Nissan 370Z Forum  

Topgunz - air to air upgrade

Oh yeah I never thought of that. Thank you for asking this great question twice and contributing to the 370Z community. We all appreciate your help. Looks like you put

Go Back   Nissan 370Z Forum > Nissan 370Z Tech Area > Engine & Drivetrain > Forced Induction


Like Tree1908Likes

Reply
 
LinkBack Thread Tools Display Modes
Old 02-02-2016, 08:22 AM   #16 (permalink)
A True Z Fanatic
 
TopgunZ's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jun 2012
Location: Minneapolis
Posts: 2,651
Drives: 06 350Z , 09 370Z MT
Rep Power: 6834
TopgunZ has a reputation beyond reputeTopgunZ has a reputation beyond reputeTopgunZ has a reputation beyond reputeTopgunZ has a reputation beyond reputeTopgunZ has a reputation beyond reputeTopgunZ has a reputation beyond reputeTopgunZ has a reputation beyond reputeTopgunZ has a reputation beyond reputeTopgunZ has a reputation beyond reputeTopgunZ has a reputation beyond reputeTopgunZ has a reputation beyond repute
Default

Oh yeah I never thought of that. Thank you for asking this great question twice and contributing to the 370Z community. We all appreciate your help.

Looks like you put a Stillen kit on just a month ago. You will be asking for an upgrade when your 380whp gets old, which happens to all of us.

*EDIT* 01-20-17 Optimiser bought my kit a few months ago
diala4asian and cadoo like this.
__________________
ROTREX SUPERCHARGER TUNER KITS - $6799/ CUSTOM STILLEN AIR TO AIR KITS -$2100/ 700+ WHP!! WWW.TOPGUNSPEEDWORKS.COM

Last edited by TopgunZ; 01-20-2017 at 12:54 PM.
TopgunZ is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 02-02-2016, 09:28 AM   #17 (permalink)
Track Member
 
EVOHUNTER's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jul 2011
Location: Edmonton, Canada
Posts: 681
Drives: BOOSTED3-7-0
Rep Power: 15
EVOHUNTER is a jewel in the roughEVOHUNTER is a jewel in the roughEVOHUNTER is a jewel in the roughEVOHUNTER is a jewel in the rough
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by TopgunZ View Post
Oh yeah I never thought of that. Thank you for asking this great question twice and contributing to the 370Z community. We all appreciate your help.
hahahhah.
__________________
EVOHUNTER is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 02-02-2016, 05:23 PM   #18 (permalink)
Enthusiast Member
 
Optimiser's Avatar
 
Join Date: Mar 2013
Location: Australia
Posts: 455
Drives: 2012 Nissan 370Z MT
Rep Power: 20144
Optimiser has a reputation beyond reputeOptimiser has a reputation beyond reputeOptimiser has a reputation beyond reputeOptimiser has a reputation beyond reputeOptimiser has a reputation beyond reputeOptimiser has a reputation beyond reputeOptimiser has a reputation beyond reputeOptimiser has a reputation beyond reputeOptimiser has a reputation beyond reputeOptimiser has a reputation beyond reputeOptimiser has a reputation beyond repute
Default

I'm not greedy and will never want more HP than what I get now, it's more than enough. I'd rather leave things alone and have the thing stay reliable and not stuff around with it endlessly.
Optimiser is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 02-02-2016, 05:30 PM   #19 (permalink)
A True Z Fanatic
 
Chuck33079's Avatar
 
Join Date: Nov 2011
Location: Houston
Posts: 12,265
Drives: 2011 370ztt
Rep Power: 29538
Chuck33079 has a reputation beyond reputeChuck33079 has a reputation beyond reputeChuck33079 has a reputation beyond reputeChuck33079 has a reputation beyond reputeChuck33079 has a reputation beyond reputeChuck33079 has a reputation beyond reputeChuck33079 has a reputation beyond reputeChuck33079 has a reputation beyond reputeChuck33079 has a reputation beyond reputeChuck33079 has a reputation beyond reputeChuck33079 has a reputation beyond repute
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by Optimiser View Post
and have the thing stay reliable
Then you shouldn't have bought a Stillen kit.

A properly designed air to air setup will make the Stillen kit FAR, FAR more reliable. The off the shelf kit measures air temp pre-compressor. I'd bet folding money that's the reason the Stillen kit has blown more motors than turbo kits have. Switching to a blow-through MAF setup will eliminate the major risk factor with these kits - the ECU having no clue how hot the intake charge is.
__________________
2011 MB Touring-Sport-6sp-Nav/GTM TT/FI TT TDX/JTran/Kosmic/Eibach/Hotchkis/SPC/CSF/RPS/SoThatsWhereAllMyMoneyWent
Chuck33079 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 02-02-2016, 05:47 PM   #20 (permalink)
Track Member
 
EVOHUNTER's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jul 2011
Location: Edmonton, Canada
Posts: 681
Drives: BOOSTED3-7-0
Rep Power: 15
EVOHUNTER is a jewel in the roughEVOHUNTER is a jewel in the roughEVOHUNTER is a jewel in the roughEVOHUNTER is a jewel in the rough
Default

Even running the stock stillen kit is risky in my opinion.

After seeing swiss's data logging.

As chuck said, this kit spells disaster.
__________________
EVOHUNTER is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 02-02-2016, 05:48 PM   #21 (permalink)
A True Z Fanatic
 
Chuck33079's Avatar
 
Join Date: Nov 2011
Location: Houston
Posts: 12,265
Drives: 2011 370ztt
Rep Power: 29538
Chuck33079 has a reputation beyond reputeChuck33079 has a reputation beyond reputeChuck33079 has a reputation beyond reputeChuck33079 has a reputation beyond reputeChuck33079 has a reputation beyond reputeChuck33079 has a reputation beyond reputeChuck33079 has a reputation beyond reputeChuck33079 has a reputation beyond reputeChuck33079 has a reputation beyond reputeChuck33079 has a reputation beyond reputeChuck33079 has a reputation beyond repute
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by EVOHUNTER View Post
After seeing swiss's data logging.


The numbers he posted were terrifying. That kit is a time bomb the way they designed it.
__________________
2011 MB Touring-Sport-6sp-Nav/GTM TT/FI TT TDX/JTran/Kosmic/Eibach/Hotchkis/SPC/CSF/RPS/SoThatsWhereAllMyMoneyWent
Chuck33079 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 02-02-2016, 06:35 PM   #22 (permalink)
A True Z Fanatic
 
TopgunZ's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jun 2012
Location: Minneapolis
Posts: 2,651
Drives: 06 350Z , 09 370Z MT
Rep Power: 6834
TopgunZ has a reputation beyond reputeTopgunZ has a reputation beyond reputeTopgunZ has a reputation beyond reputeTopgunZ has a reputation beyond reputeTopgunZ has a reputation beyond reputeTopgunZ has a reputation beyond reputeTopgunZ has a reputation beyond reputeTopgunZ has a reputation beyond reputeTopgunZ has a reputation beyond reputeTopgunZ has a reputation beyond reputeTopgunZ has a reputation beyond repute
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by EVOHUNTER View Post
Even running the stock stillen kit is risky in my opinion.

After seeing swiss's data logging.

As chuck said, this kit spells disaster.
You mean is risky the way designed by stillen.
EVOHUNTER likes this.
__________________
ROTREX SUPERCHARGER TUNER KITS - $6799/ CUSTOM STILLEN AIR TO AIR KITS -$2100/ 700+ WHP!! WWW.TOPGUNSPEEDWORKS.COM
TopgunZ is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 02-02-2016, 06:40 PM   #23 (permalink)
A True Z Fanatic
 
JWillis72's Avatar
 
Join Date: Sep 2013
Location: Fort Myers FL
Posts: 2,002
Drives: 2009 370Z yellow 7AT
Rep Power: 45
JWillis72 has a reputation beyond reputeJWillis72 has a reputation beyond reputeJWillis72 has a reputation beyond reputeJWillis72 has a reputation beyond reputeJWillis72 has a reputation beyond reputeJWillis72 has a reputation beyond reputeJWillis72 has a reputation beyond reputeJWillis72 has a reputation beyond reputeJWillis72 has a reputation beyond reputeJWillis72 has a reputation beyond reputeJWillis72 has a reputation beyond repute
Default

I tracked mine for two years with no problems some how. Swiss has a 9 lb pulley I think but I would imagine my temps would have been close in the Florida heat.


Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk
JWillis72 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 02-02-2016, 11:37 PM   #24 (permalink)
Base Member
 
Join Date: Jun 2014
Location: Covington LA- NOLA
Posts: 108
Drives: 2013 370z base
Rep Power: 12
nvdave04 has much to be proud ofnvdave04 has much to be proud ofnvdave04 has much to be proud ofnvdave04 has much to be proud ofnvdave04 has much to be proud ofnvdave04 has much to be proud ofnvdave04 has much to be proud ofnvdave04 has much to be proud ofnvdave04 has much to be proud of
Default

I need this in my life ASAP !
__________________
2013 370z base brilliant silver - AT -stillen supercharger kit -upgraded impeller, csf radiator,GTR injectors, walboro fuel pump, berks HFC, AAM S-line midpipe AAM S-line axleback - Z1 34 row oil cooler -stillen trans cooler, custom UpRev tune avantgarde m310 wheels
nvdave04 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 02-03-2016, 01:04 AM   #25 (permalink)
Track Member
 
swiss370Z's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jun 2011
Location: In the Mountains
Posts: 649
Drives: VW UP! 1.0 Ltr
Rep Power: 15
swiss370Z is a jewel in the roughswiss370Z is a jewel in the roughswiss370Z is a jewel in the rough
Wink

Quote:
Originally Posted by JWillis72 View Post
I tracked mine for two years with no problems some how. Swiss has a 9 lb pulley
Same here for about 3 1/2 Years
(no DD, always just for fun, in the swiss Alps and on the fast lane )

+ 9 lb pulley
+ upgraded Impeller

11- 12 Psi on the stock engine (Too much for the OEM block with this Kit)

Why now only 9 Psi?

- Brian Crower Stroker Kit (4.08 Ltr and 10,5 :1 compression rate)

That will change in April
nomodsjk and ZontheRocks like this.
__________________
/// ONE LAST RIDE /// R.I.P. FAIRLADY Z ///
swiss370Z is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 02-03-2016, 01:15 AM   #26 (permalink)
Enthusiast Member
 
Optimiser's Avatar
 
Join Date: Mar 2013
Location: Australia
Posts: 455
Drives: 2012 Nissan 370Z MT
Rep Power: 20144
Optimiser has a reputation beyond reputeOptimiser has a reputation beyond reputeOptimiser has a reputation beyond reputeOptimiser has a reputation beyond reputeOptimiser has a reputation beyond reputeOptimiser has a reputation beyond reputeOptimiser has a reputation beyond reputeOptimiser has a reputation beyond reputeOptimiser has a reputation beyond reputeOptimiser has a reputation beyond reputeOptimiser has a reputation beyond repute
Default

I have already done a track day with the SC and no issues whatsoever.
Optimiser is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 02-03-2016, 07:01 AM   #27 (permalink)
A True Z Fanatic
 
TopgunZ's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jun 2012
Location: Minneapolis
Posts: 2,651
Drives: 06 350Z , 09 370Z MT
Rep Power: 6834
TopgunZ has a reputation beyond reputeTopgunZ has a reputation beyond reputeTopgunZ has a reputation beyond reputeTopgunZ has a reputation beyond reputeTopgunZ has a reputation beyond reputeTopgunZ has a reputation beyond reputeTopgunZ has a reputation beyond reputeTopgunZ has a reputation beyond reputeTopgunZ has a reputation beyond reputeTopgunZ has a reputation beyond reputeTopgunZ has a reputation beyond repute
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by Optimiser View Post
I have already done a track day with the SC and no issues whatsoever.
Have you missed reading any threads on this kit besides this one? It has been stated numerous times that the kit is fine at the power levels your making. Your on the 8psi pulley and im guessing the ultra safe stillen tune. That is what stillen designed this kit for. Now bump up just 1 more psi and you have to sign a waiver that it jeopardizes the kits reliability. They know the kit wasn't designed to make a bunch of power. But it can make great numbers with some better cooling and maf placement. No carb cert though.
__________________
ROTREX SUPERCHARGER TUNER KITS - $6799/ CUSTOM STILLEN AIR TO AIR KITS -$2100/ 700+ WHP!! WWW.TOPGUNSPEEDWORKS.COM

Last edited by TopgunZ; 02-03-2016 at 08:27 AM.
TopgunZ is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 02-03-2016, 09:23 AM   #28 (permalink)
Track Member
 
EVOHUNTER's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jul 2011
Location: Edmonton, Canada
Posts: 681
Drives: BOOSTED3-7-0
Rep Power: 15
EVOHUNTER is a jewel in the roughEVOHUNTER is a jewel in the roughEVOHUNTER is a jewel in the roughEVOHUNTER is a jewel in the rough
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by swiss370Z View Post
Same here for about 3 1/2 Years
(no DD, always just for fun, in the swiss Alps and on the fast lane )

+ 9 lb pulley
+ upgraded Impeller

11- 12 Psi on the stock engine (Too much for the OEM block with this Kit)

Why now only 9 Psi?

- Brian Crower Stroker Kit (4.08 Ltr and 10,5 :1 compression rate)

That will change in April

Its hard to say, maybe because of the lower compression on pistons?

But in theory your boost should be the same, now that I think about it.
__________________
EVOHUNTER is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 02-03-2016, 09:24 AM   #29 (permalink)
Track Member
 
EVOHUNTER's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jul 2011
Location: Edmonton, Canada
Posts: 681
Drives: BOOSTED3-7-0
Rep Power: 15
EVOHUNTER is a jewel in the roughEVOHUNTER is a jewel in the roughEVOHUNTER is a jewel in the roughEVOHUNTER is a jewel in the rough
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by TopgunZ View Post
You mean is risky the way designed by stillen.
Exactly. a2a is the only way.
__________________
EVOHUNTER is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 02-03-2016, 10:12 AM   #30 (permalink)
Track Member
 
TBatt's Avatar
 
Join Date: Apr 2013
Location: Huntsville, AL
Posts: 832
Drives: 2019 GT-R
Rep Power: 20168
TBatt has a reputation beyond reputeTBatt has a reputation beyond reputeTBatt has a reputation beyond reputeTBatt has a reputation beyond reputeTBatt has a reputation beyond reputeTBatt has a reputation beyond reputeTBatt has a reputation beyond reputeTBatt has a reputation beyond reputeTBatt has a reputation beyond reputeTBatt has a reputation beyond reputeTBatt has a reputation beyond repute
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by EVOHUNTER View Post
Exactly. a2a is the only way.
A2A may be the better way but it is not the only way.

Most all of the car makers that offer SC use a water cooled system. They offer the system as a highly developed off the shelf system. If you mod their system the warranty goes away.

I agree with you that a better solution for an open source tuning would be a2a but the stock system seems to be fine. The tune is another story.

I am planning on installing the Stillen kit in June, stock with the canned tune. As soon as it has been tested for leaks and any problems it will go to a tuner and get a proper tune. I have no plans on pushing the kit to higher boost. If I ever do, I will look into a complete solution, not just installing a 9 psi pulley. You have to do your homework if you are going to deviate from the designed system.

Thanks to all for your inputs. This is a great forum!!!!
ZontheRocks likes this.
__________________
RJM pedal, Hotchkis Sway Bars, FI TDX, FOG Light, Z1 Slotted Drilled rotors, Stillen SC, Quaife ATB, Z1 Oil cooler, AEM Gauge Set, Galeforce gauge mount, Avant Garde M590 Hypersilver w/RE-11, TopgunZ A2A kit., ECUtek tuned by Seb: ROLL TIDE!
TBatt is offline   Reply With Quote
Reply

Bookmarks


Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off
Trackbacks are On
Pingbacks are On
Refbacks are On


Similar Threads
Thread Thread Starter Forum Replies Last Post
Best upgrade/mod for 200-300$? louiey370z Engine & Drivetrain 10 06-10-2015 12:59 AM
Upgrade? Dzel Other Vehicles 83 03-08-2014 06:55 PM
Upgrade Darryl79 New Roadster 370Z Owner 7 08-23-2012 03:21 PM
Big 3 upgrade ??? dbkustomz Audio & Video 6 06-30-2012 08:00 AM


All times are GMT -5. The time now is 11:42 AM.


Powered by vBulletin® Version 3.8.4
Copyright ©2000 - 2024, Jelsoft Enterprises Ltd.
Search Engine Optimization by vBSEO 3.6.0 PL2