Comp turbo failure less than a mile

sx moneypit · 08-08-2017, 09:02 AM

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Originally Posted by knuckles899

Yeah, Im going to remove both. I think I might try to figure out a way to slightly pressurize the intercooler and run water through it or some type of liquid to try to rid it of any debris lodged in there....I just feel that blowing air through it only could possibly leave stuff behind............Thoughts on this?

Then just flush the motor 3 or 4 times with a very light viscosity oil or the marvel mystery oil stuff just to try to get rid of anything that might be in the engine.

Thank you for the support.

I would use air conditioner flush to clean the intercooler.

Chuck33079 · 08-08-2017, 09:10 AM

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Originally Posted by jwick

The Precision turbos perform equally or better than the Comp. The benefit of the Comp is not requiring the oil system. I was never a fan of an oil-less turbo. That's a lot of heat to deal with to not have proper cooling.

I've never really felt ok with an oil-less turbo. So, you add grease every few thousand miles, but you never open it up and clean out the old grease - how does it not turn into a sticky gummy mess after 30k miles?

sx moneypit · 08-08-2017, 09:12 AM

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Originally Posted by Chuck33079

I've never really felt ok with an oil-less turbo. So, you add grease every few thousand miles, but you never open it up and clean out the old grease - how does it not turn into a sticky gummy mess after 30k miles?

SouthArk370Z · 08-08-2017, 10:02 AM

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Originally Posted by Chuck33079

I've never really felt ok with an oil-less turbo. So, you add grease every few thousand miles, but you never open it up and clean out the old grease - how does it not turn into a sticky gummy mess after 30k miles?

For the industrial bearings I've worked with, the new grease pushes the old grease out the sides of the bearing (or some type of vent). In the case of a turbo, I would assume most of the grease will ooze out on the exhaust side and be sent out the tailpipe.

Based on my experience with high-temp bearings, I would give the bearing a shot or two of grease* much more often than 3000 miles. Maybe once a week for a DD.

YMMV. All my experience is with industrial equipment and not turbos.

* Just how much would depend on type of bearing, size, etc.

09nismo498 · 08-08-2017, 10:35 AM

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Originally Posted by Streetz

My friend Ryan has a BP kit on his car as well. The comp turbo lasted 10min before it had a internal coolant leak and was dumping coolant into his exhaust.

Yea that's me. Fully built block with Comp bp kit. When everything was done, started the car, everything was good for about 10 min, then I noticed a slow drip of coolant from the exhaust. Started checking everything I could, made sure to verify it wasn't coming from the engine since I just built it. After removing the turbo and removing the housings, I found the turbo housing soaked with coolant. Turbo manifold was dry, indicating turbo seal coolant leak. Sent back to comp, they replaced the entire center section, and had it back within a few days. Comp was actually a pleasure to deal with, and they corrected the problem quickly, and correctly free of charge with free return shipping.

Since this failure, I have put about 1000 miles on the car with absolutely no problems. These turbos are fairly new, maybe its a quality control issue, maybe its a poor design, I am not sure. But I can tell you, they will warranty it for you, and everything is running perfectly since being replaced. I will be greasing mine every 2000 miles or so, personally think that is the longest that should be gone.

Call Comp directly and get it handled. The guy I dealt with was Joe.

knuckles899 · 08-08-2017, 11:05 AM

Just to clarify for all the community here, Sasha has been great and I do not have any issues with him or his product....just the turbo from Comp.

andre81k · 08-08-2017, 11:27 AM

I had the same coolant seal issue, was pushing out coolant smoke out exhaust. Sent to them and they fixed it and sent back. Have about 3k miles on her now running good.

09nismo498 · 08-08-2017, 11:31 AM

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Originally Posted by andre81k

I had the same coolant seal issue, was pushing out coolant smoke out exhaust. Sent to them and they fixed it and sent back. Have about 3k miles on her now running good.

That's interesting, same issue as me. Sounds like a quality control problem more than a design flaw.

Jayhovah · 08-08-2017, 11:33 AM

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Originally Posted by 09nismo498

That's interesting, same issue as me. Sounds like a quality control problem more than a design flaw.

Altogether much less concerning than the OP's issue which could result in metallic dust finding its way into the combustion chamber...

That being said, I've seen a few turbos go south like this in my time as a car enthusiast and none of the motors seemed any worse for wear.

09nismo498 · 08-08-2017, 11:43 AM

Yea, metal particles are concerning. I would inspect inside the intake manifold, and all intake piping/intercooler for debris. clean everything thoroughly, change oil and filter, drive a couple hundred miles, then change oil and filter again. You should be fine.

Rusty · 08-08-2017, 08:11 PM

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Originally Posted by SouthArk370Z

For the industrial bearings I've worked with, the new grease pushes the old grease out the sides of the bearing (or some type of vent). In the case of a turbo, I would assume most of the grease will ooze out on the exhaust side and be sent out the tailpipe.

Based on my experience with high-temp bearings, I would give the bearing a shot or two of grease* much more often than 3000 miles. Maybe once a week for a DD.

YMMV. All my experience is with industrial equipment and not turbos.

* Just how much would depend on type of bearing, size, etc.

In most bearing set-ups that I have dealt with. There is a hole that has a pipe plug in it that has to be removed when greasing the bearing. The hole is 180deg from the zerk fitting. This hole is where the old grease is suppose to come out of. If the old grease is hard. You have to use something to poke a hole in the hard grease to get it to flow out of the hole. An auto-greaser might work. We was trying these when I retired.

James10694 · 08-09-2017, 03:21 AM

Ya the coolant leak isn't very damaging compared to the metal shavings going into your engine. But seriously it's like I'm expecting my turbo to fail when I put it in. There's been what 9 new VHR comp turbo kits and maybe 10 HR kits. Out of 19 comp turbos not one not two but THREE turbo failures. That's just insane.

I'm sorry I love BP and Sasha's customer service but I think we should have stuck with the precision turbo.

Senna-F1 · 08-09-2017, 03:49 AM

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Originally Posted by James10694

Ya the coolant leak isn't very damaging compared to the metal shavings going into your engine. But seriously it's like I'm expecting my turbo to fail when I put it in. There's been what 9 new VHR comp turbo kits and maybe 10 HR kits. Out of 19 comp turbos not one not two but THREE turbo failures. That's just insane.

I'm sorry I love BP and Sasha's customer service but I think we should have stuck with the precision turbo.

It's probably worse than that. We don't know whats going on with the other kits. As far as Comp kits go, 100% of the ones we've heard about have had issues. One wasn't the turbo itself, but then again, maybe it was. The filter melted and split. Too much heat? Imagine running w/o a filter and not knowing it.

solidus · 08-09-2017, 08:49 AM

People still have the option of going with the Precision turbos from Sasha. As far as the filters in my own experience relocation would be optimal but we know that is'nt an option. So you're left with heat mitigation or fabricating a shield. I'm on my third filter now; The first was completely my own ignorance as a result of removing the turbo and reinstalling it to many times and flattening the gasket. The second filter bubbled around the snout and eventually cracked open at the base. I sent pics to Buschur Racing and they said they don't know and had never seen it happen. I've gold wrapped the base of the third filter and we'll see the results when I snatch it off.

knuckles899 · 08-09-2017, 09:51 AM

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Originally Posted by sx moneypit

I would use air conditioner flush to clean the intercooler.

I was thinking about taking the intercooler to a semi repair shop, figured they would have some type of cleaning tank for the big intercoolers for the semi's.

08-08-2017, 11:05 AM	#51 (permalink)
knuckles899 Base Member Join Date: Dec 2016 Location: NoR CaL Posts: 54 Drives: 08 350z Hr Rep Power: 9	Just to clarify for all the community here, Sasha has been great and I do not have any issues with him or his product....just the turbo from Comp. GaleForce, James10694 and EliteXpress like this.

08-08-2017, 11:27 AM	#52 (permalink)
andre81k Base Member Join Date: Oct 2013 Location: West Palm Beach Posts: 21 Drives: 08 350z CS MT Rep Power: 12	I had the same coolant seal issue, was pushing out coolant smoke out exhaust. Sent to them and they fixed it and sent back. Have about 3k miles on her now running good. 370Zsteve likes this.

08-08-2017, 11:43 AM	#55 (permalink)
09nismo498 Base Member Join Date: Sep 2010 Location: Chicago burbs Posts: 207 Drives: 14 GTR Rep Power: 16	Yea, metal particles are concerning. I would inspect inside the intake manifold, and all intake piping/intercooler for debris. clean everything thoroughly, change oil and filter, drive a couple hundred miles, then change oil and filter again. You should be fine. wideglideleon likes this. __________________ 2013 370z Nismo Turbo 2017 Lexus IS200T F Sport (DD)

08-09-2017, 03:21 AM	#57 (permalink)
James10694 Track Member Join Date: Oct 2013 Location: Las Vegas NV Posts: 917 Drives: 2010 370z Nismo Rep Power: 13	Ya the coolant leak isn't very damaging compared to the metal shavings going into your engine. But seriously it's like I'm expecting my turbo to fail when I put it in. There's been what 9 new VHR comp turbo kits and maybe 10 HR kits. Out of 19 comp turbos not one not two but THREE turbo failures. That's just insane. I'm sorry I love BP and Sasha's customer service but I think we should have stuck with the precision turbo. 370Zsteve likes this. __________________ Boosted Performance Single Turbo 618whp/489 tq

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solidus Track Member Join Date: Oct 2014 Location: Orlando, Florida Posts: 694 Drives: 15' Nismo Black 6MT Rep Power: 10081	People still have the option of going with the Precision turbos from Sasha. As far as the filters in my own experience relocation would be optimal but we know that is'nt an option. So you're left with heat mitigation or fabricating a shield. I'm on my third filter now; The first was completely my own ignorance as a result of removing the turbo and reinstalling it to many times and flattening the gasket. The second filter bubbled around the snout and eventually cracked open at the base. I sent pics to Buschur Racing and they said they don't know and had never seen it happen. I've gold wrapped the base of the third filter and we'll see the results when I snatch it off.