RJ MFG Supercharger kit Feeler...

Chuck33079 · 03-09-2017, 09:32 PM

I don't see how anyone could realistically expect to boost a Z for under $10k out the door. If you're out the door under 15k consider yourself lucky.

Zat_Zuma · 03-10-2017, 12:20 PM

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Originally Posted by Chuck33079

I don't see how anyone could realistically expect to boost a Z for under $10k out the door. If you're out the door under 15k consider yourself lucky.

There is nothing cheap about FI. Whether its the cost of the kit or support mods to make thing safe and keep it together.

You want to play with more power? You have to pay the price OR you may go BOOM. There are no short cuts in a FI survivor game.

cooltoy · 03-10-2017, 12:25 PM

Zat_Zuma · 03-10-2017, 12:36 PM

ROFL .......

Seen that once with a Honda turbo setup. Wish I had the camera lol

Jayhovah · 03-10-2017, 12:37 PM

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Originally Posted by cooltoy

That will probably be me. I managed to boost under 10k.

B&W_Evader · 03-10-2017, 12:48 PM

He doesn't even react to the explosion. Almost like he was expecting it.

dashinja · 03-15-2017, 01:50 PM

chuck33079 - I don't see how anyone could realistically expect to boost a Z for under $10k out the door. If you're out the door under 15k consider yourself lucky.

6200$ installed for stillen supercharger. +500$ for dyno tune. sure wish rjm had theres made before I bought mine tho

Chuck33079 · 03-15-2017, 02:01 PM

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Originally Posted by dashinja

chuck33079 - I don't see how anyone could realistically expect to boost a Z for under $10k out the door. If you're out the door under 15k consider yourself lucky.

6200$ installed for stillen supercharger. +500$ for dyno tune. sure wish rjm had theres made before I bought mine tho

Then you skipped a LOT of supporting mods. Also, Stillen is junk unless you throw out the water-to-air intercooler and upgrade it. Otherwise it's a time bomb. There's a reason Stillen kits destroy motors at a far higher rate than other kits. Also, those numbers you dropped mean you must have already had an upgraded clutch, exhaust, etc. Owning a Stillen kit as it was shipped just shows an almost astounding lack of research. You should get in touch with TopgunZ for what you need to correct the critical flaws of that kit, or you may be shortblock shopping before you want to.

wideglideleon · 03-15-2017, 02:08 PM

Jayhovah · 03-15-2017, 02:38 PM

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Originally Posted by dashinja

chuck33079 - I don't see how anyone could realistically expect to boost a Z for under $10k out the door. If you're out the door under 15k consider yourself lucky.

6200$ installed for stillen supercharger. +500$ for dyno tune. sure wish rjm had theres made before I bought mine tho

It can be done for 10k, but you have to do the labor yourself and try to save money where you can. It's easy when you are spending thousands of dollars to do something like spend a couple of extra hundred bucks for a really nice boost gauge - but stuff like that adds up pretty quickly. It also depends on what your use of the car is going to be... If you are tracking the car, you are probably also looking at upgrading brakes, suspension, and LSD... in my case I am just building a fast street car and I haven't felt any shortcomings with the extra power from my stock sport suspension and brakes.

BP Kit - $7000 (remove the Uprev license from the package)
Z1 Clutch/Flywheel - $750
HD CSC - $300
Ecutek License/Tune - $900
Cheap Boost Gauge - $100
Cheap Cat-back Exhaust - $600
Cheap Test Pipes - $150
= $9800
(Probably a little over 10k after shipping)

This represents probably the minimum equipment to get this done while still getting some bang for your buck and getting all brand new equipment. Much more can be saved if you wait for sales and are willing to buy parts second hand - I have a good bit less than 10k spent in going boosted. We could argue for days on whether this is really enough "supporting mods"...but I am at 10k boosted miles with essentially this barebones of a setup and am perfectly happy with the results. I recently changed my Diff bushings, but the OEM were still intact, believe it or not... and since this is a mod you are likely to have to do regardless of boosting, I did not include it in the list. You can all reserve the right to laugh in my face when I am the guy in the GIF above.

dashinja · 03-15-2017, 02:45 PM

chuck33079 - weve all done our research on stillen. we all know its flaws. we all know topgunz sells an a-a kit, and we all know the benefits to it. your not the only one that "knows everything". stillens kits install in 4 hours on the ground, that's the only reason I went with it. and that includes installing a 34 row z1 setrab oil cooler kit and a frozenboost intercooler. and your right, I already has a stage 4 clutch installed with a lightweight flywheel, tilton racing master and a zspeed slave. but again, installing a clutch in one of these can be done in under an hour on a hoist so its not like I saved much time.

TopgunZ · 03-15-2017, 02:46 PM

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Originally Posted by Jayhovah

It can be done for 10k, but you have to do the labor yourself and try to save money where you can. It's easy when you are spending thousands of dollars to do something like spend a couple of extra hundred bucks for a really nice boost gauge - but stuff like that adds up pretty quickly. It also depends on what your use of the car is going to be... If you are tracking the car, you are probably also looking at upgrading brakes, suspension, and LSD... in my case I am just building a fast street car and I haven't felt any shortcomings with the extra power from my stock sport suspension and brakes.

BP Kit - $7000 (remove the Uprev license from the package)
Z1 Clutch/Flywheel - $750
HD CSC - $300
Ecutek License/Tune - $900
Cheap Boost Gauge - $100
Cheap Cat-back Exhaust - $600
Cheap Test Pipes - $150
= $9800
(Probably a little over 10k after shipping)

This represents probably the minimum equipment to get this done while still getting some bang for your buck and getting all brand new equipment. Much more can be saved if you wait for sales and are willing to buy parts second hand - I have a good bit less than 10k spent in going boosted. We could argue for days on whether this is really enough "supporting mods"...but I am at 10k boosted miles with essentially this barebones of a setup and am perfectly happy with the results. I recently changed my Diff bushings, but the OEM were still intact, believe it or not... and since this is a mod you are likely to have to do regardless of boosting, I did not include it in the list. You can all reserve the right to laugh in my face when I am the guy in the GIF above.

Might as well knock $150 off for test pipes. Still cant figure out how you used test pipes with the BP kit.

Jayhovah · 03-15-2017, 02:48 PM

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Originally Posted by TopgunZ

Might as well knock $150 off for test pipes. Still cant figure out how you used test pipes with the BP kit.

Boom! Even cheaper =)
I didn't even think of that, just chose the BP kit for the list since it is one of the least expensive and most DIY friendly options out there for going FI.

Chuck33079 · 03-15-2017, 02:53 PM

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Originally Posted by dashinja

chuck33079 - weve all done our research on stillen. we all know its flaws. we all know topgunz sells an a-a kit, and we all know the benefits to it. your not the only one that "knows everything". stillens kits install in 4 hours on the ground, that's the only reason I went with it. and that includes installing a 34 row z1 setrab oil cooler kit and a frozenboost intercooler. and your right, I already has a stage 4 clutch installed with a lightweight flywheel, tilton racing master and a zspeed slave. but again, installing a clutch in one of these can be done in under an hour on a hoist so its not like I saved much time.

At no point did I claim I knew everything. And, had you filled your first post with the additional info you just posted, it would have made a lot more sense. Once you added in all of the things you listed, what's your final otd cost? Still under the 10k?

dashinja · 03-15-2017, 03:17 PM

chuck33079 - you make no sense. no kits come with clutch upgrades, so if your going to add that price to the stillen kit then I guess we need to jump the rjm kit to 20k just so it has all your "supporting mods that are mandatory due to chucks law" . and I mean why stop there? lets add a forged block to the kit too and a quafe diff. the only thing mandatory is the oil cooler kit - and stillen offers their gold cooler for free, but I already had z1's better cooler. Theres countless forums on what can be improved on stillens kit, but if you think theyre wont be pages upon pages on the rjm kit, youre again wrong, just wait till its released.

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03-09-2017, 09:32 PM	#511 (permalink)
Chuck33079 A True Z Fanatic Join Date: Nov 2011 Location: Houston Posts: 12,265 Drives: 2011 370ztt Rep Power: 29539	I don't see how anyone could realistically expect to boost a Z for under $10k out the door. If you're out the door under 15k consider yourself lucky. jaytirbhaw, EZT, BlackZeda and 3 others like this. __________________ 2011 MB Touring-Sport-6sp-Nav/GTM TT/FI TT TDX/JTran/Kosmic/Eibach/Hotchkis/SPC/CSF/RPS/SoThatsWhereAllMyMoneyWent

03-10-2017, 12:25 PM	#513 (permalink)
cooltoy Elite Member Join Date: Jun 2012 Location: Calgary Posts: 13,973 Drives: 14 PW 370Z S/T MT Rep Power: 243722	BlackZeda and JJ's370z like this. __________________ Member of kenchan's "photoshopped mods" and "proper offsets" gang.

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Zat_Zuma A True Z Fanatic Join Date: Nov 2008 Location: Edmonton, Alberta ...eh Posts: 1,171 Drives: 2017 Touring auto Rep Power: 19	ROFL ....... Seen that once with a Honda turbo setup. Wish I had the camera lol __________________ [B]2009 & 2017 370Z Touring Sport Autos SOLD

03-10-2017, 12:48 PM	#516 (permalink)
B&W_Evader Track Member Join Date: Aug 2011 Location: CA Posts: 972 Drives: slower than before Rep Power: 387	He doesn't even react to the explosion. Almost like he was expecting it. BlackZeda likes this. __________________ \|RIP\|6spd-sport\|OSG-LSD\|XP8\|RBF600\|Eibach Sways\|RE-71R\|FI-34Row\|Gen3-CAI\|Yaw P.S.\|

03-15-2017, 01:50 PM	#517 (permalink)
dashinja Banned Join Date: Feb 2017 Location: edmonton Posts: 3 Drives: 2009 370z stillen Rep Power: 0	chuck33079 - I don't see how anyone could realistically expect to boost a Z for under $10k out the door. If you're out the door under 15k consider yourself lucky. 6200$ installed for stillen supercharger. +500$ for dyno tune. sure wish rjm had theres made before I bought mine tho

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03-15-2017, 02:45 PM	#521 (permalink)
dashinja Banned Join Date: Feb 2017 Location: edmonton Posts: 3 Drives: 2009 370z stillen Rep Power: 0	chuck33079 - weve all done our research on stillen. we all know its flaws. we all know topgunz sells an a-a kit, and we all know the benefits to it. your not the only one that "knows everything". stillens kits install in 4 hours on the ground, that's the only reason I went with it. and that includes installing a 34 row z1 setrab oil cooler kit and a frozenboost intercooler. and your right, I already has a stage 4 clutch installed with a lightweight flywheel, tilton racing master and a zspeed slave. but again, installing a clutch in one of these can be done in under an hour on a hoist so its not like I saved much time.

03-15-2017, 03:17 PM	#525 (permalink)
dashinja Banned Join Date: Feb 2017 Location: edmonton Posts: 3 Drives: 2009 370z stillen Rep Power: 0	chuck33079 - you make no sense. no kits come with clutch upgrades, so if your going to add that price to the stillen kit then I guess we need to jump the rjm kit to 20k just so it has all your "supporting mods that are mandatory due to chucks law" . and I mean why stop there? lets add a forged block to the kit too and a quafe diff. the only thing mandatory is the oil cooler kit - and stillen offers their gold cooler for free, but I already had z1's better cooler. Theres countless forums on what can be improved on stillens kit, but if you think theyre wont be pages upon pages on the rjm kit, youre again wrong, just wait till its released.

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