Topgunz - air to air upgrade

TopgunZ · 04-18-2016, 11:41 AM

When I first had it on and I was making 9.5psi it didn't flutter at all. Then after the intake mod and dyno making closer to 13psi, you can hear it at the right moment with the right throttle and rpms. It is no where near what the Turbosmart is.

BTW. When do you get back on the dyno?

EVOHUNTER · 04-18-2016, 04:51 PM

Im on the dyno may 23rd, im going to tackle this BPV this up coming weekend.

TopgunZ · 04-18-2016, 09:37 PM

I can't remember, What pulley setup do you have on or what will it be when you do?

EVOHUNTER · 04-18-2016, 09:57 PM

not sure to be honest lol..
serpentine side - stillen 9 psi.
stock jack
2.75 blower side.
stock impeller.

TopgunZ · 04-18-2016, 10:55 PM

Dang man. You will be over max impeller speed by 13k. Risky but while it holds together it should make some crazy power.

BOLIO 671 · 04-19-2016, 03:49 AM

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Originally Posted by TopgunZ

Dang man. You will be over max impeller speed by 13k. Risky but while it holds together it should make some crazy power.

Topz....so the 9psi pulley from Stillen overspins the blower? I remember you posting something about this a few posts back about why Stillen has you sign the waiver. Or is it when you go Air 2 Air that causes it to overspin the supercharger? A little confused about this.

If your stock everything stillen and have the 9lb pulley your overspinning?

TopgunZ · 04-19-2016, 08:44 AM

Superchargers are driven by belts so by going Air to Air would have zero effect on how fast the supercharger spins. The one and only thing that changes it is pulley ratio.

Yes, with just the 9psi pulley you do slightly overspin the blower. There are guys that have been doing this for years. There are mustangs overspinning by much more than this. The only one I have heard of letting go is Jwicks but he wasn't all that confident in his rebuild when he put the 928 upgraded impeller in.

Vortech puts a rating on there to cover their product. If they didn't guys would be spinning them at ridiculous speeds then asking for a free one when it breaks.

The way I look at it is that I have never seen a post like "I put the 9psi pulley on, now my supercharger is toast".. or something like that. If there were more instances then I would worry.

With just the 9psi pulley it overspins it by about 3K. Now if you were to overspin it by 10K+, then I would advise against it. Guys are overspinning the V2 units by 15K, but those are fed oil differently.

EVOHUNTER · 04-19-2016, 10:03 AM

Im going to run the stock serp, stock jack and 2.75 charger.

54000k, should be ok? hahah

TopgunZ · 04-19-2016, 10:27 AM

Shouldn't have any problems with that config. I swapped my COG setup in last night. This will put me at 56K.

StillenZ84 · 04-19-2016, 03:29 PM

Topgunz was spot on with figuring out what filter would work best with the air to air setup. Fits almost perfectly and sits in there very snug. From the front you can see that this setup will be getting plenty of cold air. For the filter to fit better and for piece of mind, I used a small 1/8"x 1/2" rubber spacer that I placed on the lip of the supercharger inlet before I slipped on the air filter. This just allowed for a much tighter grip.

TopgunZ · 04-19-2016, 03:36 PM

Lookin' Good Evan! That rubber spacer will be included with all future kits.

Pauly Z · 04-19-2016, 04:05 PM

Where can I get one of those? Part number? I have been looking all over for something like that.

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TopgunZ · 04-19-2016, 04:07 PM

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Originally Posted by Pauly Z

Where can I get one of those? Part number? I have been looking all over for something like that.

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Pauly Z · 04-19-2016, 04:10 PM

Lol, really. I don't need a kit. I would have if it was out sooner. I'm getting the car tuned right now. But that's a whole other issue.

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swiss370Z · 04-19-2016, 04:10 PM

Sorry for the "jump-in"!

The Air-suction point is in a warm place!

Do not you want to optimize the fresh intake air something?
A pipe laying in the front region of the front,
or in the left pane in the wheel!
Where the fresh air is still cool!

Just so my idea?!

04-18-2016, 11:41 AM	#226 (permalink)
TopgunZ A True Z Fanatic Join Date: Jun 2012 Location: Minneapolis Posts: 2,651 Drives: 06 350Z , 09 370Z MT Rep Power: 6834	When I first had it on and I was making 9.5psi it didn't flutter at all. Then after the intake mod and dyno making closer to 13psi, you can hear it at the right moment with the right throttle and rpms. It is no where near what the Turbosmart is. BTW. When do you get back on the dyno? __________________ ROTREX SUPERCHARGER TUNER KITS - $6799/ CUSTOM STILLEN AIR TO AIR KITS -$2100/ 700+ WHP!! WWW.TOPGUNSPEEDWORKS.COM

04-18-2016, 04:51 PM	#227 (permalink)
EVOHUNTER Track Member Join Date: Jul 2011 Location: Edmonton, Canada Posts: 681 Drives: BOOSTED3-7-0 Rep Power: 15	Im on the dyno may 23rd, im going to tackle this BPV this up coming weekend. TopgunZ likes this. __________________

04-18-2016, 09:37 PM	#228 (permalink)
TopgunZ A True Z Fanatic Join Date: Jun 2012 Location: Minneapolis Posts: 2,651 Drives: 06 350Z , 09 370Z MT Rep Power: 6834	I can't remember, What pulley setup do you have on or what will it be when you do? __________________ ROTREX SUPERCHARGER TUNER KITS - $6799/ CUSTOM STILLEN AIR TO AIR KITS -$2100/ 700+ WHP!! WWW.TOPGUNSPEEDWORKS.COM

04-18-2016, 09:57 PM	#229 (permalink)
EVOHUNTER Track Member Join Date: Jul 2011 Location: Edmonton, Canada Posts: 681 Drives: BOOSTED3-7-0 Rep Power: 15	not sure to be honest lol.. serpentine side - stillen 9 psi. stock jack 2.75 blower side. stock impeller. __________________

04-18-2016, 10:55 PM	#230 (permalink)
TopgunZ A True Z Fanatic Join Date: Jun 2012 Location: Minneapolis Posts: 2,651 Drives: 06 350Z , 09 370Z MT Rep Power: 6834	Dang man. You will be over max impeller speed by 13k. Risky but while it holds together it should make some crazy power. __________________ ROTREX SUPERCHARGER TUNER KITS - $6799/ CUSTOM STILLEN AIR TO AIR KITS -$2100/ 700+ WHP!! WWW.TOPGUNSPEEDWORKS.COM

04-19-2016, 08:44 AM	#232 (permalink)
TopgunZ A True Z Fanatic Join Date: Jun 2012 Location: Minneapolis Posts: 2,651 Drives: 06 350Z , 09 370Z MT Rep Power: 6834	Superchargers are driven by belts so by going Air to Air would have zero effect on how fast the supercharger spins. The one and only thing that changes it is pulley ratio. Yes, with just the 9psi pulley you do slightly overspin the blower. There are guys that have been doing this for years. There are mustangs overspinning by much more than this. The only one I have heard of letting go is Jwicks but he wasn't all that confident in his rebuild when he put the 928 upgraded impeller in. Vortech puts a rating on there to cover their product. If they didn't guys would be spinning them at ridiculous speeds then asking for a free one when it breaks. The way I look at it is that I have never seen a post like "I put the 9psi pulley on, now my supercharger is toast".. or something like that. If there were more instances then I would worry. With just the 9psi pulley it overspins it by about 3K. Now if you were to overspin it by 10K+, then I would advise against it. Guys are overspinning the V2 units by 15K, but those are fed oil differently. __________________ ROTREX SUPERCHARGER TUNER KITS - $6799/ CUSTOM STILLEN AIR TO AIR KITS -$2100/ 700+ WHP!! WWW.TOPGUNSPEEDWORKS.COM

04-19-2016, 10:03 AM	#233 (permalink)
EVOHUNTER Track Member Join Date: Jul 2011 Location: Edmonton, Canada Posts: 681 Drives: BOOSTED3-7-0 Rep Power: 15	Im going to run the stock serp, stock jack and 2.75 charger. 54000k, should be ok? hahah blaineanator likes this. __________________

04-19-2016, 10:27 AM	#234 (permalink)
TopgunZ A True Z Fanatic Join Date: Jun 2012 Location: Minneapolis Posts: 2,651 Drives: 06 350Z , 09 370Z MT Rep Power: 6834	Shouldn't have any problems with that config. I swapped my COG setup in last night. This will put me at 56K. __________________ ROTREX SUPERCHARGER TUNER KITS - $6799/ CUSTOM STILLEN AIR TO AIR KITS -$2100/ 700+ WHP!! WWW.TOPGUNSPEEDWORKS.COM

04-19-2016, 03:36 PM	#236 (permalink)
TopgunZ A True Z Fanatic Join Date: Jun 2012 Location: Minneapolis Posts: 2,651 Drives: 06 350Z , 09 370Z MT Rep Power: 6834	Lookin' Good Evan! That rubber spacer will be included with all future kits. TBatt and StillenZ84 like this. __________________ ROTREX SUPERCHARGER TUNER KITS - $6799/ CUSTOM STILLEN AIR TO AIR KITS -$2100/ 700+ WHP!! WWW.TOPGUNSPEEDWORKS.COM

04-19-2016, 04:05 PM	#237 (permalink)
Pauly Z Base Member Join Date: Apr 2014 Location: Sylvester, Ga. Posts: 197 Drives: '10 370Z 7AT Rep Power: 11	Where can I get one of those? Part number? I have been looking all over for something like that. Sent from my SM-N920V using Tapatalk __________________ Custom Air to Air Stillen SC Setup, CJM S-1S FRS, ID1000 Injectors, Aeromotive 340 Stealth Pump, Test Pipes, Topspeed Exhaust, Z1 Oil Pan Spacer, Swift Springs, Adjustable Rear Camber Arms, 20 and 25mm Spacers, Custom Gauges, and Ecutek

04-19-2016, 04:10 PM	#239 (permalink)
Pauly Z Base Member Join Date: Apr 2014 Location: Sylvester, Ga. Posts: 197 Drives: '10 370Z 7AT Rep Power: 11	Lol, really. I don't need a kit. I would have if it was out sooner. I'm getting the car tuned right now. But that's a whole other issue. Sent from my SM-N920V using Tapatalk __________________ Custom Air to Air Stillen SC Setup, CJM S-1S FRS, ID1000 Injectors, Aeromotive 340 Stealth Pump, Test Pipes, Topspeed Exhaust, Z1 Oil Pan Spacer, Swift Springs, Adjustable Rear Camber Arms, 20 and 25mm Spacers, Custom Gauges, and Ecutek

04-19-2016, 04:10 PM	#240 (permalink)
swiss370Z Track Member Join Date: Jun 2011 Location: In the Mountains Posts: 649 Drives: VW UP! 1.0 Ltr Rep Power: 15	Sorry for the "jump-in"! The Air-suction point is in a warm place! Do not you want to optimize the fresh intake air something? A pipe laying in the front region of the front, or in the left pane in the wheel! Where the fresh air is still cool! Just so my idea?! __________________ /// ONE LAST RIDE /// R.I.P. FAIRLADY Z ///

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