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scope22 02-20-2017 02:52 PM

Do blow off valves need to be cleaned on S/C car?
 
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Chuck33079 02-20-2017 02:56 PM

Mine's not a SC, but I clean and lube the BOVs every time I have the bumper off to clean the air filters. Turbosmart makes a BOV specific lube.

Jinxx 02-20-2017 05:26 PM

I have a GTM supercharger and I have to clean mine about every 2-3 months or it starts sticking

scope22 02-20-2017 09:25 PM

How do you know if it's sticking? Fluttering?

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Originally Posted by Jinxx (Post 3618327)
I have a GTM supercharger and I have to clean mine about every 2-3 months or it starts sticking


Jinxx 02-21-2017 04:33 AM

Yes fluttering ....or in a extreme case it's stuck open or closed ...most of the time it's stuck closed

Kamillio 02-21-2017 07:40 AM

How do you clean a blow off valve? I have an S/C too and the BOV has been fluttering since new when part throttle at high RPMs.

TopgunZ 02-21-2017 07:43 AM

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Originally Posted by Kamillio (Post 3618522)
How do you clean a blow off valve? I have an S/C too and the BOV has been fluttering since new when part throttle at high RPMs.

Do you have the bosch or turbosmart bov? I dont have a record of sending the Tial out to you.

Kamillio 02-21-2017 07:46 AM

I have the bosch installed. The Turbosmart is on the shelf still.

TopgunZ 02-21-2017 07:55 AM

That is why you get flutter. The Air to Air kit's intake design allows it to breath better, causing more air to vent, with no way of recirculating it back into the intake to quiet it down. That little bosch valve cant keep up. Even if you could recirc it, it would still make a good amount of noise. The turbosmart with the stock spring will be even worse. You could buy the lightest spring (blue) and that will help or try trimming the current spring.

The only good way to get rid of it is to upgrade to a Tial QRJ.

Kamillio 02-21-2017 07:58 AM

Is flutter a bad thing? I don't really care about the noise. I don't know anything about BOVs and their proper performance

Jinxx 02-21-2017 09:02 AM

I have the turbosmart valve with the red spring... its adjusted just one turn passed the o-ring... when cleaned I don't get any flutter but after about a month I notice very light flutter beginning as it get dirty

Light flutter prolly won't hurt anything but if it's stuck closed then what you hear is back surge on the supercharger adding extra wear

TopgunZ 02-21-2017 09:20 AM

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Originally Posted by Jinxx (Post 3618556)
I have the turbosmart valve with the red spring... its adjusted just one turn passed the o-ring... when cleaned I don't get any flutter but after about a month I notice very light flutter beginning as it get dirty

Light flutter prolly won't hurt anything but if it's stuck closed then what you hear is back surge on the supercharger adding extra wear

Yeah but with the Air to Air kit it completely changes the airflow. So the red spring will make a terrible flutter. I had used every spring turbosmart offers and it sucked on my car. I ended up getting the lightest spring and had to trim off 2 rings and it still didnt sound right to me.

The flutter means the air is not coming out of the supercharger properly. The noise you hear is the piston in the bpv opening and closing. It is very hard on the valve since instead of it just closing on throttle then opening when off throttle once, it is doing that like a 1000 times more. You will eventually wear your valve out.

Also, the air needs to get out of the system or it tries to push itself back through the supercharger blades, basically trying to force it to slow down but it cant since it is belt driven so it causes unwanted stress on the bearings.

Kamillio 02-21-2017 10:37 AM

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Originally Posted by TopgunZ (Post 3618565)
Yeah but with the Air to Air kit it completely changes the airflow. So the red spring will make a terrible flutter. I had used every spring turbosmart offers and it sucked on my car. I ended up getting the lightest spring and had to trim off 2 rings and it still didnt sound right to me.

The flutter means the air is not coming out of the supercharger properly. The noise you hear is the piston in the bpv opening and closing. It is very hard on the valve since instead of it just closing on throttle then opening when off throttle once, it is doing that like a 1000 times more. You will eventually wear your valve out.

Also, the air needs to get out of the system or it tries to push itself back through the supercharger blades, basically trying to force it to slow down but it cant since it is belt driven so it causes unwanted stress on the bearings.

Sounds like I will need the Tial. What parts do I need to be able to install the Tial on your kit Topgunz? I searched through your thread and while I found pictures I don't know what the parts are of the sleeves and the metal Tee pipe that the Tial BOV attaches to. Do I get the 38mm or 50mm Tial?

TopgunZ 02-21-2017 10:41 AM

Easiest thing to do is just let me have it all sent to your house. I think you have the earlier version when i still had the 45* coming off the supercharger into a 2.5" right?

Kamillio 02-21-2017 10:45 AM

Yes, let me PM you.


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