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EVOHUNTER 01-14-2016 08:33 AM

The A2A will be out this spring.

The stillen kit is good out of the box, going beyond stock is risky!

Jayhovah 01-14-2016 10:14 AM

In my layman's opinion:

#1 ditch the stillen kit, sell it and recoup some cash.
#2 Buy another stock motor, sell your fried blank canvas to someone going for big power to recoup some cash.
#3 Buy one of the following turbo kits:
BP Kit (Self install or far less expensive shop job)
Gamma V3 (More mechanically inclined self install or shop job)
FI or AAM (Even more mechanically inclined self install or shop job, Bigger hit to wallet for kit)
#4 Take the car (or even farm out the entire build) to a well known competent tuner that does Ecutek. JTRAN in houston is 4.5 hours away from you. Z1 in GA is only 6.5 hours away. If you can't get a base tune and drive it (or want to have them do the whole build), spend the $500-$1000 to have it transported there and then rent a car (or fly there) when its complete and drive it home knowing your tune is rock solid.

FYI I had JTRAN tune my car. Start to finish he did it in 4 hours and it feels like it came from the factory with 500+whp. He knows what he's doing.

I think these steps will get you to the most headache/hassle free 500-550whp. If you want more you can go E85 and/or build, but your wallet will need serious commitment and the stillen kit really stops making sense. Either way... ditch the stillen kit.

edit: Since your new motor is not going to be physically inside the car anyway, you can save a little on the install of an AAM or FI kit since they suggest pulling the motor for installation. BP and Gamma can be done without pulling the motor (with the BP kit being far easier to install).

nvdave04 01-16-2016 04:32 PM

Thank you all for the help. I decided I will be buying a used motor and bigger injectors and going to a better tuner switching to ecuteck.

JTRAN In Houston ?? Anybody got a contact for him ?

Also do you think 600cc injectors are big enough ? Or do I need bigger ?

I'll also will look into the air to air once a proven kit is out

Once again thank you all for the help during this difficult time

JWillis72 01-16-2016 04:41 PM

Go bigger, I think the Stillen ones are 600. I have 1000cc injectors in mine.


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PongSanity 01-16-2016 06:03 PM

750-1000cc. 600cc is like aftermarket GTR injectors.


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JWillis72 01-16-2016 06:10 PM

We have been talking about how to get his psi down from 10psi with his impeller. I believe the stock supercharger pulley is 3" but I don't have it here to check. If he used a 3 1/4" it should drop his psi to 7-8 I'm thinking, does that sound correct to you guys?


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jwick 01-16-2016 06:41 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by nvdave04 (Post 3389894)
Thank you all for the help. I decided I will be buying a used motor and bigger injectors and going to a better tuner switching to ecuteck.

JTRAN In Houston ?? Anybody got a contact for him ?

Also do you think 600cc injectors are big enough ? Or do I need bigger ?

I'll also will look into the air to air once a proven kit is out

Once again thank you all for the help during this difficult time


http://www.jtranstudio.com/contact-us.php

Call them and ask for Johnny or Amber.

I've also got a set of 750cc Bosch injectors if your interested PM me.

EVOHUNTER 01-16-2016 06:49 PM

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Originally Posted by JWillis72 (Post 3389942)
We have been talking about how to get his psi down from 10psi with his impeller. I believe the stock supercharger pulley is 3" but I don't have it here to check. If he used a 3 1/4" it should drop his psi to 7-8 I'm thinking, does that sound correct to you guys?


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Stock is 3.20" if i recall, put a 3.50" on there, should be good.

Jayhovah 01-16-2016 07:06 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by nvdave04 (Post 3389894)
Thank you all for the help. I decided I will be buying a used motor and bigger injectors and going to a better tuner switching to ecuteck.

JTRAN In Houston ?? Anybody got a contact for him ?

Also do you think 600cc injectors are big enough ? Or do I need bigger ?

I'll also will look into the air to air once a proven kit is out

Once again thank you all for the help during this difficult time

600cc might be small depending on your goals. If you're keeping the stillen kit as it was designed then you'll be fine. I'm running 600cc on my TT and they are small for my setup, but I'm limited to about 540whp because of them.

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nvdave04 01-16-2016 07:56 PM

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Originally Posted by jwick (Post 3389964)
JTRAN Motorsports :: Contact Us

Call them and ask for Johnny or Amber.

I've also got a set of 750cc Bosch injectors if your interested PM me.

Thanks I will call Monday. Pm sent about injectors as well

nvdave04 01-16-2016 07:57 PM

Ecuteck is the way to go right over Uprev ?

Jayhovah 01-16-2016 07:58 PM

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Originally Posted by nvdave04 (Post 3390014)
Ecuteck is the way to go right over Uprev ?

No brainer!

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nvdave04 01-16-2016 08:18 PM

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Originally Posted by Jayhovah (Post 3390018)
No brainer!

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Okay I'll make that switch to.

Optimiser 01-16-2016 08:19 PM

Why do you think Ecutek is better than Uprev?

jwick 01-16-2016 08:58 PM

Piston rings fried - stillen supercharger
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Optimiser (Post 3390038)
Why do you think Ecutek is better than Uprev?


Cuz Ecutek is true ECU control where UpRev is more like a hack. Not to mention Ecutek offers more stuff (boost by gear, launch control, traction control, true timing control, etc)


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