Billet Engine Block

phunk · 03-21-2017, 04:12 PM

I am seeking a few guys interested in a billet aluminum VQ35HR/VQ37VHR engine block. Water cooled with iron wet sleeves, enlarged head stud threads, and a couple other interesting design features that we would dial-in if we get that far. *Not* as an in-house / CJM product, I am merely making the push for it. I have 2 options for interested manufacturers of billet blocks, both with lots of experience and reputation.

We need 5+ guys on an initial order to get anywhere with it.

Cost: Brace for impact to the scale of $10,000 - $14,000 (pending some design features) for a *BARE BLOCK*. I will push for sub 10k, but we cannot have anyone who is holding their breath for that, its unlikely we will achieve that goal.

This is, of course, intended for top level drag racing, roll racing, and dyno queen projects. If this is something that excites you enough to empty your children's college fund, please shoot me a PM or email so I can get you on the list and see if we can make it happen.

Thanks

Rid3_FaM0uS · 03-24-2017, 01:28 PM

Does anyone know if selling kidneys for 30 grand is still a thing!?

phunk · 03-24-2017, 01:43 PM

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Originally Posted by Rid3_FaM0uS

Does anyone know if selling kidneys for 30 grand is still a thing!?

Its not all that expensive if you think about it! Not in the grand scheme of building a 1000+ HP engine... the extra 10g to bump the build into the highest tier of RWD street car powerhouses, is well worth it.

The only other option, is to use a modified stock block, and rebuild your engine 2-4 times as often! I think that a lot of people who question the expense of a block like this, are unaware of how many engines the top tier cars go through to get their results. Its rarely disclosed to the public.

If someone plans to use a 1000+ HP VQ on a regular basis, and run it for all its got, its an easy decision. Ive got several guys discussing it with me, but only 3 all-in at this point. I will expect it to take some time to line up the buyers since its a sudden and drastic proposal. And really, its like a change of lifestyle for many, since building to this level would appropriate the time and dedication to campaigning such a car at national level events.

Rid3_FaM0uS · 03-24-2017, 03:32 PM

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Originally Posted by phunk

Its not all that expensive if you think about it! Not in the grand scheme of building a 1000+ HP engine... the extra 10g to bump the build into the highest tier of RWD street car powerhouses, is well worth it.

The only other option, is to use a modified stock block, and rebuild your engine 2-4 times as often! I think that a lot of people who question the expense of a block like this, are unaware of how many engines the top tier cars go through to get their results. Its rarely disclosed to the public.

If someone plans to use a 1000+ HP VQ on a regular basis, and run it for all its got, its an easy decision. Ive got several guys discussing it with me, but only 3 all-in at this point. I will expect it to take some time to line up the buyers since its a sudden and drastic proposal. And really, its like a change of lifestyle for many, since building to this level would appropriate the time and dedication to campaigning such a car at national level events.

this exactly Charles. This is usually the realm people with very deep pockets and/or some way of writing the work off delve into. Will you find 5 people? certainly. But I find it awfully hard to justify an EASILY $15-20,000 decked out short block(IE stroker billet oil pump dry sump)+Heads(port/polished +1mm Ti valves springs retainers etc, exhaust cams) then to throw upwards of 6 grand on an boost logic GTR intake setup/lower conversion with larger TBs. You realize why I asked about the whole $30,000 dollar exchange for a kidney now right?

I'm by no means at all knocking what you're trying to make happen here. by all means bring it to the market. If I never decide to sell this car for a Gallardo ill buy one when the time comes; But hell, weve yet to see someone take the suspension in one of these cars into the 9s let alone to start talking about motors capable of 7s.

TerribleONE · 03-24-2017, 03:41 PM

Baller.... Wish I could justify it. Subd for updates

phunk · 03-24-2017, 03:48 PM

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Originally Posted by Rid3_FaM0uS

this exactly Charles. This is usually the realm people with very deep pockets and/or some way of writing the work off delve into. Will you find 5 people? certainly. But I find it awfully hard to justify an EASILY $15-20,000 decked out short block(IE stroker billet oil pump dry sump)+Heads(port/polished +1mm Ti valves springs retainers etc, exhaust cams) then to throw upwards of 6 grand on an boost logic GTR intake setup/lower conversion with larger TBs. You realize why I asked about the whole $30,000 dollar exchange for a kidney now right?

I'm by no means at all knocking what you're trying to make happen here. by all means bring it to the market. If I never decide to sell this car for a Gallardo ill buy one when the time comes; But hell, weve yet to see someone take the suspension in one of these cars into the 9s let alone to start talking about motors capable of 7s.

Well yes of course there are countless other factors to such a build. However, there are already many people purchasing billet cranks, dry sumps, and the rest. So you really can just consider the cost of the block itself as a separate expense, rather than having to include the inevitable extras that any high power builds would already include!

As for the suspension and single digits... that is because all the Z builds are full street builds. Run a 28 on a 15" and 18psi, stock ride height and softer suspension, and suddenly that IRS isnt going to be such an issue getting into the 9s.

The only reason you havent seen anyone run a 9, is because nobody has tried to run a 9. All that we have had, are guys taking their typical full street car builds to the track with some semi-sticky tires just to see what happens.

phunk · 03-24-2017, 03:57 PM

I know that on this forum in particular, it is unlikely I will find potential buyers for the block. Its just that I might as well post it here just in case someone finds it on a random glance.

People who build such race cars are not used to thinking of the 370z as a realistically rewarding platform because there has been a few critical missing links. Anyone remaining in this community is here because those limitations are of no concern for their personal use and goals of the car.

I personally believe that the market for a billet 370z block is entirely outside of the 370z community! It would be a person who is interested in building something that isnt just another Vette, Viper, Supra, for the RWD classes.

So I was actually expecting a ton more criticism with my post here.

TerribleONE · 03-24-2017, 04:32 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by phunk

I know that on this forum in particular, it is unlikely I will find potential buyers for the block. Its just that I might as well post it here just in case someone finds it on a random glance.

People who build such race cars are not used to thinking of the 370z as a realistically rewarding platform because there has been a few critical missing links. Anyone remaining in this community is here because those limitations are of no concern for their personal use and goals of the car.

I personally believe that the market for a billet 370z block is entirely outside of the 370z community! It would be a person who is interested in building something that isnt just another Vette, Viper, Supra, for the RWD classes.

So I was actually expecting a ton more criticism with my post here.

Definitely no criticism needed here. I hope someone does it as I would love to follow the build and see the results.

Rid3_FaM0uS · 03-24-2017, 05:14 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by phunk

I know that on this forum in particular, it is unlikely I will find potential buyers for the block. Its just that I might as well post it here just in case someone finds it on a random glance.

People who build such race cars are not used to thinking of the 370z as a realistically rewarding platform because there has been a few critical missing links. Anyone remaining in this community is here because those limitations are of no concern for their personal use and goals of the car.

I personally believe that the market for a billet 370z block is entirely outside of the 370z community! It would be a person who is interested in building something that isnt just another Vette, Viper, Supra, for the RWD classes.

So I was actually expecting a ton more criticism with my post here.

I'm totally with you buddy. DARE TO BE DIFFERENT! If I wanted proven results I would be wheeling one of the platforms above! no hate what so ever. more less just picking your brain to find what your plans are with such a project that is merely all! FYI I have some pretty game breaking news I NEED to share with you about what we spoke on a couple months ago. ill message you as soon as I'm done commuting to Toledo my dude!

Kris9884 · 03-24-2017, 06:48 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by phunk

I know that on this forum in particular, it is unlikely I will find potential buyers for the block. Its just that I might as well post it here just in case someone finds it on a random glance.

People who build such race cars are not used to thinking of the 370z as a realistically rewarding platform because there has been a few critical missing links. Anyone remaining in this community is here because those limitations are of no concern for their personal use and goals of the car.

I personally believe that the market for a billet 370z block is entirely outside of the 370z community! It would be a person who is interested in building something that isnt just another Vette, Viper, Supra, for the RWD classes.

So I was actually expecting a ton more criticism with my post here.

I agree with this. Anyone can swap in a built 2J and call it a day at 1000hp but that's old news. This is just a really rad way of being different. I'd love to see this happen but I couldn't justify something like that, hell, my cars not even paid off yet lol.

Rusty · 03-25-2017, 10:56 PM

I need to hit the lottery.

ChaseZ · 03-25-2017, 11:34 PM

I'd be fully on board Charles....

next year

RJ MFG · 03-26-2017, 04:53 PM

We were planning on doing this later this year after the supercharger kit. Charles if you would like to team up on this we can bring it into reality. Also with the new HAAS machine we picked up we should be able to get this done pretty cost effectively.

Give us a shout.

Elmo370z · 03-27-2017, 11:21 PM

Can't wait to see this come to life. I also need to hit the lotto

Elmo370z · 10-08-2021, 06:36 PM

Mmmmm

03-21-2017, 04:12 PM	#1 (permalink)
phunk A True Z Fanatic Join Date: Mar 2009 Location: Chicago Posts: 3,669 Drives: 370 Rep Power: 974724	Billet Engine Block I am seeking a few guys interested in a billet aluminum VQ35HR/VQ37VHR engine block. Water cooled with iron wet sleeves, enlarged head stud threads, and a couple other interesting design features that we would dial-in if we get that far. Not as an in-house / CJM product, I am merely making the push for it. I have 2 options for interested manufacturers of billet blocks, both with lots of experience and reputation. We need 5+ guys on an initial order to get anywhere with it. Cost: Brace for impact to the scale of $10,000 - $14,000 (pending some design features) for a BARE BLOCK. I will push for sub 10k, but we cannot have anyone who is holding their breath for that, its unlikely we will achieve that goal. This is, of course, intended for top level drag racing, roll racing, and dyno queen projects. If this is something that excites you enough to empty your children's college fund, please shoot me a PM or email so I can get you on the list and see if we can make it happen. Thanks TechnicZ, BOLIO 671, gbrettin and 7 others like this. __________________ Charles @ CJ Motorsports : Website \| Facebook \| Instagram \| YouTube Home of the 9 second, stock longblock, stock drivetrain 6MT 370z. 9.91 @ 142mph

03-24-2017, 01:28 PM	#2 (permalink)
Rid3_FaM0uS Track Member Join Date: Apr 2012 Location: Wapakoneta, Ohio Posts: 506 Drives: 2011 BS Nismo 370z Rep Power: 44	Does anyone know if selling kidneys for 30 grand is still a thing!? TerribleONE, jwick and GaleForce like this. __________________ Always under construction. . .

03-24-2017, 03:41 PM	#5 (permalink)
TerribleONE A True Z Fanatic Join Date: Jan 2009 Location: Socal Posts: 10,203 Drives: WOT Rep Power: 5851	Baller.... Wish I could justify it. Subd for updates __________________ 638WHP 541WTQ @ 13.5PSI Build thread

03-24-2017, 03:57 PM	#7 (permalink)
phunk A True Z Fanatic Join Date: Mar 2009 Location: Chicago Posts: 3,669 Drives: 370 Rep Power: 974724	I know that on this forum in particular, it is unlikely I will find potential buyers for the block. Its just that I might as well post it here just in case someone finds it on a random glance. People who build such race cars are not used to thinking of the 370z as a realistically rewarding platform because there has been a few critical missing links. Anyone remaining in this community is here because those limitations are of no concern for their personal use and goals of the car. I personally believe that the market for a billet 370z block is entirely outside of the 370z community! It would be a person who is interested in building something that isnt just another Vette, Viper, Supra, for the RWD classes. So I was actually expecting a ton more criticism with my post here. BOLIO 671, scratchdvinyl, Rid3_FaM0uS and 2 others like this. __________________ Charles @ CJ Motorsports : Website \| Facebook \| Instagram \| YouTube Home of the 9 second, stock longblock, stock drivetrain 6MT 370z. 9.91 @ 142mph

03-25-2017, 10:56 PM	#11 (permalink)
Rusty Ronin Samurai - Assassin Join Date: Dec 2011 Location: Fayettenam,Pennsyltucky Age: 69 Posts: 35,344 Drives: 2011 Nismo GM 6M Rep Power: 2684438	I need to hit the lottery. Hotrodz and Elmo370z like this. __________________ 浪人 - 殺し屋 "The Difficult Anytime, The Impossible By Appointment Only" http://www.the370z.com/members-370z-...o-journal.html

03-25-2017, 11:34 PM	#12 (permalink)
ChaseZ A True Z Fanatic Join Date: May 2016 Location: Calgary Posts: 3,799 Drives: 16 370z Rep Power: 94683	I'd be fully on board Charles.... next year

03-26-2017, 04:53 PM	#13 (permalink)
RJ MFG Enthusiast Member Join Date: May 2016 Location: Tampa, FL Posts: 253 Drives: 04 Nissan 350Z CS M6 Rep Power: 284	We were planning on doing this later this year after the supercharger kit. Charles if you would like to team up on this we can bring it into reality. Also with the new HAAS machine we picked up we should be able to get this done pretty cost effectively. Give us a shout. TechnicZ, gbrettin and Hotrodz like this. __________________ Contact us: https://www.facebook.com/rjmllc/?fref=nf

03-27-2017, 11:21 PM	#14 (permalink)
Elmo370z A True Z Fanatic Join Date: Apr 2013 Location: st. petersburg Posts: 5,724 Drives: 09 nissan 370z Sp M6 Rep Power: 295378	Can't wait to see this come to life. I also need to hit the lotto

10-08-2021, 06:36 PM	#15 (permalink)
Elmo370z A True Z Fanatic Join Date: Apr 2013 Location: st. petersburg Posts: 5,724 Drives: 09 nissan 370z Sp M6 Rep Power: 295378	Mmmmm Hotrodz and Optimiser like this.

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