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Topgunz, I am considering purchasing your air to air setup and wanted to ask you is there any reason you can't leave the Stillen water to air parts on? I

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Old 06-27-2016, 02:26 AM   #1 (permalink)
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Topgunz,
I am considering purchasing your air to air setup and wanted to ask you is there any reason you can't leave the Stillen water to air parts on?
I mean leaving on the water radiator, the water pump for it and the manifold intercooler and just using it all with your kit instead of removing it. Maybe it might cool things even better?
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It would be in the way of the new intercooler, and would most likely make it run hotter. Also, weren't you the one claiming he'd never need more power and giving topgunz a ration of **** in this very thread?

EDIT - Yep, that was you. Throwing rocks at the guy trying to improve on the kit, and then doing a 180 and coming back to buy the upgrade? If I were him I'd tell you to go pound sand.

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TopgunZ, are you sure you're working all this out correctly and accurately?
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I'm not greedy and will never want more HP than what I get now, it's more than enough. I'd rather leave things alone and have the thing stay reliable and not stuff around with it endlessly.
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Lookout chuck is on his morning rant. I often get a kick out of listen to you keeping these guys in line, Keep up the good work buddy..
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Btw how is the old gtm kit holding up these days??



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It would be in the way of the new intercooler, and would most likely make it run hotter. Also, weren't you the one claiming he'd never need more power and giving topgunz a ration of **** in this very thread?

EDIT - Yep, that was you. Throwing rocks at the guy trying to improve on the kit, and then doing a 180 and coming back to buy the upgrade? If I were him I'd tell you to go pound sand.

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Btw how is the old gtm kit holding up these days??
Solid as a rock, but I'm always keeping my eyes out for a set of spare manifolds.
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Solid as a rock, but I'm always keeping my eyes out for a set of spare manifolds.
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Well, as Chuck said, you stated you want this thing to be as reliable as it can be. Why would you want to add complexity into the system then? Anytime you have more "stuff" on a car there is more stuff to maintain.

Go read the numerous threads on "My stillen water pump isnt working".

Do you want a big block of aluminum in your manifold doing nothing but blocking air flow and possibly, no more like probably, increasing the intake temps? The temps on the air to air are around 20* above ambient with zero heatsoak. All that aluminum plug is going to do is heatsoak and bring those intake temps back up.
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I may be able get you a pair, let me see what I can do.. Trying to get up with sam these days is Very hard...
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Top is VERY correct! The Stillen heat exchanger that goes in the intake manifold is very restrictive. When you hold it up to a light you can barely see through it. I was totally blown away at how much blockage the Stillen part has. I'll be glad to post a picture but you won't be able to see anything except aluminum.
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Well that clears that up and thank you for the answers.
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Just to close up the tach sensor idea, Matthew at AEM responded back with a great idea to get a tach signal for whatever you may need, in my case it is for the data logging AEM boost/afr gauge. MSD makes a sensor that can be used on a injector or coil pack lead. You do NOT have to cut or tap into the wire. It is an inductive sensor that simply clamps over the wire and detects the firing pulse and then re-creates a 12 volt pulse to drive a tach or data logger. Brilliant!

Mine is on the way!

I'm also going to post this over in the DIY section.

https://www.msdperformance.com/produ...ers/parts/8918

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I ended up tapping into my injector lead and the shift light on my innovate motorsports boost/shift light gauge works perfect. Just had to program the shift light in the gauge software to the 1 cylinder option for it function correct.

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Just to close up the tach sensor idea, Matthew at AEM responded back with a great idea to get a tach signal for whatever you may need, in my case it is for the data logging AEM boost/afr gauge. MSD makes a sensor that can be used on a injector or coil pack lead. You do NOT have to cut or tap into the wire. It is an inductive sensor that simply clamps over the wire and detects the firing pulse and then re-creates a 12 volt pulse to drive a tach or data logger. Brilliant!

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https://www.msdperformance.com/produ...ers/parts/8918

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Have any of the cars made it to the dyno?


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I haven't yet. Waiting on Seb.

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What diff gears you running JWillis72?

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