Some questions about going FI

Jinxx · 12-30-2015, 08:56 AM

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Originally Posted by BOLIO 671

You also will need a tune....else you will go KAPUT!

Yes ... Tuning is the critical part ... A bad tune will destroy any motor with even the best part installed ... Also a good wideband afr gauge .. Boost gauge .. That would be bare minimum for a turbo set.

ANMVQ · 12-30-2015, 09:26 AM

I dont know about the go "Stillen SC" post . yes they will be in the WHP range as the stillen will make 415 WHP or so on a custom tune. But ZERO room for growth( so far) we know that JWillis72 is trying to get his Air to Air straitened out. An the Stillen kit once modded is not reliable. We know I know

. If I could go back and reuse the 15k I spent I would have waited for a single turbo for the auto's.

An stated above it doesnt matter what your running make sure the tuner and tune is A+.

PongSanity · 12-30-2015, 02:32 PM

I said stillen sc because he only wants 450hp max with minimal bolt ons. So boost on a budget, sc to go for what he wants. Boost he'll spend way too much just for the tuner to pull a lot of timing to make it where he wants it.

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jwick · 12-30-2015, 02:43 PM

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Originally Posted by PongSanity

I said stillen sc because he only wants 450hp max with minimal bolt ons. So boost on a budget, sc to go for what he wants. Boost he'll spend way too much just for the tuner to pull a lot of timing to make it where he wants it.

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You wouldn't have to pull timing. Just run a lighter spring in the WG. I imagine I was running about 450whp on the half bar spring.

PongSanity · 12-30-2015, 07:23 PM

That works also.

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xnick101 · 01-01-2016, 08:35 PM

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Originally Posted by PongSanity

You better off getting the stillen supercharger OP. for the numbers you looking at and how conservative u tryna get. The stillen surcharger will provide that fun for u and you can keep your car as stock as you want.

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Supercharger makes its reliable and have linear power but I am not going to lie, I am in it for the turbo sounds and bov, etc. Not even interested in power gains as dumb as that sounds. LOL

Streetz · 01-02-2016, 06:30 PM

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Originally Posted by TopgunZ

And what might that be?

I was thinking the same thing lol.

Jinxx · 01-03-2016, 08:30 AM

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Originally Posted by xnick101

Supercharger makes its reliable and have linear power but I am not going to lie, I am in it for the turbo sounds and bov, etc. Not even interested in power gains as dumb as that sounds. LOL

I have ran both ....and I think the supercharger sounds way better than a turbo application . Louder bov sound and overall a more aggressive sound driving...... If you are comparing sound alone.

jwick · 01-03-2016, 12:24 PM

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Originally Posted by Jinxx

I have ran both ....and I think the supercharger sounds way better than a turbo application . Louder bov sound and overall a more aggressive sound driving...... If you are comparing sound alone.

I completely disagree and I think one ride in my completely catless turbo car and you would change your mind.

Jinxx · 01-03-2016, 01:33 PM

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Originally Posted by jwick

I completely disagree and I think one ride in my completely catless turbo car and you would change your mind.

I had a catless 350z with turbo and it didn't sound very loud ....normal turbo sounds with spool and bov ...and that was about 6 months ago

However it was a turbonetics single turbo and it had a lot of exhaust piping so that could have made the sounds mild .....I had a eclipse with a stage 5 turbo on it and it sounded like a jet engine much louder than the 350z sooooo idk lol .....but the gtm stage two kits is really nice sounding supercharger whine sounds awesome and the bypass valve is really loud ....sounds very aggressive.

TopgunZ · 01-03-2016, 02:44 PM

You would be surprised just how much that turbo acts as a muffler. When idle or cruising my turbo and sc were about the same. But open them up and my exhaust on my sc is stupid loud compared to what my turbo was.

jwick · 01-03-2016, 03:24 PM

I thought we were talking about which had better sound not which was louder. Two separate things completely.

TopgunZ · 01-03-2016, 04:50 PM

Oh. Turbo sounds better at WOT for sure. Sc wins at idle and light throttle. I've never personally heard a better sounding turbo than the bp kit wide open.

Jinxx · 01-03-2016, 05:47 PM

I guese from my perspective is idle...and light rev driving through a crowd or parking lots the supercharger is more noticeable ... In real world driving is much more often ... I mean even though we would all like it ....we can't be WOT all the time. Lol

jwick · 01-03-2016, 06:08 PM

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Originally Posted by TopgunZ

Oh. Turbo sounds better at WOT for sure. Sc wins at idle and light throttle. I've never personally heard a better sounding turbo than the bp kit wide open.

I'll agree with that. I also think the BP kit sounds better than SCer during unload.

12-30-2015, 09:26 AM	#32 (permalink)
ANMVQ A True Z Fanatic Join Date: Mar 2011 Location: Framingham MA Posts: 2,732 Drives: 2014 Q50 AWD Rep Power: 19	I dont know about the go "Stillen SC" post . yes they will be in the WHP range as the stillen will make 415 WHP or so on a custom tune. But ZERO room for growth( so far) we know that JWillis72 is trying to get his Air to Air straitened out. An the Stillen kit once modded is not reliable. We know I know . If I could go back and reuse the 15k I spent I would have waited for a single turbo for the auto's. An stated above it doesnt matter what your running make sure the tuner and tune is A+. __________________ 14 Q50 AWD, ARK, ECUTEK (SEB), Takda,

01-03-2016, 02:44 PM	#41 (permalink)
TopgunZ A True Z Fanatic Join Date: Jun 2012 Location: Minneapolis Posts: 2,651 Drives: 06 350Z , 09 370Z MT Rep Power: 6834	You would be surprised just how much that turbo acts as a muffler. When idle or cruising my turbo and sc were about the same. But open them up and my exhaust on my sc is stupid loud compared to what my turbo was. __________________ ROTREX SUPERCHARGER TUNER KITS - $6799/ CUSTOM STILLEN AIR TO AIR KITS -$2100/ 700+ WHP!! WWW.TOPGUNSPEEDWORKS.COM

01-03-2016, 03:24 PM	#42 (permalink)
jwick A True Z Fanatic Join Date: Dec 2010 Location: Houston Posts: 14,532 Drives: '10 G37 6MT Rep Power: 2465056	I thought we were talking about which had better sound not which was louder. Two separate things completely. __________________ '10 G37T 6MT Graphite/Graphite - BP - G37T Build

01-03-2016, 04:50 PM	#43 (permalink)
TopgunZ A True Z Fanatic Join Date: Jun 2012 Location: Minneapolis Posts: 2,651 Drives: 06 350Z , 09 370Z MT Rep Power: 6834	Oh. Turbo sounds better at WOT for sure. Sc wins at idle and light throttle. I've never personally heard a better sounding turbo than the bp kit wide open. jwick likes this. __________________ ROTREX SUPERCHARGER TUNER KITS - $6799/ CUSTOM STILLEN AIR TO AIR KITS -$2100/ 700+ WHP!! WWW.TOPGUNSPEEDWORKS.COM Last edited by TopgunZ; 01-03-2016 at 04:56 PM.

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12-30-2015, 02:32 PM	#33 (permalink)
PongSanity Enthusiast Member Join Date: Jul 2014 Location: Virgin Islands Posts: 261 Drives: '09 G37s KH3 6MT Rep Power: 11	I said stillen sc because he only wants 450hp max with minimal bolt ons. So boost on a budget, sc to go for what he wants. Boost he'll spend way too much just for the tuner to pull a lot of timing to make it where he wants it. Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk

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PongSanity Enthusiast Member Join Date: Jul 2014 Location: Virgin Islands Posts: 261 Drives: '09 G37s KH3 6MT Rep Power: 11	That works also. Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk

01-03-2016, 05:47 PM	#44 (permalink)
Jinxx Track Member Join Date: Dec 2015 Location: South Carolina Posts: 699 Drives: 2017 nismo 370z Rep Power: 3375	I guese from my perspective is idle...and light rev driving through a crowd or parking lots the supercharger is more noticeable ... In real world driving is much more often ... I mean even though we would all like it ....we can't be WOT all the time. Lol