Whats needed for TT Install?

alanforn

Noobie member here. I'm planning to meet with AAM next week to discuss TT on my 09 base/manual. This car is bone stock, I'm trying to educate myself the best I can before meeting to attempt to grasp what I will need to make this transition. I know I will upgrade suspension over winter but am trying to take advantage of their scheduling so I know I'm probably doing this a bit backwards. From searching the forum I've kind of come up with my understanding, trying to differentiate between minimal must haves up front versus really should haves which I will do over the winter. This is my understanding, please help me fill in the voids.

Must Haves Upfront:
TT kit
Exhaust
Clutch/Flywheel/upgraded CSC
Tune/UpRev
Gauges/Controller (if I plan on leaving at low boost is this needed?)
Upgraded motor/tranny mounts

Over the winter after install:
Upgraded rear differential and mounting bushings
Suspension/tires

Trying to make this a stealth build so not planning on body kits, etc.

I apologize if this has been covered before, please excuse my ignorance!

Thanks!
Alan

Jayhovah

I think you pretty much got all the necessities. I am actually running the OEM motor/tranny mounts as well as rear diff bushings... I won't bother to change them out until I need to.

Gauges are your preference... I actually ran gaugeless for a while and now I only have a boost gauge. I don't run a boost controller either... my kit has small internal wastegates and they are maxed out as it is. This really depends on your power goals.

You should definitely look into Ecutek over Uprev. It is far superior in every single way, aside from not being able to tune it yourself.... but of course that might be limited to what is available in your area. Making sure you pick a good tuner that has experience with this platform is THE MOST IMPORTANT THING. SpecialtyZ does offer remote Ecutek tuning and some folks have gone with that option since he is a known commodity and has an excellent track record... But that process seems to take a long time.

One thing you may consider is putting the clutch/flywheel/CSC on first so you can break it in before the turbo kit... It could be challenging to tune if you are still in the breakin period.

Hope this helps! There is a lot of good information on the forum if you search around.

Edit: Forgot one thing! If the kit doesn't come with it, you'll probably need an oil cooler. I don't personally run one, but I run the Gamma oil pan which is a big aluminum heatsink and increases the capacity by a couple of quarts as well. No problems with it even in the florida heat, but I also do not track the car. I personally think this pan is a highly underutilized option... it also has TT oil return ports built in, and I don't need to fumble with oil cooler block off plates in the winter. The one drawback is that changing the oil filter is a little messy.

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JSur

I have the aam tt kit and I live in Florida like the guy above. Oil cooler is a must and if you can spare the change go with an aftermarket radiator. Mishimoto makes a really nice aluminum radiator with a slightly larger capacity AND built in AC condenser. only 700 bucks, in my opinion totally worth it. Z's are infamous for running hot. One more thing you may have over looked, BRAKES! Make your car as fast as you want but if you can't stop you're in some real trouble hahaha


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YzGyz

Scratch the mishi off and get CSF 3x pass rad. I drag my car often enough often doing back to back to back to back runs with a short 10 minutes wait in line to run again. I don't ever see oil temp over 200*.

In addition, I would change the engine mounts out while you or the shop is in there. It will be the easiest time to do it.

YzGyz

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Fuel return system

Infidel

Several thousand dollars in reserve stashed away somewhere

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BGTV8

This ^

Initial budget plus at least 50% to avoid having the car broken and in the shop for a year - not sure of the quote you currently have, but figure on +50% for "other stuff".

And repeat after me .... a rough rule of thumb is $1K per PSI of boost up to 10psi and $2K for each additional PSI above 10.

Spooler

Oil cooler is a must have. Diff bushings are a must. Budget for 20 to 25k. Aftermarket radiator is not needed. Ecutek is preferred for tuning.

Kris9884

$20-25k? Ouch? I keep hearing that number and for only 5-600hp, that's pretty sad . I think swapping in a 2J or RB or really any other motor with the same number goals would be far more reliable while also being much more economic. Yes I know, there's millions of other threads for this so don't waste your breath debating it with me but man, the premium prices for such low returns are crazy on this platform..

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Jayhovah

Maybe I am naive, but I think that number is a little out of sorts and very much depends on your power goals and how much labor you are supplying yourself.

I have less than 10k invested in going TT and that includes the $400 in labor for farming out my clutch/flywheel/CSC installation.. I did the rest of it on my own.

That being said.. if I wanted to go to the next level in power it would come with a pretty hefty price tag.

If you keep things basic and only want 500whp, it can be done for a reasonable price.

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Kris9884

I agree^^. I would be the only one to physically turn the wrench on my car, I've just always been that way. For me, the only thing I would pay for help with is the tune, I wouldn't know where to begin lol. So to budget for a turbo kit and tune I could easily aim for around $10-12k after random side pieces and road blocks, even then I hope for less being a rear mounted setup.

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solidus

If you're talking to AAM I'd say have them package the kit and install/tune. That way all you do is pay and enjoy. If you're feeling adventurous then buy the kit and install it yourself. Caveat to that is that you're shaking down your own work. I have Uprev but I agree that if this is your first you're better off with Ecutek. Word of advice: If you get a boost controller nake damned sure that the installer and the tuner are familiar with it. That sh*t is expensive. And the best advice in this post is to set aside 50% of the build cost for "situations". Boosted people problems.

SwissCheese

Are you opposed to a single turbo kit? Boosted Performance offers a twin-scroll single turbo kit that's around $7,700 for the turn-key kit. It's supposed to be one of the easiest turbo installs for our cars, and it has very similar performance gains to a TT set-up.

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Nithmo

So what's the benefit of going twin turbo vs single turbo? I know there's a thread talking about each, but I still don't know what you gain by adding that extra turbo. Is it power sooner in the rpm band?

Also, LOL at the guys complaining about *just* 500-600hp. Keep in mind the base car only weighs 3250 lbs... that's a lot of power for a light car. I can't even imagine why you'd go higher than that. Unless of course, you have no need for traction. I can't imagine a 600hp Z being butt loads faster than an 800hp one.

Jayhovah

You get faster spool by bringing the turbos much closer to the exhaust ports and you keep exhaust pulses from colliding with one another... but there are a lot of great builds using the BP kit these days and it looks like they build boost pretty fast to me.. he uses a twin scroll turbo so it eliminates the exhaust pulse issue.

One potential downside of the BP design is the turbo sits low and is at slightly more risk of getting hit by something and you probably couldnt drive through minor flooding - I am only speculating here though.

Other than that... the twins are more expensive, complex, and laborious to install.

Both types of kits have pros and cons... I love my twin turbos and I got a crazy good deal on my kit... But if I was weighing my options now it would be pretty tough not to get a BP kit.

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