Topgunz - air to air upgrade

TopgunZ · 12-16-2016, 09:09 AM

There are 2 ways to remove it....

1. Take manifold off. Unbolt 4 bolts. Remove it. Reinstall manifold. (3/4 hour, if all goes well)
Will need tool provided for installation from Stillen or make own tool like i did.
or......
2. Unbolt 4 bolts. Pull out ic as far as possible. Tape off manifold area. Hack saw it off. Vacuum up any chips. (1/2 hour)

TopgunZ · 12-16-2016, 09:10 AM

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Originally Posted by TBatt

Well some of us do spend $$ on ourselves (that way we get exactly what we want). Just purchased a Henry 45-70 that I have wanted. It should be here next week in time to put under the tree.

You'll shoot your eye out!

(christmas story reference)

TBatt · 12-16-2016, 09:29 AM

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Originally Posted by TopgunZ

Christmas time. Nobody is spending money on themselves this time of year.

But Tax Return is just around the corner!!

Well some of us do spend $$ on ourselves (that way we get exactly what we want). Just purchased a Henry 45-70 that I have wanted. It should be here next week in time to put under the tree.

jwick · 12-16-2016, 01:27 PM

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Originally Posted by TBatt

Well some of us do spend $$ on ourselves (that way we get exactly what we want). Just purchased a Henry 45-70 that I have wanted. It should be here next week in time to put under the tree.

Henry is nice. I have a Marlin.

TBatt · 12-16-2016, 04:06 PM

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Originally Posted by ByThaBay

I'm in the process of ordering this. Is the removal of the manifold intercooler component fairly straight forward? Like others have mentioned, I want to avoid removing the manifold if possible.

Can I just pull the unit straight out?

Yes, but be aware that on the far end of the Stillen heat exchanger it is attached to the inside of the manifold with strong double sided tape. When you pull the heat exchanger out the tape will come apart and some of it could fall down into the intake runners. To prevent any junk from falling into the engine I would remove the rear throttle body and run a vacuum hose in it to the rear of the manifold (where the tape is) so that any tape that tears loose will get sucked up by the vacuum as the unit is being pulled out.

I removed mine prior to installing the manifold because I went with the A2A from the beginning. You will have to really pry on it but it will come out.

BOLIO 671 · 12-17-2016, 09:15 AM

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Originally Posted by TBatt

Yes, but be aware that on the far end of the Stillen heat exchanger it is attached to the inside of the manifold with strong double sided tape. When you pull the heat exchanger out the tape will come apart and some of it could fall down into the intake runners. To prevent any junk from falling into the engine I would remove the rear throttle body and run a vacuum hose in it to the rear of the manifold (where the tape is) so that any tape that tears loose will get sucked up by the vacuum as the unit is being pulled out.

I removed mine prior to installing the manifold because I went with the A2A from the beginning. You will have to really pry on it but it will come out.

Yes I just discovered this during our tear down. I went ahead and removed the black adhesive. Taking off the manifold is a PITA but it's really the best and safest way to take the internal heat exchanger to ensure that u get everything out and no components are actually left in there. I was blown away by how much space the internal intercooler took up in the manifold. With it removed there is a lot of room for air flow now....

Once ur pass the manifold removal everything else is a walk in the park. Gonna clean up my manifold before I proceed with the install. A2A kit should be complete in the next 2 days if anything.

ChaseZ · 12-17-2016, 11:05 AM

What are you guys using to make a block off plate on the manifold, 3/16" alum plate?

TopgunZ · 12-17-2016, 01:24 PM

Thought you were relocating mafs and running water setup.

ChaseZ · 12-17-2016, 01:36 PM

I am, was just curious.

Rest of my parts hopefully show up next week so can start on it soon.

milkcow500 · 12-17-2016, 01:43 PM

My god... No one knows the trouble I'm going through to get a damn spacer for my pulley. It's been past a month now and no luck. Build postponed until further notice

Optimiser · 12-18-2016, 05:06 PM

Hi all, I need some help urgently.
As part of my Air to Air upgrade I've had my shop replace the stock Stillen SC pulley with a 2.8" Vortech hi traction SC pulley but they say they can't adjust the stock Stillen serpentine belt to fit/work and can't find a suitable replacement one.
Do you have any suggestions?

TopgunZ · 12-18-2016, 05:17 PM

Get a 3" idler pulley.

Optimiser · 12-18-2016, 05:25 PM

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Originally Posted by TopgunZ

Get a 3" idler pulley.

Thankyou very much again TopZ.

My shop is looking into it now.

Optimiser · 12-18-2016, 09:12 PM

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Originally Posted by Optimiser

Thankyou very much again TopZ.

My shop is looking into it now.

My shop just tried a 3.0" idler and the serp belt still can't be adjusted tight enough. Any bigger than 3" will have interference. Is there anything else I can do beside having to go ditch the 2.8" SC pulley and going to a 3.0"?

TopgunZ · 12-18-2016, 09:26 PM

Need to go 3.0" on sc and 3.4" on jackshaft to keep that ratio and the same idler. Or 9psi serp side and one of the options above with the 3" idler, but that will spin it even faster.

12-16-2016, 09:09 AM	#1261 (permalink)
TopgunZ A True Z Fanatic Join Date: Jun 2012 Location: Minneapolis Posts: 2,651 Drives: 06 350Z , 09 370Z MT Rep Power: 6834	There are 2 ways to remove it.... 1. Take manifold off. Unbolt 4 bolts. Remove it. Reinstall manifold. (3/4 hour, if all goes well) Will need tool provided for installation from Stillen or make own tool like i did. or...... 2. Unbolt 4 bolts. Pull out ic as far as possible. Tape off manifold area. Hack saw it off. Vacuum up any chips. (1/2 hour) __________________ ROTREX SUPERCHARGER TUNER KITS - $6799/ CUSTOM STILLEN AIR TO AIR KITS -$2100/ 700+ WHP!! WWW.TOPGUNSPEEDWORKS.COM Last edited by TopgunZ; 12-16-2016 at 10:32 AM.

12-17-2016, 01:24 PM	#1268 (permalink)
TopgunZ A True Z Fanatic Join Date: Jun 2012 Location: Minneapolis Posts: 2,651 Drives: 06 350Z , 09 370Z MT Rep Power: 6834	Thought you were relocating mafs and running water setup. __________________ ROTREX SUPERCHARGER TUNER KITS - $6799/ CUSTOM STILLEN AIR TO AIR KITS -$2100/ 700+ WHP!! WWW.TOPGUNSPEEDWORKS.COM

12-18-2016, 05:17 PM	#1272 (permalink)
TopgunZ A True Z Fanatic Join Date: Jun 2012 Location: Minneapolis Posts: 2,651 Drives: 06 350Z , 09 370Z MT Rep Power: 6834	Get a 3" idler pulley. __________________ ROTREX SUPERCHARGER TUNER KITS - $6799/ CUSTOM STILLEN AIR TO AIR KITS -$2100/ 700+ WHP!! WWW.TOPGUNSPEEDWORKS.COM

12-18-2016, 09:26 PM	#1275 (permalink)
TopgunZ A True Z Fanatic Join Date: Jun 2012 Location: Minneapolis Posts: 2,651 Drives: 06 350Z , 09 370Z MT Rep Power: 6834	Need to go 3.0" on sc and 3.4" on jackshaft to keep that ratio and the same idler. Or 9psi serp side and one of the options above with the 3" idler, but that will spin it even faster. __________________ ROTREX SUPERCHARGER TUNER KITS - $6799/ CUSTOM STILLEN AIR TO AIR KITS -$2100/ 700+ WHP!! WWW.TOPGUNSPEEDWORKS.COM Last edited by TopgunZ; 12-18-2016 at 09:29 PM.

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