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Hotrodz 02-19-2016 07:10 PM

Lol, yes I did and it's a good my fair haired brother. Last year was a blast meeting you and hanging with the FI gang for the week. Looking forward to it again here in a few months.

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jcosta79 02-19-2016 07:30 PM

Ok, it seems clear that FI is the way to go. I guess my next step will be to speak with them directly and formulate a game plan. Thanks everyone for your input! I really appreciate it.

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Spooler 02-19-2016 07:47 PM

I would be in line for a kit from FI, just got to many other money pits going on at the moment. This suxs for me.

Hotrodz 02-19-2016 08:31 PM

We will be waiting when you are ready to jump in!

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Hotrodz 02-19-2016 08:32 PM

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Originally Posted by jcosta79 (Post 3418234)
Ok, it seems clear that FI is the way to go. I guess my next step will be to speak with them directly and formulate a game plan. Thanks everyone for your input! I really appreciate it.

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You will not be disappointed!

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VSS370z 02-19-2016 08:34 PM

Since Fast Intentions came around its been my one stop shop to build the car like i have wanted. You can say i am also a fanboy. Their exhaust and twin turbo kit are top of the line products and their customer service have always been 2nd to none. Very proud to still be the only one to have their kit in P.R. Call them you won't regret it!

axmea? 02-19-2016 09:29 PM

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Originally Posted by jcosta79 (Post 3418067)
* Poor dealer network (Jotech says they won't give them dealer pricing on a kit)

Also, does the FI kit keep the OEM oil filter locations so that one can still easily change your own oil?

Simply because Jotech was not selected does not mean FI has poor dealer network. Tony's made it clear that he was going to be selective on who carries his product. Not a knock on Jotech. Just relaying a conscious business decision.

Since you are already in Texas, why not go for AAM? Jotech is close by and will provide the support you are looking for. That is unless you can find a shop that carries FI and can service your vehicle. I'm sure there is one in DFW.

Strange question on the OEM oil filter location btw.

Chuy 02-19-2016 09:42 PM

FI has a huge following, so there will be more people voting for them. I vote for the AAM kit just looking at what parts are what and the ease of installation from my buddies.

Chuck33079 02-19-2016 09:42 PM

AAM vs Fast Intentions - Need Help With Comparison
 
Edit - If Tony's cool with it than so am I.

tonyHTX 02-19-2016 11:41 PM

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Originally Posted by Chuck33079 (Post 3418322)
Edit - If Tony's cool with it than so am I.

Not entirely true - we just were one of the first to install the kit outside of AAM whom never encountered the issue which we were challenged with, thus we took it upon ourselves to find a solution on our own. We did report our findings/adjustments to AAM in the end, whether or not changes were implemented to subsequent kits I do not know. :icon17:

When I was purchasing my setup FI didn't have a kit for the G and wouldn't sell me one, on the other hand AAM allowed for my car being a test mule which worked out for me in the end.

I think the main difference between the kits are the turbos. The EFR turbos on the AAM kit are internally gated and also have recirculated bovs. This makes install slightly simpler, but makes maintenance of said parts more difficult. Also since the bovs don't vent to atmosphere the signature turbo purge sound is not there unless dual port valves are installed (this requires notching the passenger side motor bracket). Since FI uses external wastegates and vta bovs maintenance of those parts (if any) should be easier and of course the purge sound is there!

Another difference is the stock crash bar can be used with the AAM kit, but FI does offer a crashbar of their own (which looks quite sexy :yum:).

I think your best bet is to contact both manufacturers and compare all facets from design, price, install difficulty, maintenance, and customer service.

Jotech is a standup place and regardless of which kit you choose I'm sure the end result will be many smiles per hour! :tup:

Chuck33079 02-19-2016 11:47 PM

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Originally Posted by tonyHTX (Post 3418368)
Not entirely true - we just were one of the first to install the kit outside of AAM whom never encountered the issue which we were challenged with, thus we took it upon ourselves to find a solution on our own. We did report our findings/adjustments to AAM in the end, whether or not changes were implemented to subsequent kits I do not know. :icon17:

When I was purchasing my setup FI didn't have a kit for the G and wouldn't sell me one, on the other hand AAM allowed for my car being a test mule which worked out for me in the end.

I think the main difference between the kits are the turbos. The EFR turbos on the AAM kit are internally gated and also have recirculated bovs. This makes install slightly simpler, but makes maintenance of said parts more difficult. Also since the bovs don't vent to atmosphere the signature turbo purge sound is not there unless dual port valves are installed (this requires notching the passenger side motor mount). Since FI uses external wastegates and vta bovs maintenance of those parts (if any) should be easier and of course the purge sound is there!

Another difference is the stock crash bar can be used with the AAM kit, but FI does offer a crashbar of their own (which looks quite sexy :yum:).

I think your best bet is to contact both manufacturers and compare all facets from design, price, install difficulty, maintenance, and customer service.

Jotech is a standup place and regardless of which kit you choose I'm sure the end result will be many smiles per hour! :tup:


Hey, if you're cool with it then great. I'm of a mind that the consumer shouldn't have to reengineer something that's sold as bolt-on. At the end of the day, you've got a monster of a car. I just think they should have brought some solutions to the table for you.

tonyHTX 02-19-2016 11:59 PM

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Originally Posted by Chuck33079 (Post 3418370)
Hey, if you're cool with it then great. I'm of a mind that the consumer shouldn't have to reengineer something that's sold as bolt-on. At the end of the day, you've got a monster of a car. I just think they should have brought some solutions to the table for you.

But you have to keep in mind at the time of my purchase the kit had never been fitted to my vehicle before. We were allowed to take the project on knowing there might be tweaks needed and agreed to report back our results. AAM did try to support us but, again, they never encountered the issue before. I appreciate the opportunity AAM gave us and the end result.

On the other hand, the situation we encountered is probably one of the underlying reasons why Tony wouldn't sell me an FI kit and I respect that decision. :tup:

Chuck33079 02-20-2016 12:08 AM

Fair enough. You've got a hell of a car. I just didn't realize it was so different that you need a scavenge pump when a z does not. Not sure how, but fair enough. Statement retracted.

I think we can both agree we're lucky that a certain local shop can figure out the kinks in a build like that. That's why they're on my speed dial.

1cleanZ 02-20-2016 08:32 AM

First, how is having an elite exclusive dealer network a bad thing? You have certified installers and dealers that know the product inside and out, vs the alternative, whoring and discounting "special offers" and discounts every chance you can with any pickup online store possible to advertise for them (not mentioning any names, but I think you can get the hint)

As for the systems themselves, they actually are both extremely different. Internal vs external optional waste gates, completely different turbos, sizing of the intercooler, etc

Honestly the ONLY pro to the AAM kit would be retaining the oem crash bar(to those who that's important to), but FI (as detail oriented as they are) made an after market tow hook bar from roll cage tubing, probably just as, if not stronger then you OEM crash bar.

Last but not least, take a CLOSE look at all the actual craftsmanship between the two kits from current customers review photos. You'll see a large difference between the quality of bends, welds, and attention to detail between the two.

FI cons? = zero, maybe that they don't give discounts for advertising purposes, because they have no reason to! The kit sells itself. No discounts, undercutting, marketing gimmicks needed. You get what you paid for, period.

zguynate 02-20-2016 10:10 AM

It's going to be hard to get a real comparison here since a good comparison will come from people who have experience with both kits, which will probably only come from people in shops.

From what I have seen, both the FI kit and AAM kit are great kits. I personally own the AAM kit and from a hardware standpoint, the kit is awesome. I haven't installed it yet, so I don't have anything first hand to say about performance. The AAM kit comes out of the box good for over 700whp with the right fuel upgrades. I don't know if you have to buy a turbo upgrade to reach that power with the FI kit. I personally like the idea of the internally gated wastegates and "BOV" on the EFR turbos. It makes plumbing easy and I'm a "sleeper" fan.

Fast Intentions has a huge following here on the forums therefore you will get a lot of people saying they prefer Fast Intentions. They do have great products, so that's for good reason. However, AAM seems to be the red headed step child here. People will say the FI kit is better and not really know much about the AAM kit. I have had good experiences with AAM as a company and their products. The best 350z exhaust is the AAM single IMO, which is why I modified one to fit my 370z. What I'm saying is AAM offers some great products and it's easy to overlook when the forum favorite is FI.

Based off of my observations only (note not experience because I can't comment on both) I don't think it's really a matter of which kit is better per se, but more of which you prefer. Read up on FI and AAM builds and see what you personally like and dislike about both kits. If you want a BOV, FI will probably be a better buy for you. If you like sleeper and OEM fit, AAM is a good choice. I'm pretty sure if you talk with owners who actually own their respective kits, they will all tell you they love them. You may have to seek out the AAM owners as there aren't as many as FI owners, but if you're going to be making the plunge and are on the fence, doing your diligent research on each will benefit you.


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