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Originally Posted by bullitt5897 A built 3.7L motor will get you to 1000hp without a problem. However, its to be noted that quality components and a good engine builder can

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Old 05-02-2016, 04:42 PM   #31 (permalink)
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A built 3.7L motor will get you to 1000hp without a problem. However, its to be noted that quality components and a good engine builder can make or break your car and its reliability. For internals I would look into Arias, CP, Mahle, and Carillo. These are the top manufacturers that everyoe with a reliable build is running. A few have chosen K1 rods which are a medium grade budget rod. Its a great rod for those in the 600-700hp range but for 1000hp I would go carillo or Mahle. Arias and CP make great pistons for the Z and have proven to be extremely tough.

Just remember when you go stage 3 with FI they customize your turbos to your motor size to ensure you get the best efficiency and response from the kit. I have had long conversations with Tony (the owner) of Fast Intentions and their mentality to Turbo kits is SPOT ON!

As far as fuel system there are multiple options AAM is one option. However CJM is another option. You will want to go to a twin pump and ID1300's as a minimum.

Remember when you mod this far you have to have the expectation that more service is going to be needed. The reason I say this is because your taking a car making 330bhp and now pushing 350+% more power through the chassis and drivetrain. If your wanting to stage the build I would get a built motor with mild headwork (upgraded valves and retainers plus a port job) in stock displacement and compression and run that until your ready to throw the TT kit and fuel system in at one time.

Staging the install is going to cost your more in the long run if you are using a shop to do the labor. its best to do it all in 1 shot and I would splurge and get ecutek!
So it would be a good idea to use these for my build?

Carillo Rods: https://www.z1motorsports.com/engine...hr-p-8883.html

CP Pistons: Can't find the link (link it..?)

FI Stage III: FI 370Z Twin Turbo System, Fast Intentions

AAM Comp Twin Fuel Pump: AAM Competition - Nissan GT-R, 370Z Turbo Performance Specialists (with ID2000 & AAM Fuel Line Kit)

I have other questions for parts that I'd like to have your suggestion on.

Exhaust? I'm thinking of going with the AAM COMPETITION 370Z R-LINE 3" TRUE DUAL EXHAUST, which sounds great! Not sure how reliable though. I was thinking of going with the FI TT TDX, but after watching the video decided against it, not loud enough for me. Also going to go with the AAM 2.5" Test Pipes, but what do you suggest?

Spark plugs..?

No point in going on, I'm basically asking for your opinion on the ENTIRE build for a reliable 1000hp+ 370z.

Thanks for the input man!
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So it would be a good idea to use these for my build?

Carillo Rods: https://www.z1motorsports.com/engine...hr-p-8883.html

CP Pistons: Can't find the link (link it..?)

FI Stage III: FI 370Z Twin Turbo System, Fast Intentions

AAM Comp Twin Fuel Pump: AAM Competition - Nissan GT-R, 370Z Turbo Performance Specialists (with ID2000 & AAM Fuel Line Kit)

I have other questions for parts that I'd like to have your suggestion on.

Exhaust? I'm thinking of going with the AAM COMPETITION 370Z R-LINE 3" TRUE DUAL EXHAUST, which sounds great! Not sure how reliable though. I was thinking of going with the FI TT TDX, but after watching the video decided against it, not loud enough for me. Also going to go with the AAM 2.5" Test Pipes, but what do you suggest?

Spark plugs..?

No point in going on, I'm basically asking for your opinion on the ENTIRE build for a reliable 1000hp+ 370z.

Thanks for the input man!
For the fuel system, pm phunk and get his thoughts. He's pretty much a one-stop shop for all your fuel needs.
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Ok. So when I look at compressor maps showing flow for different sized turbos showing dramatically different cfm at the same PR, what am I missing?

Like in the following: Compressor maps - examples and explanation
You're missing the fact that you are confusing flow rate and PSI and what each means to the motor. CFM coming out of the compressor has nothing to do with the PSI (the amount of air) entering the motor. The motor can only naturally accept (Naturally Aspirated) so much air. Forced Induction does what it says forces more air into the motor using a generated pressure difference (PSI, bar, etc.) CFM only comes into play if the compressor cannot flow high enough to make the desired PSI.

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OP to answer your questions:

1. Yes those are the carillo pro H rods and are G2G!
2. Check out the manufacturers websites for the piston part numbers.
3. Yeah that will work
4. There fuel system is good to about 1200whp on pump and 1000whp on e85 according to their tech.
5. Go 3" where ever you can on the exhaust! back pressure on the exhaust will hamper your turbo performance from my experience so far.
6. Go HKS 1 step colder spark plugs or NGK 1 step colder.

Remember this is only the start to the build there are a TON of small items that no one thinks about.... What you have here is a good start but is only the big ticket items... its the little ones that get you once they all add up.
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OP to answer your questions:

1. Yes those are the carillo pro H rods and are G2G!
2. Check out the manufacturers websites for the piston part numbers.
3. Yeah that will work
4. There fuel system is good to about 1200whp on pump and 1000whp on e85 according to their tech.
5. Go 3" where ever you can on the exhaust! back pressure on the exhaust will hamper your turbo performance from my experience so far.
6. Go HKS 1 step colder spark plugs or NGK 1 step colder.

Remember this is only the start to the build there are a TON of small items that no one thinks about.... What you have here is a good start but is only the big ticket items... its the little ones that get you once they all add up.
I see, I'll definitely look around and keep updated on other build threads such as CarbonZ's and yours.. I'll let you know when I start my build and hopefully you'll be able to help me out with any questions I have, especially for those "small parts."

Thanks man!
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You won't need test pipes with a forced induction build. Your turbo downpipes will replace those.

As far as spark plugs, I believe the GTR spark plugs are the NGK step colder plugs. Someone correct me if I'm wrong.

Also, I'm assuming you will have someone (a shop) build you your motor. If you go that route you should be able to tell them what power you are shooting for and they can (should) build a motor capable of that power. They can source all the parts you need without you even having to think about it. Now, if you do go that route, prepare to spend some change. Shops make money off of selling parts as well as labor. Getting a built motor for 1000whp will be much more expensive than just adding some parts prices together. Some more high profile shops will charge you top dollar. Places like IPP have built motor packages priced pretty well. Do your research and shop around. Call around to all of the big name Z shops and talk with them. Find which ones you feel comfortable with throwing your money at.

You have a lot of research to do. Follow the words of wisdom from some of the guys here on the forums. But also do research outside of these forums and get a good understanding of this crazy turbo world. There are a million variables when it comes to making power like that. Not only in the motor but the entire drivetrain. Tuning. I could go on and on. It's fun, exciting, brain hurting, stressful, expensive, taxing, exhilarating all rolled up in one ball lol. Good luck. You seem like you have been pointed in the right direction.
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You won't need test pipes with a forced induction build. Your turbo downpipes will replace those.

As far as spark plugs, I believe the GTR spark plugs are the NGK step colder plugs. Someone correct me if I'm wrong.

Also, I'm assuming you will have someone (a shop) build you your motor. If you go that route you should be able to tell them what power you are shooting for and they can (should) build a motor capable of that power. They can source all the parts you need without you even having to think about it. Now, if you do go that route, prepare to spend some change. Shops make money off of selling parts as well as labor. Getting a built motor for 1000whp will be much more expensive than just adding some parts prices together. Some more high profile shops will charge you top dollar. Places like IPP have built motor packages priced pretty well. Do your research and shop around. Call around to all of the big name Z shops and talk with them. Find which ones you feel comfortable with throwing your money at.

You have a lot of research to do. Follow the words of wisdom from some of the guys here on the forums. But also do research outside of these forums and get a good understanding of this crazy turbo world. There are a million variables when it comes to making power like that. Not only in the motor but the entire drivetrain. Tuning. I could go on and on. It's fun, exciting, brain hurting, stressful, expensive, taxing, exhilarating all rolled up in one ball lol. Good luck. You seem like you have been pointed in the right direction.
I've got my own shop down here in Orlando, so I don't think I'll have to have a shop build it for me.. but going to the big Z shops around and asking what parts to use for my 1000hp build is definitely something I'm going to do. My shop isn't as "big" as other places around such as Titan Motorsports, Real Street Performance, etc.. But it's a shop that I use for only my cars, I don't have customers. So more like a personal shop. I'd like to assemble the motor myself, since I'll know 100% sure that every nut and bolt is on there.
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I've got my own shop down here in Orlando, so I don't think I'll have to have a shop build it for me.. but going to the big Z shops around and asking what parts to use for my 1000hp build is definitely something I'm going to do. My shop isn't as "big" as other places around such as Titan Motorsports, Real Street Performance, etc.. But it's a shop that I use for only my cars, I don't have customers. So more like a personal shop. I'd like to assemble the motor myself, since I'll know 100% sure that every nut and bolt is on there.


That's what I am doing as well. You are going to learn a whole lot in this process and you are going to spend a lot of money on quality tools. That's assuming you don't already have them. If you have any questions feel free to ask. I'm no expert by any means but I know a few things.
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