope.. Even if you get Mr 1%, you take the fix it ticket, put the stock pulley back on, and go pass..

So yes, for legal reasons we California owners care, but for practical use the CARB certified level of PSI doesn't really matter. People are much more likely to get busted for high flow cats or race pipes.

On top of all that, we are talking about mostly new purchased cars up to this point.. 5 years of no inspections anyway.


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