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Guys, I got a SC'd 370z. 479hp to the wheels. Oil Cooler. Daily Driver. The issue is the oil temperature is under 180 most of my driving. It's 2 miles

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Old 12-15-2015, 03:58 PM   #1 (permalink)
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I got a SC'd 370z. 479hp to the wheels. Oil Cooler. Daily Driver.

The issue is the oil temperature is under 180 most of my driving. It's 2 miles to work. It's 4 miles to church. I barely ever do a long highway drive. So most of the time I'm under 180 degrees on the oil temp. Not only that but I tend to beat on the car on the way to work (because idiots in my way) but at that point im barely at 140.

I know which oil is highly subjective. But does anyone have any logical reasons why to choose one type of oil for my application over the OEM ester? Such as get a 0w weight instead of a 5w weight because my car is always cold?
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Id just stop beating on it when its cold. Not a good idea at all. If you want to have fun take the car for a real drive.
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What about ways to get it to warm up quicker? I could put a plate in front of the oil cooler and just remove it when I actually need cooling or something.
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What about ways to get it to warm up quicker? I could put a plate in front of the oil cooler and just remove it when I actually need cooling or something.
Yea you could do that however if you are only driving 2-4 miles and not letting the car warm up for a while before its still not going to come up to operating temperature.
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Only thing I can think of is Thermostatic plate.
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Only thing I can think of is Thermostatic plate.
This will yield the same results. The oil can only heat up so fast, a thermostatic plate will just eliminate having to put on or remove the blocker plate.
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This will yield the same results. The oil can only heat up so fast, thermostatic place will just eliminate having to put on or remove the blocker plate.
Yes but its less oil to heat which should be faster? It would only open up if the oil hits a set temp. Or at least that's how i thought it works.
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Yes but its less oil to heat which should be faster? It would only open up if the oil hits a set temp. Or at least that's how i thought it works.
Yea I am pretty sure how that works however its not that much extra oil. Don't think it would make that big of a difference compared to a block off plate.

Sounds like the OP needs a oil heater for his kind of driving.
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Mine takes about 10 minutes to get to operating temperature and I have a thermostatic sandwich plate. I don't spool the turbo or go above 3krpms until the car is at least 170-175.
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This will yield the same results. The oil can only heat up so fast, thermostatic place will just eliminate having to put on or remove the blocker plate.
A thermo-plate may help your situation but, as TerribleONE says, it takes a while for the oil to warm up. 2-4 miles just ain't far enough to get the engine warmed up good.

You don't have to baby a modern engine with modern oil when it's cold but you don't want to be going WOT until it warms up, either.
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Yes but its less oil to heat which should be faster? It would only open up if the oil hits a set temp. Or at least that's how i thought it works.
The difference in the amount of oil is not that important. The thermo-plate keeps most of the oil away from the heat exchanger until the oil warms up. This means there is less cooling going on until the thermo valve opens up.
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Add 20 degrees to the oil temp. The temp is taken after the oil cooler. I have been running at around 165F on the drive in to work on cold days. That would be 185 out of the motor. I don't worry about it. I run 5W30 synthetic.
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I don't see why you can't just let it warm up. I park mine in the garage and give it about 10 minutes of warm up time. I'm N/A and I stay below 4k RPMs until I get to 180* oil temp.
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Car needs a longer run to get it to operating temp. Figure at least 5-6 miles.

If temps never get above 180 DegF to make sure water/cr4p in the oil boils off.

Take the car for a 20 mile run once per week and your car will say "thank you"
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OP needs a Thermostatic plate if he can't get over 140F when it's in the mid 40s to 60s. I have no problems heating my NA oil up to 180. Winter time I still install a partial block off plate because the thermostatic plate doesn't completely, nor should it, close. I suppose you can install a complete block off plate till it gets hot out again.
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